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- DeskFlyer, on 10/10/2007, -10/+71I personally think ADD is not a 'disorder' at all.
- BigManOnCampus, on 10/10/2007, -7/+45You cannot expect a being with an energy-to-weight ratio of gasoline to sit still and learn at a desk. ADD is not a disorder. Teaching boys and girls using the same methods is a disorder.
- allaboutdatiki, on 10/10/2007, -1/+30Lets go ride bikes!
- rnwen2750, on 10/10/2007, -4/+21Okay, here's my two cents: ADD and ADHD are very over diagnosed today. HOWEVER, I have known individuals with true cases of these issues and they are not brats. They do not deserve to be hit (as someone below suggested) and do not need anything other than understanding to perform at their maximum level. Asserting that ADD does not exist is foolish. It is simply misunderstood and overdiagnosed.
- Satanael, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16My old art teacher in high school had Adult ADD. Having been around her is the only thing that really makes me believe ADD is a disorder, though I think it is diagnosed far too often on young children.
- jsd8cc, on 10/10/2007, -2/+15“When normal boy activity levels and developmental patterns are accommodated in the design of schools, curricula, classrooms, and instructional styles, an entire stratum of ‘boy problems’ drops from sight…Boys can achieve a high standard of self-control and discipline in an environment that allows them significant freedom to be physically active.”
-- Dan Kindlon, Ph.D. and Michael Thompson, Ph.D., from 'Raising Cain: Protecting the Emotional Life of Boys.' http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0345434854/ ... - dyreschlock, on 10/10/2007, -3/+15"In my day, we didn't have these fancy terms like ADD.. we just called the kid stupid, and that was that" -George Carlin.
- MadScientist420, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12"Boys and girls should be in separate classes until college"
WTF is wrong with you. What the hell are they supposed to stare at and fantasize about while ignoring the math teacher?? - iceschade, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12As a man who has struggled with ADD for his entire life, I can tell you that it is NOT a crock. Overdiagnosed, yes, but to those of us who actually have it, it's very difficult. We must develop great self-discipline in order to come close to being "normal," not to mention "successful."
- chsbrgr, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12That's BS, my dad has ADD and- oh look shiny!
- glucoseboy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Buried as lame. The article doesn't say anything about what the researchers actually found. It just pulls quotes out to say Oh yeah, it's genetic and we studied the brain using MRI.
Did anyone actually proof read this? - iceschade, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9It's far overdiagnosed today, true. But ADD isn't *****, nor was it created by liberals to let parents drug their children. You've no real clue what you're talking about, so don't try.
- yutt, on 10/10/2007, -6/+14Digg is where people pretend to support science, as a guise to mindlessly bash religion, and then make completely irrational and unscientific claims when presented with something they disagree with.
ADD is a disorder. Not only that, there are clearly physiological links to the disorder. Some of you people are ***** ignorant kids. - TekTrixter, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7It's not just a gender issue. People have drastically different learning styles, personalities, and strengths. Instead of accepting that people have differences the US education system wants to teach everyone the same.
- iceschade, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7I am 21, and I've lived with ADD my entire life. My views are thus:
1.) ADD is real. I know from personal experience, and all you idiots who claim it's a bunch of bunk are quite mistaken.
2.) ADD is not the cause of bad parenting. Just because you knew a kid with ADD and bad parents doesn't mean we all had bad parents. My parents were quite good, very structured, and somewhat militaristic. They taught me self-discipline, which is the main reason I've been better able to handle my ADD. (Maybe you think all ADD kids have bad parents because the only ADD kids you notice are the out-of-control ones whose parents don't know how to handle them?)
3.) ADD != Hyperactivity. ADHD includes hyperactivity, but most people outgrow that as they outgrow childhood. I used to be very hyperactive. Today, I'm willing to bet very few could even recognize I have ADD.
4.) ADD IS OVERDIAGNOSED. And I'm quite sick of it. "Your kid's hyper? Probably ADD." That's *****, and it makes it very difficult on those of us that actually do live with it, because the rest of you are convinced it's just BS. I believe that somebody, somewhere, should be able to figure out a more definitive test for ADD, involving the brain's chemistry and structure (two things altered by ADD).
