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- ryanonfire, on 11/07/2009, -4/+288* Cannabis fatality figures highly questionable
- yocouchdigga, on 11/06/2009, -43/+222How does marijuana have any deaths associated with it, was the x pure?? This infographic complete *****.
- veins, on 11/07/2009, -1/+144http://rorr.im/digg.com/health/deadliest_drugs_dea ...
- thelastcivilian, on 11/07/2009, -3/+102He's taking government data. The government is lying.
- Subcrtical, on 11/06/2009, -10/+104Yeah, I don't understand what this is trying to say... How can there be more reports than deaths? Are they saying that the media just made ***** up? Not to mention, I have never seen a report or article claiming a death from marijuana, let alone almost 100 of them in the last year.
- smashblu, on 11/06/2009, -11/+105Hey, hey, hey, smoke weed every day.
- jordantneff, on 11/07/2009, -1/+83I'm assuming that it means an indirect cause, possibly not paying attention while driving high and dying in a car crash. A decent amount of the alcohol related deaths are probably the same.
- thelastcivilian, on 11/07/2009, -2/+77Follow the asterisk and read the fine print: *Cannabis fatality figures highly questionnable [sic]
It's also worth reading the accompanying article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2009/nov/0 ... where McCandless points out that "the government's own figures don't tally." - appleseed1234, on 11/07/2009, -5/+76It's physically impossible to die from cannabis alone, and I think the same is true for pure e. What ever happened to accuracy?
- jmritchie, on 11/10/2009, -17/+88I love drugs
- newman8r, on 11/07/2009, -0/+37it does say from poisoning... and yeah that's pretty much impossible with cannabis
- gutistg, on 11/07/2009, -1/+37Mmmkay.
- adamsteinberg, on 11/07/2009, -2/+37Pure E can kill you from hyponatremia, rhabdomyolysis, hyperthermia, hypovolemia, hypocalcemia, hyperkalemia, serotonin syndrome, etc. But only in rare instances.
- TitBoxMalone, on 11/07/2009, -7/+41"cannabis is no more harmful than alcohol."- Yeah alcohol is much more damaging in every single way. Buried.
http://drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/30
This is from the people that are "against" drugs. - yocouchdigga, on 11/06/2009, -1/+34Drugs are good.
- Rain12913, on 11/07/2009, -5/+36You're funny.
Your drinking doesn't damage my liver, it just kills me. Go look up how many people have been killed as a result of other people's alcohol consumption in the US, then look up how many people have been killed as a result of other people's marijuana consumption.
Try to think things through a bit more before you open the old pie hole and make yourself seem ignorant. - bencanfield, on 11/07/2009, -0/+30It's press reports, not pressed death reports.
- MacBookForMe, on 11/06/2009, -2/+30I want to see the infographic on Drugs vs. Waking Up In An Alley With Your Ass Bleeding....now that's news!
- thetruckert, on 11/06/2009, -19/+44* cannabis fatality figures highly questionable \
So pretty much you're lying? - Rain12913, on 11/07/2009, -3/+26"First of all, I don't care about road accident statistics in the USA, because I don't live in the USA. The world does not end with you."
This is an American site with a predominately American user base, you complete ignoramus. Besides, you know that the statistics would be similar in whatever insignificant country you're from. (That was a joke)
"Secondly, you ***** RETARD, those are ACCIDENTS that do not happen unless people follow their drinking with irresponsible behavior."
Does calling me names in capital letters make you feel better? I hope so, because it sure doesn't make you sound any more credible. Your argument would be valid if it weren't for one thing: irresponsible behavior is a direct effect of alcohol consumption. That's right, Alcohol is a GABAa agonist, and therefore behavioral disinhibition is an inevitable result of alcohol intoxication, so by consuming alcohol you're putting anyone who's around you at risk. The statistics document this well.
"When you smoke, you are hurting anybody around you NO MATTER WHAT, as a GIVEN."
