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- mobialflow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+94Well, it doesn't work for people who refuse to exercise and go back to eating 4000 calories the day after their diet is over, expecting the wieght to magically stay off.
- fcekuahd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+73Yeah, exactly. People need to stop thinking of healthy eating as a 'diet' and start thinking of it as a lifestyle.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+31Said people usually throw down a pack of smokes on a daily basis as well, and are overly vocal about their 'new diet' while I'm trying to get my ***** work done in the office.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+25ya. obviously the "i will not eat bread forever" diets dont work. the only way to lose the weight its to eat correctly and get off ur ass and do some exercise
- Seventus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+24Exactly. Most people don't treat dieting as a lifestyle. Instead they want some temporary fix to their weight problem, and assume that going back to their old bad habits won't hurt them.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23I like the Macdonald's ad on the page showing their $1 breakfast menu
- Hermitwise, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21I weighed about 250 when I was 14 ( about 5'8 or so at the time) now I weigh 143 and I'm 6 foot. I didn't diet because I thought it was a stupid concept, temporarily altering the way you eat when you want to permanently lose weight, it's just illogical. I stopped eating as much and I started walking about 3 miles a day on a treadmill and I lost 100 or so in about a year. I don't have problems with food now because I never went on a diet, I decided I was going to stop eating the way that I was and not eat disgustingly bad food. I also drink nothing but water, which is something I highly recommend, when you drink water your stomach absorbs 68% of it within the first five minutes but when you drink anything else your stomach only absorbs about 5% because it has to break down the other stuff first.
- rasterbator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18UCLA researchers are trying to bring sexy back.
- LogicBomB, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11If you are overweight and/or need to get in shape, you need to realize that you can't just jump on the weight-loss program of choice for a few weeks or a few months and then be glad it's over with. If you hate it from day 1 and can't wait for it to be over, it will ALL come back.
For me personally I've found that simply cutting out late-evening snacking (which is sadly the best kind of snacking...), switching to diet sodas (Coke Zero rocks and you aquire the taste VERY quickly even if you hate it at first like I did), and integrating a simple exersise program (1/2 - 1 hr dumbell routine mon, wed, fri before work) is working wonders for me and has required very little change in my daily life.
You can't change your weight, you need to change your life and the weight follows. Don't try sticking with something until it works - pick someone you like from day 1 and just go with that, tweak as necessary. ANYTHING is better than nothing. - meetthescott, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9@topgun:
Good stuff. Try adding a 2-3 mile run into that, won't take more than 20 minutes itself after you've gotten into running shape, and it's great for cutting your upper body as well as toning your legs and improving your cardiopulmonary health. - DolphinGL, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9100% agree. You cannot effectively lose weight with ANY diet. Permanent weight loss requires a complete mental adjustment and a total permanent lifestyle change.
I lost 110 pounds and I'm to this day keeping it off. I've toned up as well. I didn't follow any diet. I reevaluated what I was putting in my body every day and changed my habits. Snack foods are a very occasional treat now, and I exercise 4 times a week. I'll never go back to my old eating habits.
Weight loss isn't something you do for a few months, it's a lifetime commitment. - maiku00, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12The notion of diet to lose weight is ridiculous. Want to lose weight? Stop eating like a ***** pig. Be aware of roughly how much calories you are taking in. Eat actual FOOD. You would be surprised how much healthy food you can eat without racking up a ton of calories. When you eat ***** like junk food/processed food, you can usually eat very little before you blow your calorie intake out of the water, and all those calories are empty and void of nutrition. And NOT just for a brief "diet" period and then revert back to eating garbage.
On top of not eating like Jabba, take 20 or 30 minutes out of the day to move around. Its not ***** hard.
Nobody has any excuse to be morbidly obese. - ddxChrist, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8That sounds like a loaded statement. Of course dieting works; it just doesn't work when you stop. If it wasn't magic in the first place, it isn't going to run on magic once you start chowing down again.
If your diet isn't going to last, neither are the benefits you obtained from choosing it.
At any rate, I think the word diet is fubar at this point. People seem to associate it with some short-term process where you essentially become anorexic, as opposed to a long-term lifestyle choice. - dmightx, on 09/21/2008, -1/+8This should be titled... "Dieting without exercise does not work, researchers report."
