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- nahsrocketeer75, on 05/07/2008, -3/+34Having been up since 4 a.m. (again) I can tell you about chronic tiredness.
- Harboggles, on 05/07/2008, -4/+33I went to high school for a year at a new place. I slept from midnight-2am every night until 6AM 5 days a week for the entire year. Plus I worked on the weekends from 8:30-5:30 saturday and sunday.
My weight has permanently sky rocketed, I haven't been able to lose it since.
My social skills suffered that year and I made 0 improvement on myself.
I was tired every day and napping in class. I hated everything.
This happens every day for our students. Let high schoolers sleep later and school violence will drop quickly and grades will improve. - PolarBearCa, on 05/07/2008, -5/+26Sorry to break the news to you, bud, but Chronic Fatigue Syndrome is a real condition and has nothing to do with the perception of "Self".
Seriously - who is digging up this Tom Cruise Scientology wanna-be?
If a fatigue state is occurring as a result of depression or mental illness, then it is NOT Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. It is a symptom of the depression or mental illness. Chronic Fatigue Syndrome is diagnosed when there is an absence of any other viable diagnosis.
I should know - I have had the illness for many years now. And I, for one, am fed up with this sort of pseudo-intellectual cure-all crap being spouted by individual that are nothing but glorified faith-healers. - plundstedt, on 05/07/2008, -0/+15They didn't have electricity for light, so they usually went to bed shortly after dark.
- veloscaper, on 05/07/2008, -2/+16they got slaves to do the work
- AlwaysAwake, on 05/07/2008, -19/+33The root of this common problem, physical causes ruled out by doctors, is normally a false, fearful perception of Self as a vast, life-long collection of memories and accumulated information relating to past hurts and pleasures. Thus conditioned, our minds engage in endless pursuit of trying to change what cannot be changed, with a vicious cycle of negative or positive thinking generating negative or positive feelings, projecting the past onto the present, and into the future psychologically. We label this worthless,pseudo-activity of attachment consuming consciousness as controlling; worrying; hoping; waiting; struggling; enduring; achieving; acquiring; possessing; etc. This relentless train of thought/feelings takes the form of judging ourselves and others; comparing ourselves to others or impossible ideals and role models; aggressively competing or escaping from false threats perceived as "real" (fight/flight syndrome); or imitating others perceived as "good" or "right". This leaves us restless, irritable and discontent. or enduring living in quiet desperation. Attached in this way to our past, we become human doings(dead things), not humans being (alive, happening now). Relentlessly hoping, wasting energy in this vicious cycle, to become someone or possess something in the future, when we will be happy. That, instead of just being happy now, for no reason at all. Pay complete non-judgmental attention to this pseudo-movement in your mind, without ambition to change it, and see what happens. You will be amazed, as the illusions effortlessly wither away, and you are full of energy now.
- KSUdesigner, on 05/07/2008, -9/+21Or you could just go to bed earlier like everybody else does. You think high school hours suck? Wait until you get out in the "real world."
- ganjadude4391, on 05/07/2008, -0/+11The chronic is the cause of my tiredness most the time
- Lucas123, on 05/07/2008, -1/+10I was going to comment, but I'm just too tired.
- fuhlavaflave, on 05/07/2008, -0/+9I can also relate to this. It's pretty much spot-on with how I live my life. Unfortunately, I'm getting an inkling that it's really called "clinical depression."
- CarStan, on 05/07/2008, -7/+16where did you get this from, where can i read more about this?
This nearly exactly describeshow i felt for the last 6 months. I know that my behaviour isnt healthy, but i haven't yet found a way out this misery. I have taken an off semester from college, because i dont wanted to screw my whole education. Its getting better at times, when i think i'm finally over the hill and i got it right now, but i still fall into the bad old habits of thinking.
So if you know more about this issue, some more advice to get out of it.
Is there a medical term for this condition? So maybe i can find a therapist who can help me to deal with it. Until now i backed away from consulting one, because: 1. i dont want to get drugs prescribed, 2. they will most often tell me that i have to 'help myself', wich is kind of problem, if a too focused self-conception IS the problem. - inspektor, on 05/07/2008, -3/+12couldn't agree more, early wake-ups ruin the whole day..
- lazerus9, on 05/07/2008, -0/+8They took power naps too!