First, please provide me with some conclusive evidence that second-hand Marijuana smoke is harmful. Second, I don't smoke marijuana, I vaporize it, and therefore put nobody, including myself, at risk of anything. Third, even if I did smoke it, I wouldn't smoke it in the presence of people who didn't want to also partake in the activity. You deny that drunk driving should be taken into consideration in the case of alcohol because it includes poor decision making, so then why should the poor decision making involved in smoking around other people be considered an inherent aspect of marijuana usage?
I suggest you stay at home next time, I don't want to have to embarrass you again. - danro, on 11/07/2009, -0/+20Yes, they found cannabinoids in the autopsy. But it was not the cause of his death. That's like saying if I died of a heart attack tomorrow I died of eating chicken noodle soup, since it was found in my stomach.
- eqisow, on 11/07/2009, -1/+21It's not "impossible," the L.D. 50 is just ridiculously high.
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/LIBRARY/mj_ove ...
OK, so you'd have to be taking a very pure concentrated form of THC, but still... and you could always die from smoke inhalation from burning a large pile of it. :p
it seems that the L.D. 50 for Ecstasy is a bit lower:
http://books.google.com/books?id=CUCcyklcO00C& ... - gaymathman, on 11/07/2009, -0/+19You know, it would be rather handy if digg would just include a link to the rorr.im mirror when somebody submits an article, or at least when an article is determined to be popular by their algorithms. Every time somebody posts a link to a mirror, it becomes one of the most popular comments, but people have to scroll down to find it.
- novenator, on 11/07/2009, -1/+20I dont like the drugs, but they sure like me.
- TheNyquilKid, on 11/07/2009, -0/+18The deaths listed for cannabis are "secondary causes". Meaning it wasn't what caused the death but it was present in the system and may have contributed in some way. Example being someone died from a crash or if someone died of alcohol poisoning but thc was found too.
In thousands of years there has never been one death confirmed to be caused by cannabis. - nmanguy, on 11/07/2009, -3/+19Number of deaths is utterly irrelevant if you can't figure out how many. I could say that nuclear explosions that have gone off in the US are less deadly, since nobody got hit by one in the US, while I could say sleeping in the UK is very deadly since many people die during it.
Having the actual percent rates are a lot better, because if nearly nine hundred people died from ecstasy like they said, and only 5/10/25 thousand people used it, that's a pretty damn high chance of dying. But if a million people participated in horseback riding and 900 people died, that's still too many deaths, but it's statistically less dangerous.
Hell, if I started only using the data I wanted, ignored the rest, and forgot about "math", I'd sure-as-hell get offered a job at MSNBC. - SuicideMouse, on 11/07/2009, -1/+16They are, I would assume they are covered under the Alcohol deaths.
- Dinsdale77, on 11/07/2009, -0/+15That article actually expounded on the marijuana deaths that have been listed in the UK. Apparently death was actually caused by inhalation of vomit, aka someone was drinking and smoking hella blunts at the same time and got wayy too ***** up. Death from THC? nope.
- lolwatermelon, on 11/07/2009, -0/+15The amount of coverage of the deaths because of different drugs, vs the amount of actual deaths.
They're probably counting mentions of an intoxicated driver being high or someone smoking pot before committing a crime. - kap77, on 11/07/2009, -1/+15This man speaks the truth. Claiming that Ecstasy killed x number of people is not accurate because Ecstasy pills are notoriously impure.
http://www.ecstasydata.org/
Look at all that garbage inside. Example:
MDMA
Caffeine
Ketamine
Methamphetamine
Methylsulfonylmethane
Procaine
Just one more reason legalization, regulation, and taxation is the proper way to approach the situation. No more pills with 6 different drugs in them. - bobburn1, on 11/07/2009, -1/+15I know. In the UK they're trying to claim this "new" strain called "skunk" (I.E. the ***** that first came out in the early 80s) is causing schizophrenia, psychosis, murderous rampages, prostitution, and, according to a scottish documentary on BBC "Hash in the Attic", it causes SLAVERY. Yes, Marijuana is the number one cause of slavery in the UK....wait..slavery? YES THEY ***** CLAIM SLAVERY IS CAUSED BY MARIJUANA.
