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- redrock34, on 10/11/2007, -9/+136The government wouldn't even accept Cuba's help during hurricane Katrina, which could have saved lives. What makes you think the government gives a crap about these rescue worker's health condition? The rescue workers could die for all the government cares.
- joshshu, on 10/11/2007, -11/+100i like the movie
- Erfman, on 10/11/2007, -3/+59The small "i" in "SiCKO" stands for the individual and how the health care system feels about him and his tiny wallet.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -4/+57I am one of the lucky ones, i have lived in the u$a for 20 years But as soon i need health care i get on the plane go home to England. First question in u$a doctors how ya gonna pay. Insurance is not worth the paper its printed on. They pay people big money to find ways to decline your claim. If this was going on in Europe they would be riots. They feed the Americans about we have the best really 37th best, but it is number in cost.
- musntSurfatWork, on 10/11/2007, -4/+40Good movie, presented in a way that sets the way for the truth to speak for itself, Michael Moore didn't even *have to be in it*,
Nothing new however, to those who live and think outside the box. Although a major wakeup call to all Americans to GTFO and not have to sell their souls to get medical attention. Mass excodus anyone? Captialists pwn you.
America is the way it is today, because they did not have to suffer much through any humanitarian attacks in recent wars, such as the Brits did. Europe and the rest of the world, have leaders for the people. Sadly, this is not the case in America. Just my opinion, I am as insignificant of a human being as the rest of the world. - Fhwqhgads, on 10/11/2007, -3/+36The truth hurts don't it?
Big Pharma always try to shut up all the truth tellers. - SgtBlue, on 10/11/2007, -9/+41What the hell are they gonna do? Flood him with angry letters saying "WE DISAPPROVE OF YOUR MOVIE!!!" Gimme a break.
- babydill, on 10/11/2007, -4/+29I personally thought this movie was great.
- Parthymon, on 10/11/2007, -0/+24The reason the segment with Hillary was so dramatic, with the music, etc. was because she was actually trying to get universal healthcare going, but also to contrast with later, when he talks about the big pharma buying her out.
I've already made up my mind to save up cash for moving to canada. - lukemh, on 10/11/2007, -5/+28Living in Australia, having seen the movie, and having been to the USA - i think the movie goes well to explain how good a government/tax funded health care system IS in most other democratic societies (such as Australia) outside the USA. i couldn't believe when in the states a friend had to pay $20,000 for a surgery. People may dismiss moore for being one sided, and stuff, but i dont see anyone else inducing such positive america-wide discussions on issues, and stimulating peoples minds - helping the to come to their own conclusions. ANYWAYs... i think the USA is great, high level of living quality. but not equal healthcare for all.
- Dolomite, on 10/11/2007, -6/+28the government will never help these rescue workers, Micheal Moore is the only one who can save them by making movies like Sicko and Fahrenheit 9/11 and exposing all the cover up corruptions, and conspiracy that they dont want you to know. Good think we have a man like Moore on our side to ask the hard questions and bring truth and justice to all. If everyone had just 1% the wisdom and insight he has we would be so much better off. Seriously, I hope he runs for office one day.
- WaterDragon, on 10/11/2007, -3/+25The insurance industry depends on people dying, as they use the ignorance and fear associated with that as their major selling point. People's grief= a chance to screw people out of their money, for those blood-suckers.
- Kolar, on 10/11/2007, -6/+26Ron Paul is a libertarian. He opposes universal health care. He opposes the HMO system on the fact that it was Government mandated. The problem is this system has no regulation, it is a free market but Ron Paul doesn't think so.
The fundamental flaw to all of this libertarian crap is that it empathizes business control of every aspect of life. Business is only interested in one thing and that's profit. It's crazy to think that big business will bend over backward to accommodate everyone or act in the best interest of their customers when it directly works against their goal. It needs strong regulation to ensure it does not discriminate or work against the best interest of citizens because this is life or death for millions of people. Put aside the idealogical *****. - Urusai, on 10/11/2007, -3/+21We have little to no interest in your lack of interest.
