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- UncleCrapper, on 12/19/2008, -6/+33Oddly enough, facts don't care what you think.
- kingmanic, on 12/19/2008, -0/+10Confirmation bias: If you believe something then every positive indication of it is remembered while negative evidence is ignored.
They did double blind studies with sugar kids and parents and the biggest factor was if the Parents THOUGHT the kids were on sugar. That's pretty conclusive. Anecdotes are not. Sugar by itself will not cause hyper kids. Hyper kids in a period of low blood sugar (for instance a hour before supper) will perk up when given sugar but it's not the sugar which is making them hyper. - mengland, on 12/19/2008, -5/+15Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that sugar made children go wild. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow.
- docjunkie, on 12/19/2008, -6/+16Cure a hangover? It is called self-medicating with our friend "medical" marijuana.
- rye419, on 12/19/2008, -0/+9actually even five hundred years ago, mostly everyone knew the earth was round.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth#Modern_tim ... - BadAshe86, on 12/19/2008, -5/+13Odd how none of the examples in the description are in the article. Also odd how I've read studies in various health magazines that disagree with these studies.
- DKNUCKLES, on 12/19/2008, -1/+9"6. Hangovers can be cured.
The researchers found no scientific evidence supporting any type of cure for alcohol hangovers. Because hangovers are caused by drinking too much alcohol, the only way to avoid one is to drink very little or not at all."
*****. Whoever wrote this never tried drinking Gatorade or inhaling oxygen out of an oxygen tank the morning after a long night. - mengland, on 12/19/2008, -0/+7It's also that situations where children usually have a lot of sugar are typically high-energy situations; Birthday parties, holiday events, etc.
- sleze, on 12/19/2008, -1/+8Meh. I remember as a kid getting all crazy AFTER having candy or soda.
I am curious about their controlled studies.... - RobotBuddha, on 12/19/2008, -0/+7There's a reason medical studies are blinded. Expectations of the person administering something, not to mention that of the recipient, make the resulting observations useless.
- MisterEX, on 12/19/2008, -0/+6Ha, my buddy does that all the time. I call it cheating.
- bigox25, on 12/19/2008, -8/+14caffeine maybe, greed more likely. it's the want of the candy that makes them crazy. not the candy.
- NoQuarter, on 12/19/2008, -0/+6It doesn't take too much effort to go to the BMJ article and scroll down to the references.
To make it even easier the article's right here: http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/337/dec17_2/a2 ... - DaFunk, on 12/19/2008, -1/+6Wow, six dispelled medical "myths" that a member of the medical community (myself, at least) actually agrees with. This is a first for the internets. Although I wonder how many people are relieved to see that Poinsettias are non-toxic to humans? Are that many people either tempted to, or currently eating Poinsettia salads during the holidays?
- imasuperDOTcom, on 12/19/2008, -5/+10Says the 19 year old kid on Digg.
[Viewed profile] - CDollars, on 12/19/2008, -1/+6"...the only way to avoid one is to drink very little or not at all."
Well, where's the fun in that? - Merp08, on 12/19/2008, -1/+6I just take some morphine.
- pbhj, on 12/19/2008, -0/+4We run a business that hosts many children's parties. I've also been a cub scout leader and run church children's groups. So I've seen my share, and then some, of children in high-energy situations. When we started the business one of the party drink options was "coca cola", it isn't anymore!
I suspect what most parents observe is the effect of other additives in sweets and drinks - presumably the tests just used sugar - and they conclude the effect is the sugaryness not the other chemicals: caffeine / guarana (same thing) being an obvious one, sunset yellow and others being less obvious
http://www.theecologist.org/pages/archive_detail.a ...
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and ...
At the parties we host the noise and hyperactivity level increases through the party. We eat at the end and the kids are reaching a climax of activity by the end; apparently (if the article is right) this is coincidental to having just had cake and sweets a few minutes before, but I think there's some causation there.
