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- DeathJux, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18Schizophrenia is chaos unbound (with chaos being order on an incomprehensible [potentially infinite] level)... most psychoactive drugs induce a similar state, and, while most people can't handle it, those that can handle it harness an amazing amount of cognitive power... the only problem is that when you surf such chaos, staying above it, and retaining your own mental order, becomes an increasingly difficult challenge with time.
- funkytaco, on 10/18/2007, -1/+11Hmm, the link got clipped. If this doesn't work, try googling "schizophrenia painting cats"
http://instruct1.cit.cornell.edu/courses/nbb421/st ... - flashback99, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9This article hit the nail on the head - every mental disorder has positive and negative effects.
When it's negative we class it as an illness and when it's positive we don't get chance to diagnose it or it is overlooked.
I was diagnosed with schizophrenia and the drugs were hell. I actually stopped taking the meds because they messed me up pretty bad. We need to remove the social stigma of mental disorders, like the guy says. - Mcwop, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Schizophrenia can also be a very debilitating condition too. If a family member has it bad, then good luck getting help/diagnosis since involuntary commitment is nearly impossible. Living this ugly situation now. We don't even know where she is right now.
- cresswga, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6I thought this was debunked recently. Although the artist did paint all of the pictures there is no evidence as to the order they were painted in. Also, the "normal" looking cats were the deviation from his usual style.
The doctor who wrote the study put the paintings in this order to support his hypothesis. - gotterdammerung, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7I thought "phrenos" had something to do with the mind, or at least the head. For instance, that pseudoscience phrenology - wasn't that about interpreting the bumps on people's heads?
- Subvexer, on 10/25/2007, -1/+5Yeah, I think outside the box.
Now there's no box in my life. - vat0r, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Not all schizophrenics hallucinate, at least not in a physical sense. The biggest obstacle for me personally has been feelings of affliction from outside forces I cannot see or understand.
- manicallday, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4You need to fix your link
- robwilkens, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I underwent thorough testing -- About 5 days worth of intense tests, and the results were that I was diagnosed Schizoaffective, which means that schizophrenia is also causing affective symptoms which are things like depression and mania. Phrenos does mean "mind" and "heart" the reason for that is the ancient greeks used to believe your mind was in your heart.
- biggaayal, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3"I personally believe that we are at the very beginning of having a true understanding of schizophrenia and its symptoms." Yet quite the opposite is true, as scientists increasingly focus on biological aspects like neurotransmitters and genes. Mainstream science is forgetting more then methods from Karl Popper allow them to learn. We are actually getting stupider and diagnosis is actually done by seeing if medication works or not. GO pfizer!
- inactive, on 10/16/2007, -0/+3Harsh words, but understandable. Schizophrenia has been romanticized far too much by the media, who would have us all suppose that schizophrenics are great artists and mathematicians. The truth of the illness is severe and almost always much uglier.
- jcaino, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3bi-polar disorder can also result in hallucinations - mostly auditory though.
- saisumimen, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3... and the reason why those drugs are illegal. Not to be coarse, but "we" feel the need to protect the lowest common denominator: It's the reason why we put warning labels on coffee so that "they" know it's hot.
As a result, these people ruined it for the rest of us.
On a slight tangent, this is why I still believe people should be able to get a license to buy and use these drugs. Here me out... you must pass a few simple tests that show you have common sense and are not a complete smacktard. You must also have a job and pass a background check (no felonies) to show you won't go around selling/be high at every waking moment. You can smoke after work and on the weekends/days off just like alcohol, and those who are irresponsible get their card revoked!
(P.S: I'll be running for president in about 20 years ;p) - biggaayal, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Hallucinations are not a clear indication of schizofrenia. It is often a symptom, but every normal person is capable of hallucinating and normally will during his life. Ever thought you heard something, but then you decided you didn't? Congratulations, you just hallucinated.
- fixty, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I was wondering last night if Schizophrenia might be caused by fault in the mechanism of the brain controlling dream-states - leading to erroneously triggering dream-states during full consciousness - hence the hallucinations...
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I have always had a theory that we are dreaming all the time - while being awake too. The Reticular activating system or something prevents the dream signals from reaching the conscious mind when we are awake. Sometime and in some conditions they do seep in - dejavu, inspirations .. maybe even what you just proposed.
- BionicSeraph, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I've read about this guy before. The article was about how the paintings of the cats are arbitrarily arranged and no one really knows what order he painted them. Check out this article for more: http://www.boingboing.net/2006/02/22/schizophrenia ...