- hotsake, on 10/11/2007, -0/+18To correct you: PTSD (post-traumatic stress disorder) is in no way similar to the "stress" some people feel after a long day at work. PTSD can debilitate a person, especially when exposed to a terrifying situation. You cannot simply get rid of it like you can with normal stress. Perhaps you ought to educate yourself before discrediting the work Moore has done with this film.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-traumatic_stress_disorder
http://www.medicinenet.com/posttraumatic_stress_disorder/article.htm - johnhummel, on 10/11/2007, -0/+15Depends. In the case of the US government, they could try to put him in jail for having "dealings with Cuba" - as well as the others that were with him.
In the case of the big pharmaceuticals and HMO's, they could file civil lawsuits for libel - even if they lose, they can force him to spend money defending himself.
So there's lots they could do - the question is, do they think it will actually make his film *more* believable/encourage viewership if they do so, and by doing so raise awareness against them. - WaterDragon, on 10/11/2007, -1/+15There can be some controversy around Cuba, for sure. The travel restrictions have made it so that most of us in the US have to rely on hearsay.
And I suppose the people in charge of those hospitals in Cuba may have heard, long before, about Michael Moore's plan to go there, or at least to Guantanamo, with those people. So maybe they were prepared to put on an awesome show for the Americanos....but still, they DID give people much needed medical care. From the viewpoint of a sick person in need, it matters not who helps them, all politics aside.
i sort of wished he had just stuck to the references to the health care systems of Canada , UK, and France, in the film.
But some conniving idiots might just try to discredit that too. What can you do with idiots, other than offer to help them learn something?
Still, most people who see the film will recognize the familiar truth, despite the efforts of anyone to persecute and destroy. the entire concept of freedom as reflected in this film.
But you know Mike...he always has to go a little overboard...in a sort of macho, Michigan-patriotic display. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12did you not see the part later on when he trounces her? The comparison is to illustrate the point of the healthcare industry buying _literally_ everyone
- chris9902, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3711348/Sicko.2007.DVDrip
There you go. Try to drop you preconceptions about this movie and just watch it for what it is. - dattaway, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10$20,000 for a surgery? That's cheap. Good medical care here in Kansas City cost $40,000 for my wife's SECOND knee operation. My broken femur cost my employer a cool $62,000.
- jamesallen74, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11What a sick country we would live in, if the government comes after Moore and these 9/11 heroes.
Question to government: What should you be more mad at?
a. That this group of people broke the law and went to Cuba to get the care they NEED
b. That our Health Care got put to shame by CUBAN health care by treating OUR 9/11 heroes better than we can!
Kinda of like what Tony Campolo tells churches. It is sad that:
1. 30,000 children died in 3rd world countries last night
2. That you don't give a *****
3. That you are more upset that I said the word ***** in church than you are upset that 30,000 children died. - orlyfactor, on 10/11/2007, -5/+15Andrew - no one really gives a ***** about your non-opinion, why even bother posting, is your life that lackluster? I actually have little to no interest in the answer to that question, so please don't answer.
- gronne, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9That's what I was going to say. I don't know how someone would think that was a pro-Hillary moment in the movie.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -9/+18This is fairly stupid on the PharmaCos part.
This is what Moore wants them to do as it helps promote him and his film.
Ever notice that every time he puts a new film out some sort of "they are trying to stamp me out" type of incident happens.
Dumb. Very dumb. - Jennifurret, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11I actually just recently visited one of the big pharma companies in America less than a week ago through an internship of mine. Let me just say, I was shocked at how honest they were with us. Shocked because they told us how they and doctors overprice everything to make a profit, that they only cure the diseases that will bring in the most money, that they aren't interested in doing something that will only help 100 people because that won't make money...Granted, I'm cynical and knew all this ahead of time, but I'm surprised they came out and told us. They probably thought we were prospective employees or something. Personally, the whole show they put on was very elitist and disgusting, and in no way would I be able to work for a company like them.
