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- sockpuppets, on 08/29/2008, -13/+84I have reservations about reading this article. Is the server running apache? I keep having a recurring dream that I'm a wigwam, then a tipi.
I think I'm just two tents. - dOOBiEx213, on 08/29/2008, -4/+36They SHOULD get over it. It's not like they were raped or nearly wiped off the face of the planet... oh wait.
- CandidateZero, on 08/29/2008, -3/+31The old chief said the white man's fire water was a bad sign.
- inactive, on 08/29/2008, -13/+39Yes, it's such a shame that they're being forced at gunpoint to drink.
- inactive, on 08/29/2008, -15/+37Three Words "Get over it." my great great great great grandfather was a slave.
- tehmarko, on 08/29/2008, -4/+24WOW. You just won the internet.
- inactive, on 08/29/2008, -2/+18I'm Ron Burgundy?
- Cwolf267, on 08/29/2008, -9/+25Why do people still talk like we took their land 5 years ago? They're Americans, the white man isn't forcing them to stay on a reservation, and they have the same rights we all have.
- jaxter2010, on 06/17/2009, -17/+32Hell if the same thing that happened to them, happened to me, I would probably be led to drink as well.
- inactive, on 08/29/2008, -0/+15I'm native Canadian--Cree--and I don't think it's all 'we lived a bad life'. Natives have zero alcohol tolerance, and most of the world has, through generations, built a natural tolerance AND biological defense with alcohol. As a result, and combined with us being prone to diabetes--since alcohol releases an explosion of sugar from the liver, and this sugar explosion in part makes us happy and energetic--alcohol is very addictive for natives. I know from experience that booze to me feels -very- good, and I'd take it over heroin, weed... but it also turns me into a manic. Most wouldn't be able to understand this, because they are born with natural defenses, and to them booze is half, even less, the strength, depressive and pleasure wise, it is to you than it is to us.
My Grandfather, who was lucky enough to be born to an oil rich family--yes, a few natives become oil tycoons too, in Canada--grew up under fairly wealthy circumstances, and had a very solid, high paying job, but even with this, he had to deal with his alcoholism until he finally stopped drinking completely in his 30's. I can't even imagine how you'd deal with it if you lived in poverty and had a horrible life... booze is to us like meth is to white folks, terribly addictive and very destructive. I've had trouble with it myself, and I'm not growing up in poverty at all. It's just everywhere, sold in in every district, drank at parties, served at restaurants, advertised on the TV and net... I have to very consciously put a strong effort to keep myself away from it, because I know if I fall, I will fall hard. Alcohol just feels so ***** good. - jayjay80, on 08/29/2008, -9/+24Well don't drink then?
- sinurgy, on 08/29/2008, -6/+21Nothing happened to *them*, it happened to their ancestors a looooong time ago. It's time to put down the crutch and accept some responsibility for their condition.
I have one small bit of advice...GET THE HELL OFF THE RESERVATION! Seriously, all that place does is suck you down into nothingness. You can assimilate into the mainstream culture and make something of yourself without "forgetting where you come from". Don't fall for the crab bucket mentality! - inactive, on 08/29/2008, -7/+21WTF?
NOT random at all!
Alcoholism is killing our Native Americans. Life on MOST reservations is depressing and hard.
Yeah, I've been on a couple reservations in New Mexico, and I was outraged.
The way America treats it's native peoples is revolting. - CyrusG, on 08/29/2008, -0/+12With your lineage, I'm amazed you don't have more sympathy or perspective. It's not their great great great great grandfathers... in Canada, at least, (I can't imagine US is vastly different) residential schools served as mini-prisons until roughly the late 50s. The youth that lived in these schools were abused, raped, marginalized and even diseased… unsurprisingly, this led most to alcoholism. Those youth are now the parents of today’s youth. So what do you expect? Transcending cultural issues and depression is not easy… it took (rather, is taking) the African-Americans many years to move forward.
And there’s reasons beyond tax-breaks that keep Native Americans on their reserves. Unlike the rest of us, culture, tradition and family are paramount to them. They’d rather not be assimilated into the rest of the US. - goon5000, on 08/29/2008, -0/+12I'd scalp tickets to that event
- mantis108, on 08/29/2008, -2/+13The other 9: Cowboys.
- magneteye, on 08/29/2008, -2/+12Disease was a part of it, yes. But the Europeans came through and wiped out villages form coast to coast without remorse. Men, women and children. Do yourself a favor and do some research.
- inactive, on 08/29/2008, -1/+10The Spanish killed the Indians in Mexico and South America, specifically the Mayans, Incas, and Aztecs. The English settlers were the ones who killed the "Native Americans". And it wasn't all by mass genocide a lot of it was small pox which wasn't intentional.
- aahamedi, on 08/29/2008, -1/+10a topic brought up in this season finale of 30 days. I recommend everyone go give it a look, really put into perspective how bad we have ***** and are currently ***** over the Native Americans.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/26682/30-days-life-on-an ... - Br3ach, on 08/29/2008, -0/+9Way to get your ducks in arrow
- TexasShiv, on 08/29/2008, -0/+9What else is there to do on the reservation?
- inactive, on 08/29/2008, -0/+9Wouldn't it be closer to 1 in 9 if its almost 12%?
- CobaltBlue, on 08/29/2008, -1/+10I think that the bad reservations are bad because they stuck them out in the middle of nowhere with no natural resources. There are also some very nice reservations where they make a ton of money off of gambling and tourism.
- connieLingus, on 08/29/2008, -1/+9it would be interesting to study the genetics behind this phenomenon.
