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- sonaro, on 10/11/2007, -1/+65I graduated high school at 155 lbs. A few years ago after a lifestyle of garbage and indulgence, I woke up weighing 206 lbs. Of course I filled out somewhat like any man does, but that is still a lot of weight and I was fat. So I decided to kick some ass. No pills, no Atkins, just hardcore jogging, biking and the gym, while of course, eating right. I lowered the amount of fat in my food, increased whole grains, vegetables and proteins and drank water like an animal. I also increased the amount of times I ate per day but lowered the serving size.
After 2.5 months I weighed 162 lbs., a decrease of 44 lbs. Everyone asked how I did it, what the trick was, and most people were upset when I told them how; they wanted a quick fix.
I've gone up and down in weight since then but it was never a surprise to me; it was always a sign of irresponsibility and the same 'cure' was always the answer. During this brief moment within human existence, the majority of people are sitting on their ass all day and living. We are animals that need activity and proper diet. - Boshow, on 10/11/2007, -2/+64Willpower...does that come in pill form now?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -14/+63Now instead of just ridiculing fat people until they became thin, we tell them they're special and have a disease and treat them with pills that make them ***** oil all over themselves. What a ***** joke.
- SteelChicken, on 10/11/2007, -11/+46this and "everyone gets a trophy" and "we are all winners" and all this other liberal hippy feel good ***** is going to destroy our species.
- arrogantprick, on 10/11/2007, -1/+31Stunning new revelation! The Four word Diet Plan! Guaranteed results!
"Eat Less, Exercise more."
It ain't rocket science. - redrock34, on 10/11/2007, -2/+27TAKE THIS PILL TO LOSE WEIGHT!
(diet and exercise required) - kinerry, on 10/11/2007, -5/+27Percent of people who quit alcohol with AA - 5%
Percent of people who quit alcohol without AA - 5%
Willpower is not something you can earn, you either have it or you don't. - ddxChrist, on 10/11/2007, -2/+18I've been called a "liberal hippie", usually appended with godless as well, but I feel the same way as you do. It isn't rocket science. Monitoring your diet and exercising regularly is crucial for more than just weight loss.
We don't need government intervention. We need people to accept responsibility for their own actions. Sure, genetics play a role, but based on the rest of the world, genetics don't account for the rampant obesity in the US; it's more likely caused by poor eating habits and a sedentary lifestyle. And I'm not biting the bullet because people can't take care of themselves after being given the necessary info and encouragement. - agent888, on 10/11/2007, -0/+15I did the exact same thing. I was at 235, and dropped to 155 at the lowest now up to 160-165....after a month+ at the gym and noticeable muscle gain.
It doesn't take a pill, a diet, or a gimmick. It is all about Lifestyle change. I started by eating better, and that lost me 30 lbs in about 4 months. Then I found activities I loved, Tennis and Golf, that got me another 20 lbs in about 8 months. Then I started at the gym, and that got me about another 20 lbs in 6 months.
It's slow, but it works. I feel healthier, I'm happier, my confidence has sky rocketed. So many people tell me "You should eat!" and I do, I really do. Given my new active lifestyle what ever I eat gets used.
My biggest suggestion for people, find an Active sport or activity that you love to do. Let that be your exercise, and then it won't seem tedious at all. - thechao, on 10/11/2007, -2/+16I have been overweight since I was a child. Right now I weigh ~255lbs. and my target weight is ~195lbs. For about 2 yrs I maintained a value near my target weight---200lbs. Doing so was straightforward: 90-120 minutes of concerted cardiovascular every day, and a restriction of my caloric intake to 1200 calories per day, plus 60 minutes of weight lifting 3 times a week. My current workout schedule is 45 mins of cardio 3 times a week, 75 min of weight lifting 3 times a week and a caloric intake of ~1800 calories a day. I am technically obese, but you know what? ***** IT. For two YEARS I woke up hungry, ate breakfast, was hungry 15 mins. later until lunch, was hungry 15 mins. later until dinner, and went to bed hungry. To be 200lbs. I spent 10 hours a week doing cardio (something I don't enjoy) plus 3-4 hours a week doing weight lifting (which I do enjoy). I'd rather be fat and happy for 65 yrs than thin and unhappy for 90 yrs. However, I did get dealt a bad genetic-hand (we have historical evidence of obesity for my entire family going back 140 years on all branches of the family).
However, I disbelieve that this is true for so many people who are currently overweight (especially youngsters). Morbidly obese children are a sign of parental negligence. Also, having actually done some research we must carefully separate "overall weight" from "obese weight".
