What is Digg?69 Comments
- DarkEnder, on 10/12/2007, -12/+134I've been smoking painkiller for years...it's called weed.
- cam0man, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20you can't smoke vicodin....those drugs are full of fillers and the chemicals aren't even activated by the heat - in fact, they're destroyed.
You simply can't smoke most pills because they don't respond well, chemically, to the heat and you'd just be wasting you time.
I'm excited about this, currently the only instant action migraine meds on the market are sumatriptan injections and they sting like a mutha when you shoot them up because of the massive difference in their pH and the bodie's pH. We'll see how effective they are because the majority of migraine meds on the market that are nasal sprays/dissolving tablets don't work for *****. - jcaino, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19@kinged
you know, smoking weed only makes you a criminal if it is illegal where you live.
if he lives somewhere where it is legal or decriminalized, he is not a criminal.
go back to your hole - zttrx, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16As any pothead can tell you, vaporizing is not the same thing as smoking.
- Kickersny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12"216000 seconds is an hour. I guess that's still their definition of fast."
... 60 seconds * 60 minutes = 3600 seconds/hour ... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10....don't bogart that aspirin my friend.
- diktator279, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Wow, a cream that give you super powers! You'd think something like that you'd have to freebase.
- bobcrotch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Isn't this how crack was created? Bigger, faster high?
Hmm this sounds a lot more addictive than normal pills. - jmkiii, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Kinged
I hope those around you realize how shallow and unaccepting you are. Jailing someone for committing victim-less crimes(Smoking Weed) is utterly pointless, unless you just like paying taxes so that we can keep all of these people in jail for harming no one including themselves. - Siriquelle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@ jcaino
Spot on, - cr4ft, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6OK wait...so what happens to the people around that person (ie: second hand smoke) ?
- gronne, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@ricebergers
Some drugs like Oxycontin are time released and when you snort them you're getting a much bigger dose at once than is intended. At that you're basically doing heroine -- at least the risk of death and dependence are the same.
If you or "your friend" is grinding and snorting vicodin, you/he has got a pretty great chance of being a junkie if not one already. - LogicBomB, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Kinged - I bet you are the same ignorant type of person who thinks weed is the devil's drug while alcohol and tobacco are A-OK because someone, somewhere said "hmm... okay it's legal".
Are you even aware that "narcotics" is not a category of drug? It's a list of substances. If they were to make a list based on side effects or chemical composition, almost everything would be illigal.
Here's a fact for you - cigarettes are addictive, weed is not. Other than "because it always has been", why is the more dangerous drug the legal one? Also, alcohol related crimes and deaths are excrutiatingly high - weed crimes are almost 100% victimless. Either someone was growing it (gardening), smoking it (recreation), or selling it to a few friends (supply and demand). If the drug were to be legal, drug lords would be out of a job - no one sells legal substances on the street. It's not profitable. The people who want the drug to stay illigal are the same drug lords you say are a plague on society. Yet you want them to stay in business.
A vote against weed is a vote for drug lords. There is NO way around this. You are either supporting the problem or helping it. Making it illigal is NOT helping. - smackhero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4i'd hate to get head from that guy. i mean, that sucks man.
- WaterDragon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5If you smoke 'em, you'll feel better immediately!
(In teh ghetto, that is a phrase usually applied to politicians and lawyers!) - jmazzi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4CONTACT HIGH..err... RELIEF i mean.
- WaterDragon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@smackhero
"retards out there are already trying to smoke fentanyl patches and oxycontin."
And I bet they don't even remove the patches before lighting them.
--> flaming retards! Yaaay! - smackhero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3^good thing most of us in california smoke kind buds grown with hydros and not brickweed huh? maybe you should be more concerned about what it costs to get your daily cup of joe...
and snorting vicodin is utterly retarded. a normal vicodin has a 10:1 ratio of APAP to hydrocodone, not to mention all the binders and fillers. if you want it to kick in fast just do a cold-water extraction. - WaterDragon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I can just see the ads now.
"..So try new Winsome Super Ultra Mega Lights, the new cigarette that also relieves pain."
And how about a cigarette that includes a drug that fights lung cancer, heart disease, and shortness of breath? - kinesis8, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4When I was a kid, I refused to swallow pills out of the fear that they would be caught in my throat. This would've been handy then!
(I love being a bad influence) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5except the title SUCKS on that one.
- smackhero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3smoking OC is retarded. oxycodone is an opiate and is destroyed at high temperatures. plus burning the binders and fillers often creates toxic chemicals.
- mysophobic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@kinged
and if it were decriminalized? then i guess there wouldnt be all this smuggling, slavery, and government corruption you are thinking takes place. - vlurk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I found a solid source of information that contradict you in parts: http://drugandhealthinfo.org/page06.php?ID=311
"They believe that oral administration produces higher levels of 11-OH-THC, with slower elimination. Alternatively, they suggest that "consuming oral cannabis may produce more potent, yet unknown psychotomimetic metabolites of THC.""
Of course, more research needs to be done but at least it's a good beginning. At least, it goes into the same direction as my humble observations: last a lot longer and is still very potent. - 15charmaxwtf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2But people prefer to inject heroin than smoke it. And I think I've read injecting cocaine has a bigger effect than smoking crack. Also, if it is injected it goes directly into the blood stream, if its smoked then it has to go through the lungs.
