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- MrGLight, on 03/20/2009, -1/+15I asked my friend about this (who is an EHS Professional) and this is what she said:
"I heard this on the radio last week and it reminded me that workers always seemed to be the ones to get the blame … when the root cause is poor management systems that don’t provide adequate training, materials and supervision to the workers. Human nature is to take the path of least resistance. Management has the responsibility to create a work environment that provides the correct equipment, mandates the use of the proper equipment (using the appropriate methods), while training the workers so they have a "religious” dedication to using the correct equipment the right way!" - classhelper, on 03/20/2009, -0/+10Somewhere along the line, a cascading series of human failures lead to all accidents. I'm certain there's plenty of blame to go around.
- amabaie, on 03/21/2009, -0/+6Certainly when their own safety could be at risk, a "religious” dedication to using the correct equipment the right way isn't too much to ask.
- inactive, on 03/21/2009, -0/+6Well said. I don't presume that a pilot will fly me from point A to point B safely because he's a good employee...I expect that he'll do it because he doesn't want to die.
- eco57, on 03/20/2009, -0/+5So whose responsibility is it to see proper rules and procedures are routinely followed?
- Calamier, on 03/21/2009, -0/+3Classhelper is pretty much right, they say that this is the fault of the workers but there is plenty of blame to go around, if the contractor had an on site safety manager who did his job correctly, this kind of thing can be avoided. I work for an EHS company (www.safetyservicescompany.com/blog)
- DontGiveADamn, on 03/21/2009, -0/+3Where I work we violate all the safety rules. Why, because management doesn't care. It will take somebody being injured or killed and the lawsuit that follows to make management care. I know how people love to hate lawyers but the threat of a lawsuit is the only thing that keeps many companies honest.
- inactive, on 03/22/2009, -0/+2Its the same reason that we will always disagree if some article says "Black people are XXXX"
The universe just does not work this way. No race or group is made of 100% identical people. We know this.
Similarly, no mistake is made solo. There is a group of people who could have and should have stopped it.
That is why we complain. We hate to see reality butchered by sensationalist writers. - opticwind, on 03/21/2009, -4/+6Why is it that with digg, whenever a commission says *The blame is here*, we assume it's wrong no matter what.
You know what? It probably WAS the workers's fault. - bemenaker, on 03/22/2009, -0/+2DUH!!!
- itslifeasusual, on 03/21/2009, -0/+1The sub contractor that erected the crane is liable, but the General Contractor also shares liability and the responsibility of keeping the jobsite safe.
- wkenri, on 03/21/2009, -0/+1The next time they'll learn the importance of having the instructions in both english and spanish.
- bemenaker, on 03/22/2009, -0/+1LAME!!!!!
- inactive, on 03/21/2009, -1/+1a "religious” dedication to using the correct equipment the right way isn't too much to ask.
- SaladCactusKing, on 03/21/2009, -2/+2THERE ARE NO ACCIDENTS.
PREVENTIT.CA
RAWR! - roland, on 03/21/2009, -0/+0Workers who actually rig up the gear and operate the machines dont care if they have they have the right tool for the job. They are there to get paid, in order to do that they need to perform the work that was given to them with the tools supplied for the job. Supervisors care about getting the job done on or under budget, if your approach them saying this wont work, we will have to stop everything untill such replacement part arrives, he will freak out and tell you to just get it done. Either use faulty equipment, or undersized equipment, or stand your ground and let some other worker complete the job while you stand on the sidelines and watch. When you go to your safety department assuming thats its not already your direct supervisor, he will ask your supervisor and the other worker if they did the job safely. Their response will determine your future at that company as a wise safety minded ideal employee or a problem child. Assuming it gets that far beacause "Its 3 o'clock, i'm already behind because of that guy, yes we did it safely, sometimes we have to make adjustments and with experiance you can come to learn what is safe."
- guinpen, on 03/21/2009, -2/+2Not enough info, suspending judgement riiiiight.. now!
- Kruse, on 03/21/2009, -3/+3Ok?
- inactive, on 03/24/2009, -1/+1come in my site:
http://travel-lets-go.blogspot.com/ - malanic, on 03/21/2009, -2/+1Perhaps, but you can't jump to conclusions without evidence. Certainly this article doesn't provide any evidence against the workers, but it's not often that you'd find a worker who would accept blame when he could just as easily blame it on management or poor training.
Some people are less attentive than others, or they may be distracted by personal problems, or there may be a myriad of other reasons why a worker should take responsibility for his own mistakes. If you had to apply to the lowest common denominator, then you'd have to provide a supervisor for every worker, watching every nut and bolt that was tightened, and of course this would be prohibitively counter-productive.
You'll never reduce the road toll to zero, and you'll never reduce construction fatalities to zero. It can be a dangerous game. I know because I was in it myself. Lets just hope, regardless of who was to blame, that if there was some practical way of avoiding this accident, then hopefully some lessons were learnt, and solutions applied. - TGothe, on 03/21/2009, -4/+2If Bush had spent more on training this would have never happened.
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