The research says that for a given level of expected ingestion (a mostly genetic number), metabolism (also genetic), then there is an expected weight. This is not a 'body fat percentage'. For example, my current goal is to put on 20lbs of muscle over the next three years (I put on strength and muscle mass easily). Due to simple physics this will give me a target body weight of ~220 lbs at about 19% body fat, as muscle metabolizes food faster than fat. - Travisty2012, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13Good job! I'm in almost the exact same situation. I don't want to try any pills or crazy diets like Atkins. I've done a lot of research this week on how to eat right and have been digging up a lot of recipes that I can deal with. I officially start my diet on Monday. It's great reading your comment on what can be done in less than 3 months. It's good knowing that if I stick with it and work hard I will see results like this in a few months...
- geekfrom99, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9i know, they tell kids not to smoke either. it's like they WANT them to get fat
- skyh, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11I'm all for using willpower!.... as long as I don't have to exert myself.
- f4nt0m4s, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8Weight loss is a lifestyle. If you spent 20 or 30 years getting fat, it only makes sense that you'll need to spend at least 2 or 3 years undoing the damage done. There are infomercials and advertisements for all these 3-week quick fixes, or 2 month programs, and it's all complete *****. You need to undo your lifestyle, go run everyday, and stop eating *****. Fruits, vegetables, whole grains, water, no soda, no DIET soda, no sugar substitutes. The problem nowadays is that people can't compromise.
Weight problems are feeding the machine: hacks like Dr. Phil are making tons of money for writing books that explain simple ***** like, "In order to lose weight you need to eat less."
No. *****. Way.
Hell yeah you need willpower to change your lifestyle. But I think a lot of the probably is deeply rooted in the fact that people view weight loss as an hourly activity to do once a day, or a hobby. If you are serious about getting your ***** fit it is a lifestyle. - lordtyros, on 10/11/2007, -4/+12I agree. Have you been to schools lately? They actually discourage eating disorders these days!
Outrageous. - iceperson, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8I'm not asking for anyone's respect, just a little human decency and some common courtesy.
- TheUngod, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8Not even necessarily there, but in other countries. Why is America so fat, while other countries are not? 30+% of Americans don't have a thyroid issue, while the rest of the world is at a whopping 1-10%.
- TrevorBradley, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Ridiculing fat people just keeps them fat. It's a horrible cycle "Oh ***** I'm fat and worthless and I'll never ever be any better and what's the ***** point and..." then it's pantry raiding time. It's easier and nicer than killing ourselves.
I did go from obese to normal weight, 65 pounds dropped, and I did it through will power and not pills, but only long after I got away from anything remotely close to ridicule. When I finally did lose the weight, those same people who ridiculed me complimented me, and their praise felt cold and empty inside.
Losing that weight is ***** hard, and we don't need ***** that tease us to make it worse. Please leave us alone. - DerGeist, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7You must be new here.
- Gaki, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6My wife was ridiculed all the way through HS for her weight. Post HS, she kind of came into her own by moving to a new city, hanging with new friends, and lost a ton of weight. When she eventually moved back to the home town, the jerk guys that used to mock her were all trying to get into her pants. One guy wasn't even smart enough to do it when I wasn't around and so I got to watch her call him on it in front of a room full of people. She was so mad, she was shaking and the guy looked like a trapped rat. He was trying to get past her and she kept jumping in the way and pushing him backwards ... and she is NOT a physical person at all. The jackasses of the world don't even remotely realize what kind of damage they do.
- HarryBauzonia, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Your friend is lying to you. Fat people are like alcoholics that way.
I can just about guarantee you that if you dig through your friend's purse/desk/car, you'll find some Little Debbie snack cakes or the empty wrappers.
Weight gain/loss is based on these simple facts:
If you burn more calories than you take in, you lose weight.
If you burn the same calories you take in, you maintain weight.
If you burn less calories than you take in, you gain weight.
There's no chemical inside the human body which generates calories. Fat people just say that in the hope that they won't appear responsible for their condition. - PamalaLauren, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Well first off ridiculing anyone won't produce change. You can call me fat and a pig as much as you want, I don't give a rats ass what anyone thinks about my fat.
But I agree, willpower is the key because imagine if you use a pill or have surgery and never deal with the underlying addiction and habits? These things aren't end alls to obesity and you can become obese again if you don't take care of yourself. So sometimes taking the easy way out isn't the best way out.
What I'm doing is eating less (because you don't necessarily have to change your diet, just your intake) and working out 4x a week. And I'm not doing it because I feel bad about myself in any way. I'm doing it because of a birth defect that until now hasn't been a problem. But now it is and I need to get this weight off to avoid horibble back pain.
It's hard work, that's for sure and it's annoying to not see the fat just fall off but that's not reality. It takes time and lots of effort to lose weight and a lifestyle change to maintain your new weight.
