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- das7282, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16This is a misleading title. The vaccine DOES NOT prevent cervical cancer, it prevents HPV (or in lay men's terms, genital warts) which is the leading cause of cervical cancer!
This misleading way of describing this new vaccine is reported everywhere and I think people should understand that the chances of getting cervical cancer are greatly reduced by the vaccine (because it eliminates the leading cause of the cancer) but this vaccine does not completely eliminate the cancer itself. Women can still get cervical cancer after getting this vaccine. - clickwir, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Ok, good. Glad to hear that so many can be helped. Now how about people that already have the virus?
- eean, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Um, breast cancer isn't caused by a virus szelij.
- smurfmaster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9In the last sentence the article said that many conservative groups support the vaccine, so they're not all idiots. What really gets me though is that religious fundamentalists who want everyone to stay virgins until marriage even get a voice in this country when it comes to health related issues. Health and ideology don't mix.
- wheremyarm, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10"Yet religious people tend to live longer, healthier lives."
And atheists are immune to all forms of cancer and can fly through the night's sky using super atheist-powers!
I can pull stuff out of my ass without evidence too, am I cool now? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5A very high percentage of adults have HPV, actually... Something like 70% - 80%
- iceperson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"Excellent. But when will we get a vaccine for breast cancer? That's the leading cause of death in women afaik."
all cancers combined don't kill as many women as heart disease.
http://www.cdc.gov/women/lcod.htm - eean, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Actually there is like >100 strains of HPV and this is a vaccine for the ~4, 2 that cause cancer and 2 that cause warts (the latter to encourage men to take it, which will be necessary if we ever want to stamp out HPV for good). I've never heard of HPV going away, I thought all the strains stayed with you for life.
- wheremyarm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5It SHOULD be mandatory, just like all the other vaccines you have to get as a kid to go to school.
- wheremyarm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@ otherland
Don't be stupid, the "prayer" and "bible study" in this study is no different, and probably not as good as meditating, which is also known to relieve stress. There's not connection in that study to religiousness and longevity, only stress and longevity. Less stress = longer life. And meditating isn't a religious phenomenon. Hell, stress relief is not a religious phenomenon. So, saying that religious people tend to live longer, healthier lives is still completely unfounded. - wheremyarm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meditation
"Meditation is an important component in religion." does not mean religion is an important component to meditation. - bemenaker, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Holy crap, the US Gov't is actually doing something helpful for once in six years?! I have been watching this vaccine progress through development and it makes me happy to finally see it released. The makers of the vaccine are supposed to be expanding it to include the the other 95 or more strains of HPV that do not cause cancer as well. This is another one we can eradicate.
Hopefully, they will find an HIV vaccine soon too. And a way to kill these viruses in people who have them. - sbostedor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This is good news. Enough with the fighting about irrelevant issues. Go mow your lawn or something.
- das7282, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I understand that there are many strains of HPV and most show no symptoms but genital warts is cause by (or rather a "symptom" of) HPV.
- kublerross, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3When your daughter/son whom you refused to get vaccinated inevitably becomes a vector for a potentially fatal disease, i certainly hope you are held criminally and financially accountable by any and all victims.
- dunstdunst, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://www.dysplasia.co.uk/
- MattL920, on 10/12/2007, -10/+11Cue the religious right nuts saying that this will promote promiscuity and that it's better that these women develop cancer and die than, god forbid, have sex... in 3.... 2... 1...
- GinsuGuy585, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7@AXNJAXN As always, religious nuts are behind the times...
- karmajunkie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well, What they actually think about is genital warts and avoiding THAT... its got a much more fearsome ring to a vain young man or woman's ears. unfortunately that attitude of fear, propogated by the abstinence-only-education crowd, only delays the age of first sexual contact by between 12-18 months, and it tends to mean that when teens DO engage in sex, they do so without protection because of inadequate education, as well as the "if i buy condoms i'm a slut" mentality.
- imnotquitesure, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5A story about reducing cancer and you turn it into a dirty joke?
- africancapealoe, on 08/15/2009, -0/+1Yes the vaccine does encourage sex and unsafe sex at that! Are you living in as a hermit or something? I shall share what a story of a friend of mine who heard two teenage girls talking at a restaurant. One said to the other, 'My mom just got me the safe sex vaccine". What would you say was the interpretation of this vaccine in the minds of these girls? Take away accountability and responsibility and humans will run amuck every time.
- africancapealoe, on 08/15/2009, -0/+1And who is responsible for the 30 plus deaths that occured because they did get the vaccine? What about brain damage? And what if they get cervical cancer in spite of the vaccine? Who gets to be criminally charged and become financially accountable? And who is the real victim? Those of you who vote for the mandatory use of these should also be criminally charged and held financially accountable for voting to make this mandatory. How would you like that? Talk to a parent whose child lays dead now, see what they would have to say about criminal charges.
- pdrap, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Safety and efficacy of this vaccine have been demonstrated to be among the highest ever tested for a vaccine.
- MattL920, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@AXNJAXN...
Notice that I didn't say religious types. I said the religious right nuts, because there are those in that camp (just a small but vocal subset of religious types) who have actually come out and said that they're against it because it'll promote promiscuity. - wheremyarm, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Oh, and I forgot, "pwned."