My personal experience is that sometimes I need to boost my perceived "energy" levels and sugary food or drink will temporarily perk me up. - MisterEX, on 12/19/2008, -0/+4"1. Hangovers aren't directly a result of drinking alcohol, they're a result of letting the body become dehydrated. I'd like to conduct a study which involves me getting wasted, passing out, then someone putting an IV in me to keep my bloodstream "hydrated". I bet it'd work."
Actually it's far more complicated than that. It's not simple dehydration/rehydration. The first problem is that there is very little to no definitive medical documentation to actually show what causes a hangover and, therefore, even less to show how to cure it.
Getting drunk is, for better or worse, the poisoning of your body. Alcohol enters your bloodstream at a rapid rate, immediately affecting your frontal lobe. All symptoms of hangovers stem from your body's attempts to process alcohol and rid your system of it.
Dehydration is not the only cause of hangovers. A lesser-known, but equally serious cause is congeners. Congeners are toxic chemicals that are created during the alcohol fermentation process. They give flavor, smell and appearance to alcohol and exist in varying amounts in different liquors. Unfortunately, congeners are also the main cause of the notorious hangover headache.
There's even more to it when dealing with your dopamine and inhibitors and chemical balances in your brain that your body tries to re-establish the next day. Simply just drinking a giant Gatorade will not necessarily rid you of your hangover woes.
About the article though - No citations, no facts, merely mythology trying to trump mythology. Give me scientific, medical documentation, please. - inactive, on 12/19/2008, -2/+6love to see how much the suicide rate THIS holiday season skews the established average...
- ngmcs8203, on 12/19/2008, -0/+4Wow, way to miss the joke Neuralphreak and BoneheadFarker
- hiro, on 12/19/2008, -0/+4Seeing as it's British, can we not call it the "holiday season". Ugh
- notmv80, on 12/19/2008, -0/+4There have been a few Sunday mornings in which I wish I had an IV of saline solution and electrolytes. Something tells me that'll help.
- zip000, on 12/19/2008, -0/+4My wife loves this fact. Every time any one mentions sugar and hyperactivity (or anything tangentially related) she'll go on about how it isn't true and in some cultures sugar has been used to calm kids down.
- zantos420, on 12/19/2008, -1/+4"6. Hangovers can be cured.
The researchers found no scientific evidence supporting any type of cure for alcohol hangovers."
from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangover
"Ethanol has a dehydrating effect by causing increased urine production (diuresis), which causes headaches, dry mouth, and lethargy. Dehydration also causes fluids in the brain to be less plentiful. This can be mitigated by drinking water or an oral electrolyte solution after consumption of alcohol."
"However, drinking a large amount of water or a rehydration drink prior to sleep will effectively reduce a large proportion of the symptoms. This increases the need to urinate in the relevant timeline, thus cleaning the body and ridding it of many chemicals more quickly, including those that cause or heighten hangover symptoms."
When I am hung over I drink two 'revive' vitamin waters, smoke a bowl, then drink more water until my headache goes away. problem solved. - groo68, on 12/20/2008, -0/+3Rye that's true, but it's a quote from men in black.
- kingmanic, on 12/19/2008, -0/+3Probably related more to kids chomping on the plants. Since the sap is white and milky it would tend to inspire a panic reflex in parents.
- humperdeath, on 12/19/2008, -1/+4I know, what's next? How about hours of music coming form a matchbook sized metal box! hah!!!! Silly humans
- locondcoco, on 12/19/2008, -0/+3cuz they've already been published in an earlier article. (last year)
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/26/medical-m ... - shorterchild, on 12/19/2008, -0/+3called "hair of the dog"
- ravenmuffin, on 12/19/2008, -0/+3It could be what the sugar is packaged with which is causing the correlation. Certain food additives are known to cause hyperactivity.