Anyhow I've already gone down a dress size so that's cool. - VictoryGin, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Amen... as a former fatty and alcoholic
- TheUngod, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6So for some reason, Americans tend to have a population that has over 30% thyroid issues, while the rest of the world has 1-10%? If it were honestly medical most of the time, there wouldn't be such a varying range. Most people are fat because they eat too much and don't exercize, the few who have medical issues have to get it taken care of with medication, or unfortunately they suffer.
- slimasian, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Amen to the article. The world has become so "wussified" to the point where science and medicine tries to remove accountability from the person. While I do agree there are legit cases of people with weight problems, I'd venture to say a vast majority simply can't learn control and discipline.
I remember an article on Digg a while ago also discussing the economics of diets -- that is, the poorer have a greater likelihood of being obese because of the quality of food available to them. Perhaps another point is that people cannot learn control because the food available to them can be inherently addictive? - ripple123, on 10/11/2007, -5/+9Yeah cause crushing a persons self worth is a great way to increase their willpower. Its not like social isolation would make it worse.
- Ghoztt, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6Want to lose weight? I will give you a free diet that I GUARANTEE WILL WORK OR YOU CAN SUE ME. (har har har)
STEP 1: Become a vegetarian.
STEP 2: Do high calorie burning CARDIOVASCULAR exercises. An expensive gym membership is NOT needed. Sidewalks and running are free. If you've got bad knees, go swimming instead of running.
STEP 3: Meditation is very helpful. Remember that the mind, body and soul are one. Don't neglect any side of yourself!
Cheers!
-Ghozt - arbulus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4"don't sit there and try to claim that we should respect them as people."
So there are entrie groups that you would be perfectly ok with calling sub-human? And why is what they do worth ridicule? What is it doing to you? If you don't agree with it or don't like it, then just ***** ignore it. no one is asking you to hug every overweight and tell them you approve of their lifestyle. All you have to do is accept that everyone is human and has a right not to be judged by their appearance. - PhantomRogue, on 10/11/2007, -4/+8Wait a second, you mean people should be responsible for themselves?! Thats just crazytalk!
- brufleth, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4How much does she drink? Maybe she's just one of the many unlucky ones but drinking actually figures into the weight problems of many people.
- archlich, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5That is the most ignorant thing i've read all day. Just because people are overweight doesn't mean that they aren't healthy. Hell, there's plenty of thin people that don't exercise and their internal organs are far worse off than fat people. Want a link? http://sf.broowaha.com/article.php?id=1499
So tell me, how do you tell which fat people are ok to dehumanize? - iceperson, on 10/11/2007, -5/+9I love how people who have never seen adversity talk like you. I was in the Marine Corps for 8 years until I was in a car accident that left me unable to run and/or lift anything more than 20 pounds with my right arm (3 crushed vertabra and a shoulder replacement at 27 isn't fun.) Before then I maintained a perfect 300 PFT score (3 miles in 18 minutes, 20 dead hang pull-ups, and 80 sit-ups in 2 minutes.) Since then I've put on about 50 lbs. I invite you to point and laugh though, because I'd be willing to bet I could still beat down punkass ***** who talk ***** on the internet.
Before you judge a man (woman) you better damn well know the circumstances. - mightyzug, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4harry hit it... your friend is full of *****. be it snack cakes, fast food, or simply soda she is taking in too much of something that she shouldnt be
- Rinnt, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Not to nit pick, but more of an FYI, there's nothing wrong with eating before bed -- that's a common myth. It's the total calories consumed during the day that is important.
http://www.ediets.com/news/article.cfm/cmi_1741946/cid_1
http://www.thatsfit.com/2007/06/27/exposing-the-medical-myth-dont-eat-before-bed/
Wish I could help you with the motivation...that sux =(
Some people claim that having a workout partner can help? - Phayde415, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4"Nothing in this life worth having comes easy." - Dr. Kelso to obese patient opting to have gastric bypass instead of dieting, "Scrubs" TV show.
- itsinmyeyes, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Being vegitarian isn't nessicarily the best thing you can do because many times when people become vegitarian they start to eat more cheeses or just eat the same crap without the meat. I think the real solution is to just eat well. With or without meat.
- Timetheos, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5I love watching thin people get fat. I'm fat. I do Weight Watchers and I've loss some and I'm definitly not getting worse.
I've been teased by people who 10 years later end up fatter (and balder than me; I'm not bald at all). Now they know the difficulty.
Vast majority of the people submitting comments on this board saying "fat people are lazy and should be ridculed" will find themselves with the same fate 10-20 years from now. Those ***** will learn the hard way. - LLLSecretChimp, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4ddxChrist, since you believe in personal responsibility, from now on you're a godless libertarian hippie.
- insomniac8400, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7Your medical condition would have a lot more respect if the majority of fat people weren't that way just because they eat a lot and are lazy. You should support anything that makes lazy people exercise.