Btw no offense to overweight people and all but I hate seeing things like on the Tyra Banks show "embracing" the idea of being fat. Instead of saying that being fat is acceptable we should be trying to find ways to encourage people to get off that lifestyle.
I don't care when fat people feel bad because they are fat, (although unless its really not their fault) but most of the time it is their fault and I am talking from MY own personal experience.
I hate seeing people dieting without exercise it just gives them false temporary hope. Its really about DOING EXERCISE. Yes... I eat whatever the hell I want and I STILL lose weight. Its all about exercise... If you really want to look perfect then yes, exercise AND diet. - gungaroo22, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Just giving up pop helps so much.
I quit drinking pop in July, and have lost about 20 pounds doing nothing else to my diet.
No extra dieting or exercise, just cut pop.
That stuff is so bad for you.
Just one medium drink at McDonalds has 300+ calories, and that is if you DON'T get refills.
Diet pops are just as bad for you, some research has shown. Not through sugar and calories, but the other crap in it.
Drink water and tea. The first month SUCKS but after that, you will drop a bunch of weight and NEVER want to have a sip again. - Philodox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6That's not what the research was saying. The study says that people who diet are actually more likely to gain weight *relative to before they started* compared to people who just kept their regular lifestyle.
- kelbear, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Because DUH, they get off their diets. Don't get on a diet you can't do for the rest of your life. Letting go of what's keeping the weight off will obviously bring it back. Eat 2000 calories a day and work out 1.5 hours a day if you're fat. And you can only make that stricter not easier. If you think you're at a handicap that means you have to work harder than everyone else. Tough *****. Complaints will never help, only results. Cry on the treadmill because life is ***** hard.
If you don't like where you are, you have to earn what you want with blood, sweat, and tears because people would rather see you dead than fat. They may say otherwise, but they know it and you know it, and it's up to /you/ to do something about it. - joshpowell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5It's not dieting -- it's a dietary change.
And I've done the same thing. Lost 35lbs and counting since the beginning of the year. Watching what I eat and started exercising regularly. I look (and feel) sooooo much better. - florin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Dieting does not work, but dieting + exercise works wonders.
By the way, I wish people would stop talking about "weight loss" and start talking about "fat loss".
Losing weight may or may not be a good thing. Losing fat is almost always a very good thing.
The goal is not to "lose weight", but to reduce the body fat percentage.
A lot of people want to lose weight and waste a lot of muscle. That slows down the metabolism and their ability to burn calories. As a result, they bounce right back, perhaps at an even higher body fat percentage.
Contrary to common belief, the best exercise for sustained fat loss is not steady-state cardio. Done in excess, it tends to lower the metabolism - the body is smart and it would figure out that it needs to reduce the caloric expenditure to keep up with demand.
Instead, either some kind of interval training, or a mixture of running and weight lifting are much better.
Interval training: do a moderate run for like 2...4 minutes, then do a sprint for 30s. Repeat for 30...60 minutes total. Or do same thing on a bike.
There are many people who actually don't run at all, just keep diet under control and lift weights (I'm one of them) and stay at a very good 10-12% body fat. At that percentage you can clearly see the six-pack and even some of the bigger striations on the pectoral muscles. Drop at 8-9% and you start seeing all the striations on the delts, etc.
By the way, another myth that's as popular as it is false. It's not the fat in your food that's bad. It's the carbs. Especially the fast carbs (soda, potato chips, pastry). Slow carbs are OK in moderation (whole grain bread, etc.)
It's something that the general public is ignorant about, but the bodybuilders take it as a fundamental principle - you won't get fat because of how much fat you eat, but because of how many carbs.
OK, the total amount of calories matters too, but you get the idea.
So, bottom line, keep carbs under control, don't skip meals (do the opposite: eat several small meals instead of just a few big ones), eat protein with every meal, lift weights 2 or 3 times a week, do interval training when you're not lifting weights, and you'll stay at a very good looking 10% body fat while keeping enough lean muscle to stabilize your metabolism at a high enough level.
I wish I knew all these things 10 years ago. Live and learn, I guess. - toppgun, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10thatsmyalbo
I work out for about 20 minutes a day doing 100x pushups, 100x crunches and 40x curls. (started pushups and crunches 4 months ago, curls 1 month ago)
I have never been in better shape and it only takes me 20 minutes a day.
And I also run a little...