If foods which you think of as sugar foods result in hyper kids, then they could well be doing it, it's just not actually the sugar which is the culprit. - clickwir, on 12/19/2008, -0/+25. Night eating makes you fat.
No, eating at night or late has not have a direct effect on fatness. How inactive you are, does. So in other words, technically this statement is right. But since you are less active at night, and that's when people want to snack more (I want to) ... one can come to the simple statement that night eating makes you fat. Or at least can play a key role in weight gain. - duderdude, on 12/19/2008, -0/+2Actually, dehydration is only part of hangovers. An intermediate metabolic product called acetaldehyde can make you feel sick to your stomach, even after all the alcohol is gone. No matter how hydrated you are, it will take some time to convert the alcohol to acetaldehyde, and then acetaldehyde to something less toxic.
Sugar is not concentrated energy. It is un-concentrated energy. That makes it faster to digest and get into the blood stream, but it has much less energy than the same amount of complex carbohydrates, or fat. - Boshow, on 12/19/2008, -10/+12"6. Hangovers can be cured."
-I beg to differ. I've cured many a hangover. It just takes 2 beers. - NoQuarter, on 12/19/2008, -0/+2Awesome referencing there. Why didn't the authors of the BMJ article think of wikipedia?
- douglasr007, on 12/19/2008, -1/+3WHOOSH
- sloonark, on 12/20/2008, -0/+2Read the first two words of the description.
- newmanium2001, on 12/19/2008, -0/+2I swear I've read this exact same article on a different news site ...
- zip000, on 12/19/2008, -1/+3That's why they're debunking them, because we believe these things to be true - we've even built up stories and defense to back up our beliefs - but they are not.
Your yelling about them doesn't change the results.
Also, the article clearly says that with some there is no evidence to support the myth and with others there is evidence that it isn't true...this means that some of the 6 things might actually be true...there just isn't any evidence to show that they are. - ravenmuffin, on 12/19/2008, -0/+2It's just saying that the head doesn't lose any more heat than any other area of skin. The myth was that "most heat was lost through the head."
Wearing a hat would stop heat loss through the head, but if you didn't wear a coat at the same time, you'd lose the heat through your upper body instead. - BoneheadFarker, on 12/19/2008, -1/+3You smoke a bowl after drinking? Are you ***** insane? When I try that, within 30 seconds I'm on the floor with the room spinning around me.
- Frosty122, on 12/19/2008, -0/+2could it be not the sugar in the coke, but the caffeine?
- MothBoy, on 12/19/2008, -0/+2Did you actually read the article?????
First, they said that you absolutely do lose heat through your head so your premise is wrong, just that you don't lose more than any other exposed part of your body, and second, they specifically addressed your backpacking scenario since you are most likely bundled from feet to shoulders in boots, pants, shirts and jackets so that your head is the only place you could lose substantial heat. - edwartica, on 12/19/2008, -0/+2Either that, or your real name is Mr Buzzkillington.
- imasuperDOTcom, on 12/18/2008, -17/+19Um... I don't care wtf this article says. Sugar makes children go wild-man-of-Borneo insane and every parent knows it.
- inactive, on 12/20/2008, -0/+1thanks shorterchild, I knew that one just could not remember it... it was starting to bug me horribly so thnx
- inactive, on 12/19/2008, -0/+1No, it just distracts you from it.
- edwartica, on 12/19/2008, -0/+1Maybe its a subconscious thing.
- Amadeus2490, on 12/21/2008, -0/+1"6. Hangovers can be cured.
The researchers found no scientific evidence supporting any type of cure for alcohol hangovers. Because hangovers are caused by drinking too much alcohol, the only way to avoid one is to drink very little or not at all."
*****. A hangover is advanced dehydration and toxicity of the liver. Try drinking some lemon water. - av4rice, on 12/19/2008, -0/+1Different news site, but same content
front page yesterday
http://digg.com/health/No_Need_to_Wear_a_Hat_and_N ... -
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