- ChloeMS, on 05/07/2008, -3/+11What a bunch of mumbo-jumbo! As PolarBearCa said, CFS is a REAL medical problem. I suggest readers more interested go to http://www.cfids.org
- MasterChi, on 05/07/2008, -0/+8no, 8-5 unless your working bankers hours....7 hour work day. In the real world you don't get a paid hour lunch.
- zspeed78, on 05/07/2008, -0/+8I personally think that the name for it, which you asked for, is depression. I dont think anyone on digg can help too much with just a response. But what I found helped when I had just too many things in my head, was to write them all down on paper, taking pages even. Then rewrite them more clearly because your note will be a jumble of thoughts, and out of order probably. Write it ALL down. Anything that can pop into your head. And then, have a small notebook and pen with you at ALL times, and write whatever pops into your head again (things to do, changes, things you want to remember longer than 10 seconds from now). By doing so, I found that it really clears you up from worrying and thinking so much. Your brain doesnt have to think about in a constant loop to remind you and make sure you dont forget. Its simply on your list. Im not saying this will improve your problem right away, or at all, but for me when I would lay in bed thinking about stuff or run around during the day, it was a problem. Writing it all, and I mean ALL, helped me. When I wrote my list down I had 93 things. And I really do believe I thought about each one atleast a little bit a day. Lets say I gave each one 30 seconds (probably MORE though), thats 45 minutes a day of my mind worrying about stuff. Not thinking about progress, or optimism, or how to solve problem, but about stuff I should do or should have done already. Problem is it isnt all in 45 minutes in the morning. You spread it out through out your day. And it bothers you throughout the day. Spend the hour to make this list. A quality hour. I think youll notice that it helps.
- Rendonsmug, on 05/07/2008, -1/+8No, you're just an ass who thinks that just because he doesn't have something its not real. Remember that next time you're about to slip a PB&J into somebodies lunchbox.
- ganjadude4391, on 05/08/2008, -0/+6although that would be ***** sweet
- waggdogg, on 05/07/2008, -1/+7I own my own business, so I will push hard to complete a project. Since I'm a contractor, a lot of my work is physical and stressful plus I drink a lot of coffee. When I get tired I'll will take a power nap. 15 to 30 minutes and I'm good to go. I wonder what farmers did over a hundred years ago?
- lysdexic, on 05/07/2008, -1/+7Or maybe he's just tired of people telling him it's a mental condition when his problem has a legitimate medical etiology. That would make me bitter towards those types of people too.
- sykotik, on 05/07/2008, -0/+6Power naps are an excellent way to re-energize during the day. In fact, if you have a "normal" or set time for your power-naps, the best thing to do is down a cup of coffee (about 20-30 minutes to kick in, digestion and all that) and nap right then, when you wake up about 30 minutes later, good to go.
Leonardo Da Vinci was an avid power-napper as well. - Rendonsmug, on 05/07/2008, -1/+6Hear hear. Dugg.
- cccombobreaker, on 05/07/2008, -0/+5looks like the server went to sleep
- sasha211, on 05/07/2008, -8/+13really good article..thanks
- Ocelot13, on 05/07/2008, -1/+69-5?
- AttackingHobo, on 05/07/2008, -0/+5Shhhhhh....... Don't tell my boss.
- STKD, on 05/07/2008, -1/+6Sleep in fact has nothing to do with clinically diagnosed CFS. It's a myth. In fact, the opposite can often be true.
- lonnieh, on 05/07/2008, -2/+7this reeks of spam and nobody noticed? digg, what happened to you?
- rictek, on 05/07/2008, -0/+5Sounds a lot like basic buddhist principles. Go meditate.
- BabyWookie, on 05/08/2008, -1/+6Who the heck is digging up this bunch of pseudo-intellectual, new age para-psychology mumbo jumbo? I thought that diggers would be smarter than that. Eckhart Tolle, right? I heard that Oprah and him are getting into the cult business now. I tried to read his first book, but gave up rather quickly, after realizing that it's just another version of Buddhism, wrapped up in nonsensical, contradictory new age faggotry.
- 666dorado, on 05/07/2008, -3/+7zzzzzzzzzz.....
- inactive, on 05/07/2008, -2/+6~YAWNS~
I don't get it. - controltheweb, on 05/07/2008, -0/+4Sometimes it's solvable. If you have a combination of problems, each of which can be solved once diagnosed (like systemic candida and celiac disease), you can alter supplements, medications or lifestyle factors to fix the problem.