/probably screwing up my body from doing so many
//dont care because I'm starting to look jacked to the max. - bigtrouble77, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5So joelito, you kept your crappy diet, but added some mild excercising and portion control. That's a good start, but actually eating healthy, larger portions and working out more will significantly improve the quality of your life, imo.
- sinurgy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Diets in themselves are not necessarily bad. People just need to take them for what they are, a way to lose weight rather quickly. However, if you don't have a plan in place to transition from the diet into a healthy lifestyle of course you'll gain the weight back. This isn't because the diet didn't work, it's because you got off the diet and went back to doing the same thing you did to gain all the weight in the first place.
Diet = short term quick weight loss solution, it's not a sustainable way of eating
btw...want real results?
1) Go on a high protein diet (.9g protein/lbs of body weight)
2) Lift weights...FREE WEIGHTS...no machines
- Squats, Deadlifts, Bench; 1 per week; 3 sets and 5 reps
- Squats, Rows and Military Presses; 1 per week; 3 set and 5 reps
- Do not add weight until you have good form
- Once you have good form, increase weight each time while making sure you can still complete your 3x5 with good form
3) 30 minutes of cardio 3 times a week (treadmill is best as it uses your overweight status to your advantage)
4) Drink lots of water
5) Get 8 hours of sleep
You'll feel like a changed human in 3 months, I guarantee it!
You obviously are unlikely to stay on the above program longterm so plan on transitioning to a more normal lifestyle at some point. You can maintain your new body with much less work but be warned, if you just stop lifting, stop cardio and eat junk food you're old body will be back in a flash!!! - madcow11, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I see a lot of problems with *anyone* in our society that eats out on a regular basis to keep to a healthy lifestyle.
Between restaurant buffets and steakhouses that literally give you two pounds of food to eat in one setting (not to mention fast food restaurants with 1,800-calorie burgers), it becomes a part of our expectation and culture. Would the creator of McDonald's ever have envisioned a double or triple quarter-pounder? Crap, when the quarter pounder was introduced, it was advertised to *big guys* or a sandwich that you could cut in half and feed two.
most of you are right. What people call dieting today is really what they should be doing on a daily basis - it should become their lifestyle. But since so many people are eating out for one or more meals in a day, with our current cultural aspect on how much food we expect to get for $5, it will be a long time coming before we start becoming a healthier people. - jimmyjimmy05, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5A diet isn't technically just eating good for a few months to lose weight. Your diet is how you eat all the time. It's the food you actually consume. Like a vegetarian diet for example, means that someone only eats vegetables all the time. The problem with "dieting" is that people eat good for a short period of time and then gain weight back because they go back to eating the way that made them heavy. It's common sense.
- scispaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Eat half and use the rest for 2 lunches or a dinner. It ends up being a more reasonable number of calories and is cheaper. Is it really that hard?
- ben1sm4, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I did not plan on it, but I have started losing a little this year.
I haven't changed much, except maybe eating off one of my child's
plates instead of the big plates. I love to cook, so prepared or
fast food has never been a problem. The biggest thing I found is
a way for me to exercise. Being a gymnast for over 14 years really
put a toll on my body, I can no longer lay on the floor to do sit
ups. I bought an exercise ball, and frankly that is what has helped
to turn the weight around a little. I am no where near what I was in
high school, but at least my clothes are a little less snug. I will
continue to try to take more off, so far it has been fun, and I think
that is a major component. - aeoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Not only that, but fiber sticks to stuff that would normally be digested and takes it out of the body undigested.
- insomuchas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It's a hell of alot more complex than that.
You're not even factoring in waste.
Fiber for instance has calories but we cannot digest it so it is all excreted. - aeoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It is hard psychologically, because not everyone is used to bagging their food unfinished -- especially men.
So physically it's not hard. But you have to adjust your mind to do that. - w3rtx2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+31200?! WTF
- Yez70, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3LOL, Ironic with the Google Ads that are displayed - especially the URL for the 2nd one:
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FatLoss4idiots.com - mediaphile, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@toppgun:
if you're doing regular crunches, i'd recommend switching to bicycle crunches. regular crunches put strain on your neck and various other spots, and aren't nearly as efficient. bicycle crunches work your abs something like 250% percent better than regular crunches, and they work more areas of your abs at the same time.
also, what meetthescott said. some kind of cardio for 15-30 minutes is really worth it, and given the shape that you say you're already in, it shouldn't be a tough addition to make, besides the discipline necessary to make yourself run. - lucid270, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3dugg up for the comment about it being people's own faults (in most cases).