- SuperMoses, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10Look, the real Cuba isn't as pretty as Michael Moore tries to paint it (or at least it's health care). However, you have to put it into context. The reason why Cuba is struggling is because of the trade embargo imposed on it by the United States. The reason why there are political prisoners is because of the US' habit of overthrowing socialist governments in Latin America (Fidel was a socialist). The CIA this week will be releasing 700 pages of things they had done in the 60s and 70s and some of those things include the attempt to assassinate Fidel Castro. So, of course Fidel is going to have political prisoners... the US were on his ass and wanted him dead (even though he did NOTHING to the states). Keep in mind the Cuban missile crisis came AFTER the Bay of Pigs. So Castro has political prisoners out of a reasonable fear the US would use them against his government and the US maintains their trade embargo because he has political prisoners. It's a lose lose situation for him. The Cubans are free from imperialism, but they are going through what they call "the struggle".
- hotsake, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10I know this is off color, but I'm surprised Moore hasn't been killed off yet. Thankfully, I think our government prefers to ignore his voice and existence rather than whacking him.
- Phos, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9SiCKO was a huge awakening for me [and the end of the movie, I was deeply offended, embarrassed that our Country is doing this, and outraged]. I always knew the system was corrupt, but I didn't realize just how bad it is. It doesn't surprise me that Pharm and Insurance companies are trying to smear this film or Moore: these CEO's, crooked doctors/hospitals/companies are earning a lot of money denying people coverage/treatments.
America needs focus on the health care industry and make a change. It doesn't matter what political affiliation you're associated with, just watch the movie. - WaterDragon, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10You might disagree with something about this story, but it is NOT spam. Don't know what SPAM is?
It is not like this article is trying to sell you a product, but rather, it is discussing a relevant, newsworthy issue (...that has even been mentioned in your precious corporate-owned news media) You are abusing the digg system, by falsely reporting something you merely disagree with, as spam.
The article is not even trying to sell you the movie, as you can easily download it for free! And Michael Moore has publicly stated that he is OK with people downloading and sharing his movies.
So where's the SPAM in that?
I think YOU are the spam! So you need to be banned, for abusing the digg system. - OakRidger, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10About four years ago, there was a report on a long-term study on the use of high-dollar blood pressure meds versus the use of generic diuretics. Turned out that the diuretics - that cost a couple cents per pill - were as effective as - and in some cases more effective than - the high dollar blood pressure meds. They're also safer, the long-term effects are known...but doctors keep prescribing the high-dollar meds.
I've seen patients where their treatment regularly exceeds five million ($5,000,000) per year for medication alone - clotting factor for hemophilia is a complex and expensive item to make. Yet, where the insurance plan is paying out $400,000 for a 30 day treatment, the patient is only paying a copay of $20. Where does the insurance company get the money to pay for that? They're not in business to lose money - they're there to make a profit - so they hike everyone's costs to cover those folks that have very expensive treatments.
People rail against the insurance business (and guess what - I'm one of them), they scream about how much they have to pay on a monthly basis, they get upset over having to get prior authorizations and overrides and the like - but then, instead of doing what would save money all around (getting generics, going through mail, understanding their plans), they demand the brand name, high-cost medications.
An example - Vytorin is a fairly new cholesterol medication...but it's actually not. It's a combination of two generically available medications, Zetia and Zocor. But rather than the inconvenience of taking two pills at a generic copay of about half the brand copay (depending on the plan) - they'll pony up the high dollar copay, and cause their plan to pay about twice what it would for the two generics.
I'm not a doctor - I work for a Pharmacy Benefits Manager, and I see this stuff going on every day. I see things that make me want to scream - the hoops set out for approval for medications can be insane - but I also see that the plans are trying to save money - which would also allow the patients to have to pay less to them on a regular basis. Someones grandpa is taking Aricept - but when he takes his MMSE, his scores are going down, and the medication isn't working. Should the plan continue to pump money into treating the disease?
Those folks who are calling for government run health care - think about it - this is the same government (whether democrat or republican) that is trying to manage Medicare Med D. It's the same government that created and runs the IRS - the same government that runs the USPS and Amtrak.