- PolarBearCa, on 05/07/2008, -1/+5See, you're confused. And so is the author, I think...
Being chronically tired is not the same as Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. Too many people think this is the case, and that's where the misunderstandings start.
Failing to get enough rest is why most people are tired.
I wake up every day, after getting more than adequate sleep, and I still feel like I used to feel after I worked a 16 hour double shift back before I had this illness. I also have chronic pain, a messed up immune system, sensory issues, brain fog and a host of other symptoms which cannot be explained in spite of being poked, prodded and tested for years. There is no technology that exists (yet) that can diagnose what causes the problem - and believe me, I wish there was, if only to prove people like YOU wrong.
And there were people in your grandparents generation who had the issue too, it was just labelled different things in different eras.
It is a debilitating, disheartening condition which induces a lot of frustration and pain in my life and the lives of many others. You have NO IDEA what it has taken from me and my family, and there is nothing that can be done about except to find ways to cope. - kipmartin, on 05/07/2008, -1/+5is it me, or was that a weird article? obviously, the english was odd, but i noticed the same slightly peculiar grammar common to the article AND to all 3 'posts' at the end of the article as well as a couple in the Digg comments. as i read the entire article, i had to re-read 8-10 sentences to fully grasp what was being said in such stilted, grammatically odd ways.
sorry, but im an editor and that just was SO weird!! - Rendonsmug, on 05/07/2008, -2/+6*****.
- dafragsta, on 05/07/2008, -1/+5Sounds more like insomnia
- ganjadude4391, on 05/08/2008, -0/+3yeah..... no my mom is not the source of the chronic.....
- lysdexic, on 05/08/2008, -0/+3Undoubtedly the body and mind are interconnected. However, if some A's are equal to B's and some B's are equal to C's, that doesn't meant that all A's are equal to C's. In other words, some physical illnesses can be exacerbated or even created by one's mental condition, but that doesn't mean that all physical illnesses are. To suggest otherwise is to use flawed logic.
- Rendonsmug, on 05/07/2008, -0/+3There is a difference between your lack of sleep and what this article is talking about. My story has similar themes but a few crucial details are different.
I went to high school at the same place through high school. For the first 3 years I slept from 10:00 until 6:30 am 5 days a week, and 2am-12:00 on friday and saturday nights.
I also slept during classes was tired every day.
I was physically active and kept up with homework, improved my social skills and myself.
My high school was a positive time for me, except that I slept 10-12 hours every day. Not everything comes from people not sleeping. - KSUdesigner, on 05/08/2008, -0/+3Plus if you are a salaried employee you normally won't get paid overtime, though you are expected to work overtime when necessary. And then the reality of it all sets in and you think, "***** I'm going to be doing this for the next 45+ years."
- inactive, on 05/07/2008, -0/+3Thank god we are moving towards a nanny socialist state, that way we can take care of everyone who has a "condition".
- hippydave, on 05/08/2008, -0/+3you can of course speak for yourself, alwaysawake, but that doesn't mean it's "normally" the case. and "physical causes ruled out by doctors" can't be relied upon until medical science has a 100% understanding of the human body and all possible problems with it, which - speaking as someone who has suffered more than half his life with an illness that is very poorly understood and often misrepresented - seems a very long way off right now.
i'm sure what you have written applies to some people, and i hope it helps them, but for those of us it doesn't apply to, it's very frustrating to read because it furthers the false ideas many people (medical professionals and general public alike) hold about us, and it's these false ideas that generally make our lives a lot harder. - Blakechi, on 05/07/2008, -3/+5"Avoidance of exciting substances, regardless of is it alcohol, coffee or even chocolate"
Yeah right.
Article was vague and therefore Dugg down. - dafragsta, on 05/07/2008, -1/+3I thought that too. I mean, I don't keep odd hours, but I certainly wouldn't enjoy living my life on a rail.
- elhaf, on 05/07/2008, -2/+4Mononucelosis.
- mrblaack, on 05/07/2008, -0/+2I just went on a no gluten diet 5 days ago because I suspected I had celiac disease and the difference has been amazing. I have tons of energy and no more irritability, joint pain etc. I will be preaching the anti-gluten word from now on.
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