Exercise isn't everything though, it takes a long time to get the "furnace" effect where you can eat a lot and burn it off easily (and even then you're mentally aware of proper quantities, most overweight people couldn't judge that). I originally did my weight loss by altering my diet alone, its after the fact when I've been trying to lead a completely healthy lifestyle that I've added in exercise. - DigitalRambler, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Its simple to loose weight and keep it off
Eat less move more - skinjester, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Weight loss is as simple as falling down. Eat less & exercise more. Diets are stupid, because diet != lifestyle. The real problem is intentionality and confusion of short-term satisfaction with long term goals. Adding to the madness: feelings of thirst are often confused with hunger. Boredom too. I've found the easiest way to cut out random snacking is to get rid of the TV. Or rather, keep the hardware, get rid of the antenna, cable service, satellite or whatever.
- aeoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Nonsense.
Eat whatever you like minus the obviously bad food, like raw sugar or corn syrup or commercially processed burgers. Other than these few items you can really eat anything at all. Fat. Butter. Bacon. Avocados. Peanuts. Whatever.
The key is moderation! You eat to satisfy the hunger feeling and not to cause the stomach to feel full like a blown up balloon.
People lose their hunger pang very quickly. You can take a few bites and feel satisfied. But most people continue to eat well past that point until they feel a physical stretching sensation in the stomach. That's the main problem. It's basically overeating.
So enjoy all the foods you like, but in moderation. You don't need to be a genius to figure this out. You can even eat a bit of sugar and an occasional McDonald's, and that's OK too. - cybernezumi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Who said anything about sweetened tea? Tea is an excellent & healthy drink, just don't contaminate it with sweet stuff. If you don't like the taste straight, first learn to make it properly & try some other varieties.
- sigintop, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4The research isn't all that great because it makes that assumption that all weight gain is considered bad. If you eat healthy and exercise you'll drop pounds but you also might end up weighing more. Why? Because that muscle you're gain from strength training may increase your weight but it's replacing muscle with fat. As many people have probably mentioned before, a pound of muscle occupies less space than a pound of fat.
- florin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Careful with that "no exercise" thing. There's always the risk of your metabolism taking a plunge because of the low caloric intake and lack of exercise. When that happens, you can eat less than 1000 cal / day and you still won't lose fat. Yes, it's possible.
A balanced diet, no junk food, keep carbs under control, especially fast carbs (soda, potato chips, pastry) as low as possible, some slow carbs in moderation (whole grain bread), fat is OK no matter what the common myth tells you, eat protein with every meal, don't skip meals, eat several small meals instead of a few big ones - that's a good diet.
Combine it with exercise, any exercise, ideally some combination of weight lifting and interval training (slow running for 2...3 min then a 30 sec sprint, repeat) - that's the key to achieving and securing a low body fat percentage.
By the way, stop thinking in terms of "losing weight" and start thinking in terms of "reducing the body fat percentage". These are vastly different things.
Losing fat is almost always a good thing. Losing muscle is almost always a bad thing (unless you're a world-class bodybuilder in contest shape). - klosetkarbuff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2At the beginning of the year I decided that I was NOT going to try to lose weight this year.
That was my new year's resolution. Now, four months later, I have kept that no-diet
resolution and lost about 20 lbs. Why? Increased physical activity and micro-changes
in the way I eat. - tirofiban, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Isn't a diet eating in moderation? They say eating in moderation works, but dieting doesn't.
It would be nice if they defined the difference between dieting and eating in moderation in the beginning of the report.
Like many studies reported by the media, this one was poorly written. Sorry, I write clinical study reports that go to the FDA for a living. So this is a pet peeve of mine.
What's the point of doing a study, if you can't effectively explain the results to the general public? - EvilGnome, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I agree with everyone else. Losing the weight and keeping it off is easy once it becomes a lifestyle. I've lost nearly 25 lbs since December (200 down to 175) and I hardly had to think about it.