5.) DON'T GIVE YOUR KIDS RITALIN, DEXEDRINE, OR ANY OTHER STIMULANT MEDICATION! Yes, it can help your child focus more while they're on it, but it becomes a crutch. Trust me, I was prescribed dexedrine as a child, and took it from elementary school to high school. By the time I got to high school, dexedrine didn't help anymore, and my grades suffered. Want to know why? It's because I'd lived my entire life letting dexedrine be my self-control. Without it, I couldn't focus on work. So, finally, I decided to quit taking it, because I'd developed no study skills, no coping mechanisms, nothing. When I quit, it took me about two years to finally get to the point where I could focus and drive myself to concentrate. I had to develop those coping mechanisms. So don't drug your kids. Yes, they'll suffer more as a child, but they'll learn how to work better on their own. Then, later in life, if they choose to use ritalin to help them focus, they'll benefit from it without losing their self-discipline.
To the parents: quit drugging your kids, quit babying them because they have a 'disorder.' Treat them like normal people and teach them self-discipline. (Yes, this means that you, yourself, must have self-discipline. If you don't, you shouldn't be having kids.)
To the psychologists/psychiatrists: quit assuming it's ADD. Give it a bit more thought before you jump to conclusions. You're messing up people's lives.
To the rest of you: quit trying to act like ADD is BS. It's real, and it's not something that can be beaten out of your kids. The insinuation by so many of you that physical punishment is the solution is somewhat sickening. "A good smack in the teeth?" That's not a solution to anything. I'm not against normal physical punishments (slapping hands, faces, or spankings) as they can work. But punching your kids isn't right, nor is it funny. I've known too many victims of physical abuse to consider your moronic "violence is the answer" statements funny. - Eivo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Rnwen is dead accurate on this. My father has been working as a social worker and counselor for youths most of his life. He says the same thing. ADD and ADHD are definitely real, but has been misdiagnosed and over diagnosed to a disturbing degree. Parents don't want to hear that they are poor parents, they want to hear that something is wrong with the child, not them. The effects of this mass perversion of parenting can be seen in many facets of our younger generations. It needs to be stopped.
- SteelChicken, on 10/10/2007, -9/+16my kid has a genetic reason for being a little punk, and now I dont have to discipline him! give him drugs and sit him in front of the TV, ahhhhh....thats better.
- dol3n, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8I can't wait for some study to find that Digg contributes to ADD.
- bromac, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7So, Winnie, how's the weather there?
- TheHydrogens, on 10/10/2007, -7/+13Have you ever tried turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?
- Arramol, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Very true. Speaking as someone who actually is ADHD, it can be very frustrating. It does delay your social development when you're younger, so you don't fit in, but don't know why. Of course, looking back, I can see a dozen different behavior patterns that I could have changed to make things better, but back then, I didn't understand those things. And even today, concentrating is extremely difficult. There are very, very few tasks that I can focus on for more than a few minutes at a time without significant effort.
- Mageling, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8There's a biological reason for everything anyone does.
- thcobbs, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6"Boys have biological reason to be troublesome"
Am I the only one who thought "young, dumb, and full of < fill in the blank >"? - exipolar, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6did you even read the article?
- bromac, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6Like you said, they just need understanding to perform.
Is it really a DISorder? - Octegon, on 10/10/2007, -6/+10This article was BORRRRRRRRRRRRING!!!
(see what I did there?) - iceschade, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Your Aunt isn't the only parent out there. My parents raised me in a very structured, militaristic environment. I wasn't coddled or babied as a child. I had ADD, I knew I had ADD, and I struggled. And no amount of punishment or praise could truly subvert that ADD. The only way I overcame it was through a great deal of self-discipline.
Just because your aunt was a ***** parent and had ADD kids doesn't mean that all kids with ADD have ***** parents. - SpykerSpeed, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3But... but... only girls are allowed to have their own schools! In all seriousness, I recall a study that showed that when children were separated by sex, both groups tended to perform better, but the boys' performance increased far more dramatically. It has to do with competition.
- MattB123, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6Absolutely.
Although it is easier to blame the devil. - Tyr7BE, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Now I have to use the term 'ace sex' in conversation.