- Outofthenight, on 11/07/2009, -1/+14gaymathman - "We need to know the number of people who use the drug and don't die to conclude anything about its lethality."
You would be right if the article were about that. The article is clearly about how some drugs are disproportionately under or over-reported by the media. - viv4l4b4m03, on 11/07/2009, -0/+13no jenkem?
- oderdigg, on 11/07/2009, -0/+13I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to too.
- ThatNeilDude, on 11/07/2009, -0/+13Too much water screws with the electrical signals in your brain and you eventually kick over. Seriously dude, I've tried my damnedest to OD on reefer. You just fall asleep, no matter how many cookies you eat.
"According to the Merck Index, 12th edition, THC has a LD50 (dose killing half of the research subjects) value of 1270 mg/kg (male rats) and 730 mg/kg (female rats) administered orally dissolved in sesame oil. The LD50 value for rats by inhalation of THC is 42 mg/kg of body weight. One estimate of Cannabis's LD50 for humans indicates that about 1500 pounds (680 kilograms) of Cannabis would have to be smoked within 15 minutes."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahydrocannabinol# ... - ak666jk, on 11/07/2009, -0/+13Hey, at least there's proper coverage on the risks of aspirin!
- NaturalCauzes, on 11/07/2009, -0/+11I GET IT. WEED ISNT FATAL. MAIL YOUR ***** SENATOR OR SOMETHING. I'm all for""legalizing it", but Digg's frontpage is the last place people need convincing.
P.S. % deaths reported over 100? So there's reports for deaths that didn't happen? Or is there some sort of grammatical/semantic error? Am I too high? - rotundo, on 11/07/2009, -0/+11Why does that make it complete *****? You don't think drunk driving accidents should be counted as alcohol related deaths, for example?
- firebhaal, on 11/07/2009, -6/+17That's what happens when you cite the daily mail as a source
- rancemo, on 11/07/2009, -0/+10If chicken noodle soup was prohibited, and government had a vested interest in keeping it prohibited, they probably would list it as a contributing factor of your death.
- LostRiot, on 11/07/2009, -0/+10This kind of comment would never have happened if this had linked to the original article which also has a "deaths per 10,000" a far more interesting diagram imo and also would allow you to read the authors original text which reads
"The cannabis death's figure is a bit dubious in my opinion. Firstly, how can you die from cannabis? It's extremely non-toxic. There has never been a single documented case of fatal cannabis overdose. Also, the government's own figures don't tally. While drug figures from the Office Of National Statistics register 19 cannabis related deaths, the mortality stats from the same office log only 1 death."
He also points out that
"Paracetamol deaths may be squewed a bit by the fact that's it a very common method of suicide." - uncleosbert, on 11/07/2009, -1/+11"We need to know the number of people who use the drug and don't die to conclude anything about its lethality."
good luck getting accurate statistics on illegal behavior! - twiztidsinz, on 11/07/2009, -1/+11@fmaxwell: Wow... way to throw around labels, douche.
- TheAbsintheHare, on 11/07/2009, -1/+11Horse riding is less safe than ecstasy if you do the ecstasy in an intelligent way... most people don't. (ie: Five pills every weekend or every other weekend is not intelligent, once every three to four months to allow serotonin levels to recuperate is.)
- j0phus, on 11/07/2009, -0/+9The information on pot coming out the uk always seems to be slightly biased. Which is weird because I would think it would be worse here (US).
- ltchimpo, on 11/07/2009, -0/+9What is a ***** ton of weed fell on you, man. That'd be like cool and uncool.
- nilhilustfreder, on 11/07/2009, -0/+9I doubt it.
As for his source, I pretty much guarantee that's copied and pasted from wikipedia. - EdgeHead022, on 11/07/2009, -0/+9"you can actually die of a heart attack"
Not Cannabis. - ltchimpo, on 11/07/2009, -0/+9Didn't Smokey almost get killed because he owed Big Worm $250?
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