I drink lots of water. A glass of 100% fruit juice like OJ with breakfast, but other than that its water. Its amazing how good water is for your body. I just feel better. Also I'm trying to eat 5-6 "meals" a day. Breakfast, snack, Lunch, snack, Dinner. Don't eat within 2 hours of going to bed. Eat the right portion size. Even healthy food can be bad for you if you eat too much. I found an article about "superfoods." http://www.webmd.com/content/article/81/96952.htm Incorporating these seem to help. Plus they are delicious. I also try to shy away from a lot of premade/processed foods. Just look at the ingredients; I have no idea what they are. And preservatives. What do you think they do in your body? They get preserved of course. I think I could go on and on but I'll stop. It's really pretty simple. And I'm proof it works.
Oh one last thing. Don't eat anything with high fructose corn syrup. It has to be the worst thing for you. I'm a firm believer that corn is the biggest contributor to American obesity. - radu79, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I am one of those very few people that go to the gym to actually gain weight. I haven't been to the gym in one month, and lost 10 pounds :/ And the thing is, my belly is slightly bigger now.
- ronaldst, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2All diets work. It's you that's not working.
If you eat to be happy or be less bored then dieting isn't the step you need to take first. - LogicBomB, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Sinurgy is right - before I started doing any workouts I did some research (because I'm not an idiot and know I could ***** up pretty easily). Machines DO work, but they force the motion in 1 way meaning you don't get the stabalizer muscles built up properly. It's almost like you are sniping 1 muscle group while ignoring the others that would normally be worked out with free weights.
I'm not a nutrition expert and I don't have cited sources but I know common sense when I see it. - gostars, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Salient point:
"If dieting doesn't work, what does?
"Eating in moderation is a good idea for everybody, and so is regular exercise," Mann said. "That is not what we looked at in this study. Exercise may well be the key factor leading to sustained weight loss. Studies consistently find that people who reported the most exercise also had the most weight loss."
...in other words "Dieting doesn't work, and, uh, we didn't bother studying people who did it right."
Sincerely,
digger who lost 45 pounds over the last year and is still going. I'm not dieting. I've permenantly changed my lifestyle. And I've never eaten so much damn food in my life. Go here for more info (no, this is not a sales thing)
http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/7habits.htm
PS: I even right before bed. Ha! Yep, no kidding.... But my bedtime meal contains certain planned ingredients...not just anything. - mediaphile, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@dwight:
dieting in the context of the article is defined as an altered selection of food, usually extremely selective and prohibitive. doing it that way is unrealistic.
i think what hermitwise did was to really just reduce the quantity of food he consumed, and maybe make slightly healthier choices about the food he ate. this isn't hard to do, and once your stomach gets used to consistently consuming much smaller portions, you'll find it's actually difficult to eat as much as before, which is how our stomachs are supposed to act as a natural limiter of how much food we consume. it's only through consistent abuse that we stretch our stomachs out to unnecessary proportions, allowing us to eat as much as restaurants and fast food places seem to think we should eat. so it's only through consistent reduction of the portions of food that we can go back down to a normal, healthy level, which in turn will return us to a healthy weight. i wouldn't call this a diet, i'd call it normal. - Lean, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3First off, UCLA researchers are apparently idiots...
Secondly, an hour in the gym every-other day IS NOT hard at all
about a month ago I started upping my protein intake, which means, instead of eating donuts for breakfast, eating eggs and having a glass of milk and having every meal in a similar fashion.
You just have to cut the junk out of the equation and substitute it with real fuel.
My workout program is really simple, Bench press, Deadlift, and the Squat, and I run for 20 minutes on my non-lifting days.
I was so suprised how easy it was even after reading about how I would have to count calories and grams of protein etc. etc. but in a month my bodyfat has gone from 18% to 15%, which is pretty substantial for me - florin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@ Lean
Thumbs up! It's amazing how many people are not aware of these simple truths.
Drastically reduce or even eliminate fast carbs (soda, potato chips).
Keep slow carbs under control (whole grain bread).
Don't pay attention to the fat in your food, no matter what the common myth says.
Eat protein with every meal.
Eat more carbs in the morning and before/during/after exercise. Eat more fat in the evening.
Don't skip meals, rather add more meals and make them smaller, instead of just a few big ones (total per day stays the same).
Lift weights.
If you wanna do "cardio", fine, but don't do steady-state cardio. Do interval training instead (2...3 minutes slow running/biking, then a 30 sec sprint. Repeat for 30...60 minutes).
Voila. Instant fat loss. - SteelChicken, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3the 45lbs ive lost since august would like to tell those "edumacated" wankers they are full of crap.
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