- sklter84, on 08/29/2008, -2/+10Digg is full of white suburban middle class kids, they just don't know what effects racial perceptions and history has on an ethnic person. Things that happen hundreds of years ago easily have an effect on people now since it weighs down on their entire being. This is far different from Jews and the Holocaust since the evils of that event have been beaten down into everyone in the Western world while no gives a ***** about the Native Americans. They also have some of the highest rates of being rape victims(from white men going to their land and raping women since there's very little law enforcement) and suicide rates. Are you just going to act hardcore over the internet and tell them to stop getting raped and killing themselves? Grow up kids.
- FasmTrout, on 08/29/2008, -2/+10We should push for internet comments to become a new Olympic event, or at least start some sort of competition surrounding commenting.
- biogears, on 08/29/2008, -0/+8You can feel guilty for your own actions all you want, but if you're going to feel guilty for your ancestors, you got a lot a of guilt to deal with.
- bfitt, on 08/29/2008, -1/+9This is a problem that should be taken seriously and dugg up so people realize this is a very real issue in Native American communities. It's sad that Americans make jokes about a serious issue affecting these people when WE were the ones who put them in this position. Australia and Canada have both apologized to their indigenous people and it's about time the US did the same.
- hammerpants, on 08/29/2008, -0/+7That's strange. In my experience, shooting paint balls and bb guns at drunk minorities has always yielded the precise intended result.
- jakerudy7, on 08/29/2008, -3/+10i still hate msn
- OneLess, on 08/29/2008, -2/+9Hell yeah, the past has absolutely no bearing on the present!
- rowlodge, on 08/29/2008, -0/+7well i know how digg jokes about everything but to tell you the truth we Native Americans don't think about wanting our land back, thats just a myth the white establishment tells each other which has only reinforced it over time.
- LeCollectif, on 08/29/2008, -0/+6The apology, genuine or not, was nothing short of lip service.
Canada: "Sorry Natives!"
Natives: "Thanks. Now we can stop drinking anti-freeze, berating people on the street, starting fights, damaging public property, and pull up our socks, get a job and live normally." - ACiDGRiM, on 08/29/2008, -2/+89 in 10 Native American deaths non-alcohol related.
- inactive, on 08/29/2008, -1/+7"Since when does America accept racism against Native Americans?"
Since America exists. Look at the comments getting dugg up.
Say the same thing about jews or black people and you'd get banned.
It's perfectly fine to make such idiotic comments as they "have rights like the rest of us". As if they chose to live that way.
Natives, especially in the north, live in a broken society.
You guys act like they were displaced three hundred years ago. You stole their land last century and you're stealing it right now. They don't own anything and were placed in economically worthless areas. ***** patches of dirt.
Perfectly fine to sell land you don't own to private companies, because its owned by an ethnic group none of you respect or even understand.
Plus you know nothing of them or of their current situation. ***** casinos, yeah that's real good for the health of a society. - BTConan, on 08/29/2008, -3/+9He died drunk one mornin'
Alone in the land he fought to save
Two inches of water in a lonely ditch
Was a grave for Ira Hayes - CobaltBlue, on 08/29/2008, -0/+6Couldn't the tribal governments legalize it? That would make for some great tourism dollars.
- thegrantman, on 08/29/2008, -1/+7Did you shoot paintballs at them BEFORE they broke your windshield? :)
- inactive, on 08/29/2008, -0/+5Please, tell us more about the "nature" of natives.
- FolkTheory, on 08/29/2008, -5/+10why is life on the reserve's bad? i'm seriously asking, i thought they get to live there in their traditional ways without being disturbed by all the crap that plagues us in the outside world. but obviously they're not living very traditionally, this is a surprise to me.
- GovernmentsGun, on 08/29/2008, -1/+6Well, we had to replace it with something when we diverted the rivers.
- Slugo, on 08/29/2008, -1/+6I live close to a few different Indian Reservations here in So. Calif. and they have all built casino's on them. Some very big and popular. Most of the residents are receiving checks from $8,000.00 to $20,000 .00 per person. for doing nothing but being an Indian. Very rarely do I find any of them that are taking this money and make someting of their lives. Most live in the same shack they have there whole lives ....blue tarps on the roof to keep water from leaking in. They buy Cadillac Escalades and develope a drinking problem or get hooked on speed and heroin. IT PROVES .....THROWING MONEY AT THE PROBLEM WILL NOT SOLVE IT . and I think that article estimate is very low
- inactive, on 08/29/2008, -6/+11I don't wanna sound like a racist bastard but this doesn't really surprise me at all.
- LeCollectif, on 08/29/2008, -1/+6In Canada, not well. Not well at all.
- bigtimslim, on 08/29/2008, -0/+5stubborn nature.. wow
- magneteye, on 08/29/2008, -4/+9Wow, I am amazed a the ignorant people that dugg down my previous comment.
Ignore history and the fact that the Europeans committed the absolute largest genocide in the history of the world. Do some research and learn the truth. No, you won't find this information in your history books for obvious reasons. - inactive, on 08/30/2008, -0/+5well then: indulge yourself
i'm not here on digg or on this planet to please or appease you - DonCasablanca, on 08/29/2008, -0/+5Correction: "More than 1 in *9* Native American deaths alcohol related"
Unless 11.7% has slipped down the number line without me noticing ... - jd33, on 08/29/2008, -0/+4salmon
- fantastcandy10, on 08/29/2008, -1/+5I'm not being cold, but I'm pretty sure most of the initial deaths were disease related. For the same reason you might explain prevalent alcoholism.
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