- wattznext, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I agree. I saw this episode of deal or no deal where they had this Asian woman as a contestant. they had her parents in the audience, and kept playing up how her parents came to America with $88. Howie kept talking about how the contestant had the chance at the American dream her parents wished for when they came here. "this case could be your ticket to the American dream...it may hold 1 million dollars."
i kept screaming at my TV "the American dream is WORKING HARD, moving up in stature, having a better life than your parents and setting your children up for a better life than you had." Again, the American dream is a better life through HARD WORK. not falling ass backwards into money on a TV show.
but that's the perception now. get your 15 seconds of fame, get rich, live fast, who cares. UGH - masonexcell, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I second that Travisty and Sonaro.. Just until about 2 years ago I was 160lbs but after becoming a security guard I developed realy lazy habits of eating right before I went to bed, eatign the wrogn things and drinking beer (usually lagers and ales which are high in carbs but good none the less) and now im 210lbs never been 200lbs before.
The problem is for people is motivation. Most people think hey if I get this new work out machine, pill or join a gym that will make them want to get into shape.. "Motivation in can"
I on the other hand used to be extremly obssed with working out and I just burned out but now that im a fat piece of crap, i dont even want to go out and meet girls. - nullp0inter, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Both my parents are morbidly obese. My grandparents, aunts and uncles are all overweight or morbidly obese. I'm a healthy weight because I eat well and exercise often. Its getting harder to exercise now that I have a desk job, but I still find time because nothing is more important than my health and wellbeing.
- arkanebeats, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4lol like the party responsible for electing the current president has any room to talk about responsibility
gtfoh - foofightrs777, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3No, muscle is significantly more dense than fat, smart guy. Gravity does not miraculously discriminate between muscle and fat and exert a greater force on muscle.
Muscle density: 1.06 g/ml
Fat density: ~0.9 g/ml - arbulus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3So anyone who doesn't meet your personal standards of "success at life" are worthy of scorn? Who appointed you God?
- Phayde415, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3That quote is from the episode where Dr. Kelso decides to take on a patient again for the first time in several years and his patient is the obese woman with the Blackberry phone. It was his final speech to her after Dr. Cox told him that patients don't respect doctors anymore and he had to speak from his heart if they would listen. Cox wasn't in that scene.
- johnny2k, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Here is johnny2k's 2 cents: Excercise. When my wife died in February 2004, I weighed 185-190. I had not excercised in years. Well, I began excercising, and keeping to a good diet. I lost 40 lbs by June of that year. I ran three miles 3 times a week. I walked everywhere, too, as I didn't have a car. Three years later, I have added 10 lbs, but it is muscle weight. I continue to get a lot of excercise. Believe me, it is what works. Let me repeat: EXCERCISE!!!!
PS - Do not allow current health issues BE AN EXCUSE. You will actually find that the opposite will happen by excercising - those health issues will actually improve and even disappear. I've suffered with fibromyalgia for years, but found that the more I excercise, the better I feel overall! No excuses! - ddxChrist, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3No offense really taken, but I've been through it to some degree or another. I ate poorly, and had a higher than acceptable body fat percentage. After I took biology and human anatomy and physiology in High School, I decided I had enough information to take control of my situation. I'm now in excellent physical condition.
I owe most of my original problem to my own ignorance. Fortunately, I quelled it while still in my youth. Others can do the same. We can help by improving the availability of information in school and for everyone else as well (kids take on their parents habits). Taking action isn't easy, but it's the best way to start. - mightyzug, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3people can develop willpower.
and this whole 'powerless over your addiction' BS sounds like a load of touchy feel good lame ass excuse to me. i have dealt with addiction and would never, nor would i ever suggest anyone do any kind of 12 step program. just stop ***** doin it. one step. end of story. no support groups, no crying boo hoo i am powerless over my addiction, no dwelling on it in a room full of people with the same problem... just stop doin it.
if my dad can stop a 30 year alcohol addiction and i can stop a 10 year nicotine/drug addiction both cold turkey with this amazing new method, then so can you! for a simple one time fee of $99.95, we will send you a detailed brochure that outlines everything you need to succeed in this highly effective one step program. :P - AxeSwinger, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I found myself at 35, 340lbs and diabetic. Well, "found" is not the right word because I earned every pound (god I love cake). The diabeities woke me up partly because my wife had just given birth to our first child. So in an effort to live better and longer I went on a pretty radical diet, for me.
Portion control. I follow the food pyramid now and try not to eat any more than what a single recomended portion of a food is for any meal. I also eat much slower than I used to. It takes me 20-30 minutes to eat rather than the five it used to before. My general rules are I can eat anything but meals can not be over 300 calories (4 times/day) and snacks are under 200 calories (3 times/day) I also keep my carb count to 22 grams per meal but thats because of the diabetes. It has not been easy but it works for me. -
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