- renegadeafk, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4This is a very interesti
- Mockylock, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4This is exactly right. They're starting to find that even some cases are genetically linked. I was diagnosed when I was younger and have had problems all my life. It's really hard to try and cope, just to try and get into a routine is extremely hard, sometimes overwhelming to the point of just giving up. When it interferes with work, training, school and so forth... it rips you apart. I've been on several different medications for it, but it makes you like a zombie.... so it sucks either way. Medication does work when you take it for those occasions, but relying on anything that harsh is awful.
I'm starting to think that it's due to sleep habits after seeing that symptoms subside after sleep apnea is taken care of (even if it's removing tonsils, strange, I know.)
My 3 year old son is showing signs of it, and it's very upsetting to watch. My daughter is 19 months and is an angel, both were raised the same way.. but my son has outrageous fits and other issues that make communicating with him impossible sometimes. To say that it's not really a disorder is pretty ignorant. To say that it's made up is about as right as saying that there has never been a disorder and people are basically just ***** up because they make themselves that way. - Shawn4168, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4It really isn't. Boys and girls are wired differently. Unfortunately, our over-feminized culture doesn't think that this is ok, and that boys need to be peaceful and pacifistic, like the girls are.
- hansk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3buried for the title being misleading. this is an article on ADHD, nothing to do with the notion that boys, in general, are troublesome.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4"Greco-roman wrestling school"? You'd better have a "plan B" if you want any grandchildren.
- Puppetfunk, on 10/10/2007, -26/+29ADD is a crock, usually kids just need a quick snap in the teeth once and a while and that'll set them straight.
- iceschade, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3It doesn't. But ADDers find themselves impossibly distracted by it. (I sure am...)
- EASwanson, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3On a side note making an arrow with the left carrot and the minus symbol in the left direction seemed to be what was cutting my post short.
- rnnbob, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4even murder and theft?
- iceschade, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Yes, there are. And yes, it is. And I'm all about discovering a way to truly test for ADD.
ADD is the result of abnormal brain structure and chemical imbalance. It doesn't mean stupidity or retardation, but our minds work differently.
There's GOT to be a better way to test for that. - puddininmyeye, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2yeah, understanding the effect your genes have on behavior is stupid, those damn scientists, always trying to understand things?
right? - puddininmyeye, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2just so you aren't completely shocked when you find out in a couple years...your son is probably gay.
- Galume, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Exactly
- Ghoztt, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Meditation.
- iceschade, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Erm... What does ADD have to do with murder? An adult with ADD who commits murder knows exactly what he's doing, just as a "normal" adult would. ADD has nothing to do with it.
- thanakar, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3In my day we were just hyperactive, so we got kicked outside on sunny days and made to play play play.
- rnwen2750, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2ADD =/= misbehaving. Jackass.
- flashingcurser, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Yes so is bi-polar. We put our son in a special school at the local school district, "Oh, we are trained to deal with bi-polar students, we see it all the time". Two months later the district was paying to put him in a private school where the staff was REALLY trained to deal with problems like my son's. (Yellowstone Boy's and Girl's ranch). We have to be careful of medicating out normal behavior. Over diagnosis leaves people completely unprepared for the "real thing", and so the people who actually have these disorders cannot get the help that they need.
- flashingcurser, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Children do not have the same ability to understand the consequences of their actions. That is why we have different sentencing for children as opposed to adults. So yes, an adult with ADD that murders someone would understand the consequences of their actions and should be punished differently.
I think some of the diggers here are pointing their anger at the wrong party. Diagnosis is GOOD, some of the treatments are the problem. My wife has 3 brothers, her mother, her grand mother who have been clinically diagnosed with bi-polar disorder. Our oldest son is bi-polar, my youngest son is fine. My son's psychiatrist told us that most disorders have a genetic component. He is NOT a liberal by the way. He also told us that most disorders have no magic bullet. There is no magical combination of pills, therapy, parenting, and voodoo that will make our son better. One would only have to ask my son about this, he has a higher IQ than I do. There are 2 very bad stereotypes: 1 people with psychological disorders are all mentally retarded and cannot assess that they have a problem (with a 160 IQ my son doesn't that problem), 2 It is all clearly caused by bad parenting. Most people with mental disorders have average IQ. -
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