- africancapealoe, on 08/15/2009, -0/+1No it is not doing something good. Watch the video on YouTube about Gardasil and heed the warning. With over 30 deaths already reported, this vaccine is proving to be a very lethal weapon that the government will back without, once again, the studies to prove that this vaccine is safe. How many times do we have to endure deaths from vaccine's before everyone gets the picture here. How many times do we have to witness great harm because the government allowed a drug or vaccine to be released upon the unsuspecting public only to find out that it had lethal side effects or would cause other life threatening damage? Don't think for a moment that these side effects weren't known before they were released.
- Moscube717, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Perhaps your view of Faith should move beyond the Dark Ages? We people of faith are far more interested in compassion and saving lives than we are about retribution and judgement. Sounds like someone needs to open up a little. My cousin contracted HPV, and developed signs of cancer. Trust me, I was way more concerned with her living than being punished for her activities.
- iceperson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/01/20030129-1.html
perhaps if you were paying attention instead of waiting to be spoon fed news from the drive by media this story wouldn't have got past you? - jakatak, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2let's call it what it is. A vaccine that MAY stop cervical cancer. Merk doesn't know if it really is effective because they used all of their R&D money for lobbying the gov't into making it manditory.
- lasdigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Cervical cancer pictures
http://hallencyclopedia.com/search.php?type=pictures&search=cervical+cancer&mode=Go - missflibbles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Wait a second. Getting this vaccine is definitely going to encourage younger and younger girls to have sex because they'll feel they have nothing to worry about! /sarcasm.
When it comes to sex, I would say more girls are worried about pregnancy than anything else, and HIV/AIDS after that. Judging by the population of the school I just graduated from, I'd say most girls have no idea what HPV is. - MattL920, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Oh and for the record, Otherland is a religious nut, not a religious type.
- KiSA, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3as if the vaccine will really engourage sex.
I mean, do you really think that there are teenage girls out there who might be thinking: "I could have sex, but what if I get HPV and then cancer from that?"
teens always think far ahead on stuff like that. This vaccine will just make them fornicate like rabbits... well even more so then they do now - deusx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@Moscube717: "Sounds like someone needs to open up a little. My cousin contracted HPV, and developed signs of cancer. Trust me, I was way more concerned with her living than being punished for her activities."
You've got my best wishes for your cousin. Someone close to me has this virus as well. Now... do you feel the same way for all people, regardless of whether they're related to you? I don't know about you personally, but it seems like the answer to that question is "No" in an alarming number of so-called Christians and People of Faith. - wheremyarm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Stupid 60 edit time...
Anwyay, you seem to be overly ready to sereotype me into a corner that you can ***** on. What's wrong, were you raped by a liberal when you were a kid? - xophonic, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2As some of you have said this is a vaccine that prevents MOST not all strains of HPV. This is the main cause of cervical cancer. most cases of HPV go away after 4-5 years, but the strains that persist beyond that are the ones that cause cancer. this is a small percentage of HPV that does this and this new vaccine does not prevent all strains, only most of the strains that are linked with cancer. This vaccine obviously only prevents in people who havn't already been exposed to the virus. But according to Dr. Drew Pinsky it has been shown to reduce risk in some patients who already have the virus. I hate how the media spins this stuff, this has been around for 4 years and is only recently being released.
- eviltandem, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The problem with not making them mandatory is you never eradicate the virus, and therefore future generations all have to be continuously innoculated because of the tards who won't get innoculated carrying around the disease.
- marxmarv, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0As if on cue, this very possibility made front page news in the (Gannett-owned, thus the simple yes-no question) Detroit Free Press:
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060628/FEATURES08/606280359&SearchID=73249271800101 - Moscube717, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@wheremyarm:
Absolutely I consider myself a Christian
@deusx
Thank you very much for your support. And the answer is yes, I would never wish this disease on anybody. I have learned through my walk with God that I am probably the least qualified person to judge others. I agree that there are a great many "Christians" who would respond in the opposite. It seems that these people are more concerned with "religion" than "faith." I have never seen anybody who was helped by being told that they "deserve" their fate for their wrongdoings. People who say things like that seem to be hurting their cause more than helping it (this applies to all religions). This also leads people to draw uninformed conclusions regarding the motivation of the "Christian right". - missflibbles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I was under the assumption the virus stayed with you. You might just not have any symptoms, much like herpes.
- wheremyarm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@Moscube
Do you consider yourself to be a Christian? - missflibbles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Condoms don't stop HPV? Well, *****. They probably don't make a dent in pregnancy or transmission of HIV, either. Idiot.
- Moscube717, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0sorry, replied in the wrong place, please bury
- eviltandem, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Maybe if your elected officials were more concerned with public health and less concerned about our private sexual choices, such lobbying wouldn't have been necessary.
We let the conservatives run wild, no we have to face the consequences of that choice. - AXNJAXN, on 10/12/2007, -13/+12Cue the intolerant left nuts saying that religious type love to see people die of cancer and that all religious types are completely out of touch with science and culture in 3... 2... 1....
- wheremyarm, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1awefwefawef
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Meditation is an important component in religion. It's how most people are exposed to meditation. So refuting the you and the original poster, a religious ideology promotes good health.
You are just a anti-religious bigot that would rather people suffer than live healthier lives through the religious ideology which motivates them. - gmurray, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2:tinfoil: it shouldn't be mandatory.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Wait until the lawsuits start coming out on how kids were having sex after feeling immune from this vaccine and 20 years later they got cervical cancer. Condoms don't stop HPV.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1Seriously, just give us a tax cut so we can spend the money how we see fit. Amazing how thanks to welfare I'm paying for entire families, multiple generations of lazy slobs to get free healthcare, yet my premium just went up.
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