I'm sure I'll get flamed - but thanks for the opportunity to vent a little. - NeuroSlappy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9Government lobbyists and compromised politicians cause the problem. Now the government lobbyists and compromised politicians want to solve the problem. Their generated problem, their solution and their ultimate goal, control of health care. These guys are diabolical geniuses and we are the puppets again. Yes!!!???????
- johnnybuoy, on 10/11/2007, -3/+10More and more regulations only give more and more loopholes, as the law "gets patched" more and more it also gets bloated, the chance fo bugs happening is simply much bigger. A _real_ reform in the healthcare system is needed, it needs to be redone from the ground up!
- garyrmiller, on 10/11/2007, -3/+9The MOVIE is a must see.....Americans need to see it hell everyone needs to see it, i can only hope it causes change and opens those few eyes that can make a difference
- jpell05, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Just wait for the day when you lose your job and suffer a stroke. I wonder if your beliefs would change?
- Airjuggernaut, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10I think Micheal Moore is an amazing dude, he tells it like it is in his Documentaries.
- zweben, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Not so much ignore, but attempt to marginalize.
- NikoKun, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7If the government doesn't want to deal with Cuba... fine, it's just one of their many mistakes, to shun out people that they call enemy, it always comes back to screw them... We should probably be trying to work with Cuba, but maybe I'm just not following with the situation enough...
BUT, when the government starts ***** with the Citizen's rights to go where we want, and buy what we want.... thats when they become wrong in this situation... I've always thought it was against american values to impose trade embargoes on citizens... -_-
Let the citizens do what they want, travel where they want, and buy what they want... ***** off government... If Cuba didn't want to trade with citizens, fine, but they're not the one's with the ***** embargo, thats the US government... - RpgActioN, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8Kolar: I'm amazed somebody on Digg other than me finally has said something against Ron Paul and not gotten dugg down to ***** for it.
Also - this comment hierarchy is retarded. This post shouldn't be here. - celeb, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Direct link to article @ The New York Sun
http://www.nysun.com/article/56901 - Fallout911, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8The current health system needs change ASAP call or write your congressman about HR 676 the Conyers-Kucinich healthcare bill.
- iDragonFly, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5"Go on your merry way being cynical ... see how far that takes ya!!!"
Oh the irony from a troll ...
At least 'Jenn' isn't MORALLY bankrupt.
Those talented employees you refer to ... are either terribly desperate, or they're jaded to the point of having sold their humanity for a monetary reward. - NeilAdmirari, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5What's the difference between ignorance and apathy?
Let me guess: you don't know and don't care. - Mullinsmcd, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4It was very clear that he was only making a point that the most 'clever and sexy' (uggh..hurts to type that) woman in politics was still unsuccessful in her attempts to create a single payer system, then after the smoke cleared the Insurance agencies proceeded to buy her out showing that they will make sure that there is no viable thread to their evil business model.
- LeeSoong, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5I want to see the political suicide of anyone
who would dare arrest a 911 responder,
sick from rescuing people from the fallen Twin Towers,
for going to Cuba,
to get free medical care,
they were denied by their own USA government.
How Outrageously Sad is That?
- NikoKun, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6Too many people are looking at this movie because of the whole Cuba thing... instead of looking at the real message of the movie... -_-
- CaptainRotundo, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5While I am not delusional and thought that part of the film clearly COULD have presented a view of Cuban health care that wasn't realistic, I also have NO reason to trust the site you link to, I suspect the truth MAY be somewhere in the middle.
- ISIfunded911, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Many more people would see that the US is now a fascist police state controlled by the corporations, and that a revolution, either peaceful or violent, is needed.
- ISIfunded911, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5Ban ads for drugs and people will stop asking for new expensive drugs! Such ads are forbidden in many countries for a very good reason. Nationalize Big Pharma and doctors won't get bribed anymore!
Government-run health-care works better in many countries than the for profit system that kills so many people each year in the US. Dozens of countries spend less than the US and their citizens live longer and healthier lives. The case for universal health-care is logical and proven. -
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