(it's down at the bottom) - mahdaeng, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1FTA: [[Unfortunately psychiatry leans far more towards controlling schizophrenia, rather than showing understanding towards a patient's true needs and potential capabilities.
There needs to be far more emphasis on working with the symptoms. A far greater holistic approach needs to be adopted. ]]
This is why psychology tends to be better than psychiatry in dealing with such disorders. - datastorageguy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2 "Other daily symptoms, such as depression, suicidal thoughts, the feeling of being controlled by outside forces, paranoia and fear of persecution, have made life very difficult to cope with."
Must be a truther. - Shakermaker, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Dugg down because your link is broken
- biggaayal, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3It probably means both.
Also he is probably diagnosed wrongly. There aren't many real schizofrenics on digg I bet. - radneg1, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Kudos to him for fighting through it and seeking out a positive way to conquer his illness. Positive thinking can definitely go a long way.
- saisumimen, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Not to mention, newer research has shown that some of those "cat" paintings were done out of the order they present them. (Poor bastard rarely, if ever, dated his work)
- lkhendrickson, on 11/27/2008, -0/+1i thought they did a really good job
- cazbot, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I think that much of the severity of the impact of schizophrenia on a person's life has to do with the age of onset. I suspect that those who are afflicted later deal with it better than those afflicted earlier. The idea being that the more time you've had to lead a sane life the more coping skills you'll have developed for when your life becomes insane.
- robwilkens, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2I'd like to add under my own comments that starting this week there's a movie playing in 5 cities called "Canvas" (canvasthefilm.com) which is about a schizophrenic -- it's based on a true story. If the movie does well, supposedly it will be released to 200 more cities.
- deeauds, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1the artist's name is Louis Wain
http://www.cerebromente.org.br/gallery/gall_leonar ... - biggaayal, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Close enough probably, but only you reduce the human to his brain. It is not a fault in a mechanism. The human isn't a mechanism. Nor is it a computer/machine. A person is much more complicated then this.
- brainScan, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1"The symptoms have been very disabling and destructive and have included psychosis (delusion and hallucinations) which is understood to be a disturbance of sensory perception and creates the inability to recognise reality from the unreal.
- Other daily symptoms, such as depression, suicidal thoughts, the feeling of being controlled by outside forces, paranoia and fear of persecution, have made life very difficult to cope with.
- There is also the stigma and discrimination attached to the condition, especially the perceived link to violence - less than 1% of those diagnosed are violent towards others. "
I think I'd live without creativity any day, rather than end up with schizophrenia. - natedouglas, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Alright, ***** DIGG for cutting out everything I wrote after the less-than sign. Nutbusters.
- termeric, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1funky taco, this is the first thing that i though of when i saw the headline.
this guys work is intense - ricepudd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"No suitable nodes are available to serve your request." - I'd always considered the BBC site to be big enough to handle the digg effect. Obviously not!
- skullfuc, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7037314.stm - robwilkens, on 10/12/2007, -12/+10Speaking as a Schizophrenic, I'd like to note that Schiz in greek means Shatterred and Phrenos in greek means Heart. So, when you say Schizophrenia, you're kind-of saying Broken Heart disease. This isn't so much a genetic illness as a set of symptoms that builds up over time when you have a broken heart. Yes, the kinds of thoughts you have can lead to creativity, poetry and all that jazz, I agree.
- okmon, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0I got Quadrophenia from eBay, so can I be special too?
- hulez, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1the logic behind this all is that Schizophrenics only have a right brain where logic cannot exist thus contradicting logic. TRUST ME.
- manicallday, on 10/11/2007, -8/+1I'm bipolar and I all I have to say is that although what I go through is a bitch, I am so grateful not to be schizophrenic. I just couldn't imagine. If I have a bad day I either stay inside or do some really stupid stuff. But, at least I don't have to deal with hallucinations. How tormenting can that be? I would rather die than go through half of the symptoms of schizophrenia.
- funkytaco, on 10/11/2007, -11/+3MUCH more interesting artist affected by schizophrenia:
http://instruct1.cit.cornell.edu/courses/nbb421/st ...
His drawing of cats went from cutesy, to comical; psychedelic, to indistinguishable! - cygnus2112, on 10/18/2007, -13/+4I was going to make a goofy comment. The voices told me not to, but I'm much more clever.
- nexah3, on 10/12/2007, -12/+1Russel Crowe, nooooooo
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