- fantasticFlan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The jump from working in a matter of minutes to a matter of seconds is a huge improvement, ask any chronic migraine sufferer.
- scott28w, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2My friend can't swallow pills. It seems such an easy thing to do and yet he still chews nyquil capsules.
- FamousAnus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I've been saying that same thing for years to the medical marijuana advocates. If the medical marijuana crowd are so genuinely interested in real medicinal benefits, why don't they take the active ingredients and put them in an inhaler. That way you can measure and control the quality and dosage FAR more accurately.
- fantasticFlan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is a little different, it uses a heating element to vaporize the drug.
- vlurk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The active ingredient of marijuana is THC (Tétrahydrocannabinol), and it also works very welll if you ingest it. There's no need to make an inhaler for that purpose, really. It would be possible to extract it and manufacture pills that would have a precise amount of THC. But I think most pharmaceutical companies just don't want to invest into such a product because:
1- Cannabis can be grown easily and there is no drug to patent (THC isn't synthetic). You just have to find a good genetics for your plants, an efficient extraction method and the proper way to encapsulate the drug. After that, you conduct the required experimentations and that's it. Most probably, it would be very expensive for the first company to distribute and cheaper generic alternatives could appear almost instantly.
2- The market at this time is not that big and quite unstable. As more countries will legalize it for medical use and legislation is adapted, that could change however. - evilTak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"The company's lead product is a vaporized version of an old drug called prochlorperazine, which Alexza is developing for migraine headaches but is currently used in liquid, oral or suppository form to treat severe nausea."
- Stevethegreat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I don't think inhaling anything besides oxygen and nitrogen in your lungs would be good in the long term, that's why city's air is bad in the long term. I don't think evolution adjusted our lungs to anything except the two primary elements of the atmospheric air. Just my thoughts ......
- drmobutu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Do they say exactly which drug is inhaled? I read an article on this yesterday, and it didn't specify.
Here is what I am thinking: If the device uses regular opiate painkillers, it will probably have a pretty high abuse potential. - sikosmurf, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Asthma inhalers have been around for a long time. I guess they just realized you can put other medicine in there.
- EdgarCayce, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Although most pills are not smokable some are ie. Oxycontin.
- 15charmaxwtf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@kinged
Drugs being illegal is more socialist than drugs being legal. It is a central authority telling people how they should run their lives, this is exactly the deindividualisation which socialism is built on. - lokai, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Kratom isn't a bad smoke, either. Does wonders for pain.
- lucas448, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@gronne
my girlfriend does that ***** and im trying to get her to stop... she dont think its anything bad... untell she od-ed (please dont say anything bad/start ***** cuz shes 13) - C0MF0RTABLYnumb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hasn't anyone heard of a "dirty"?
- smackhero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1well, with benzodiazepines there does seem to be a correlation between onset time and how habit forming it is. but on the flip side, it's a myth that people who snort their heroin versus slamming it (or people who simply pop vicodins/percocets) don't get addicted as easily. it really makes no difference in my experience.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Sounds like a new inhaler that looks like a cigar, or a nebulizer for the posh...
"Yes... I'm toking on my daily revgenetics herb.... R900... it's resveratrol plus caffeine, with a bit of cranberry flavoring..." /sarcasm
So why not call it an inhaler? Probably trying to avoid the visions of little snot nose kids with asthma sucking from a tube they keep in their pocket... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I especially loved this part of the article (page 2):
"But Alexza's idea of heating up a drug to create a vapor, or smoke, is unique." - jmkiii, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Whoa, Kinged is no longer a valid user. I wonder what happened. Poor bigoted bastard.
- smackhero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1maybe he's referring to all the socialist countries which have decriminalize many recreational drugs and seen drastic reductions in crime rates and related social problems.
- smackhero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1smoking heroin is a huge waste because chasing the dragon is very inefficient, besides, as already mentioned opiates are sensitive to heat. and it's total ***** that smoking it gets it to your brain faster. you can't smoke it fast enough to produce a rush which is why people slam that *****.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I've been getting my drugs into my system at incredible speeds. And you don't even need to smoke it. I usually grind up advil and sniff it. Works brilliantly! Very effective and faster than just swallowing and letting your stomach acid to tace care of things. This way it gets into your blood streem 10x as fast.
- fety, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1smoke weeeeeeed. ahhh instant relief
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+10"fast" has to mean "within seconds."
216000 seconds is an hour. I guess that's still their definition of fast. - Innatech, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Smokable opiates have been around for a long time.
To wit: Opium.
Which "hit the street"a while back--as in centuries ago.
This sounds like medication delivered in aerosol for inhalation....but still, news how? - thirdeyeopen23, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i agree with DarkEnder, its pretty sad that pharmaceutical companies can make synthetic drugs with horrible side effects and a drug that is effective on pain and preferred by lots of cancer/aids patients is illegal. heaven forbid someone catch a little buzz and make them feel better, why not give them drugs that will kill them faster with deadlier side effects. Remember folks, its all in the name of profit.....
-
Show 51 - 69 of 69 discussions
© Digg Inc. 2009
— Content created and posted by Digg users is