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- PathDaemon, on 10/12/2007, -3/+61Yes, but will it blend?
- 022A, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3310 years later...
Zymologist Jr: "Look dad, no hands!"
Zymologist: "No, I won't look. Your statement is inaccurate. You do in fact have hands and used those hands to get your bike up to speed. Whether you are now using said hands to oper..."
Zymologist Jr: "What the ***** is wrong with you?" - amal8301, on 10/12/2007, -2/+32I will be getting one and I don't own a 360.
- klawz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+30@tech101 - sony Betamax was better technology too, and VHS won.
- Vigile, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27Thanks! Too bad cable routing isn't one of my skills. :)
- 2wicky, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26This is a really cool. You got a killer set up there dude!
- andreo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18O.K. without special drivers. But I think if you can plug it in, have the OS recognize it, and not have to search around for drivers to load then that's close enough.
- bobsmith11, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16I just ordered one via Newegg and waiting for some one else to rip it apart and put it in their computer before I do mine!
- tech101, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16HD DVD is definatly going to dominate even though the blue-ray is said to be a better technology because sony is being greedy and trying to charge outragous prices think about it $200 vs. $600-$1000
- Spoonicus, on 10/12/2007, -5/+19HAH!! now this is what i'm talking about!! (and THANK YOU for posting to the main article and not to some douche bags blog eg: http://www.digg.com/apple/Xbox360_HD_DVD_Player_is_Compatible_with_Mac#c3855897 )
- zymologist, on 11/10/2007, -9/+22title is inaccurate. nothing works without drivers, just because it uses ones that come with windows doesn't mean it's not using drivers
- alwaysmc2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13Why would you do that? If you leave it the way it is then the drive maintains its mobility, so you can take it to a friends house, on vacation, etc.
- exobyte, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13This REALLY sticks it to Blu-Ray. The price on this thing is actually reasonable, especailly considering HD-DVD is less than a year old.
- klawz, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13This may be because that comment wasn't (isn't) spam, avsforums is a VERY good forum for video nerds, and I've learned A HELL OF A LOT from it, why is it being dug down? Becuase of ignorance (in the nicest sense of the word). Digg probably can't figure out a system to determine if the person is too lazy to read the original article, or click on a link, or do any other type of investigation before making assumptions.
- xxrazor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11I think its 500+, which makes the xbox 360's HD-DVD worth it
- interiot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Holy *****, AVSforum is not spam. A lot of seriously informed (and well-funded) HD geeks hang out there, I've learned a ton from that place. Read the bleeping thread, it's more informative than anything else said or linked from here.
- Ryosen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Take it on vacation? What, do I have to buy it dinner and meet its parents, too?
- Stonedonkey, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Before you guys go flying off to Amazon or whomever, don't forget to factor in an HDCP-compliant video card (around $150). Otherwise, you can't use it with your PC. With or without the drivers.
- Vigile, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I am debating ripping it apart as we speak...its sooooo pretty though. :)
- MackPrime, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8rip it!
this is such a clever move by Microsoft, if you think about it, not a lot of products are this up to date and cross platform between a console (maybe two) and home PCs. - M4tt3r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Darth, he said "video card". I don't know if he could have been any clearer.
- kualla, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9I think for video formats go, neither one is really all that great (with downloadable content and cheap HDD's out).
But as far as computer's go, I think blueray currently is a great storage medium.
But then again, they say by years end HOLOGRAPHIC DVD should be available with storage starting at 300gb's per disc and getting up to 1.6 TERABYTES!!!
http://www.cybertechhelp.com/news/article/584
I can't wait till I can put my entire movie collection onto a single disc along with every song I ever heard, the ultimate media disc. - exobyte, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Ok.. agreed. The cool thing is that it's just a normal USB HD-DVD drive when plugged into a computer, not which computer.
- Keropipi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7how much does a blu-ray drive cost?
- Muyoso, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6You can take comfort in knowing that no Sony format has ever prevailed.
- andreo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7@exobyte:
Its a lot less then the first 1X speed DVD burner I bought years ago (Pioneer A1). - Muyoso, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4What if I don't like this "logic" you speak of?
- venom8599, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4You can at least use it with analog connections. If they've already put the HDCP restrictions into effect (I recall somewhere an article that said the studios were going to hold back on that) then you just won't be able to view the video over a digital connection, unless every component (Drive->GPU->Montior) supports HDCP, but you can still use analog connections.
- cyrusthevirus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Err, of course it works natively under Windows XP... The hardware is built by Toshiba and distibuted by Microsoft and the OS with the *amazing* native support for the hardware is none other than Microsoft's Windows XP. It doesn't suprise me one bit that they would support each other. It may not be advertised, but it does make sense that they would have the foresight to make it natively supported in WinXP. Makes you wonder though: does it hafta be SP2 (or an even more recent update), or have these Toshiba HDDVD drivers been in XP since 2002? That said, no, Linux would not natively support this hardware. Still, this is a very smart move on MS's part, and a pretty cool idea for the average Windows user wanting HD capability. Dugg for the concept.
- IncognitoCraven, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"cheapest and only", then it's also the most expensive.
- exobyte, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5In Apple?! Someone's trying to capitalize on the fanboy segment.
- Mr2001, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Well, look. The quality vs. size trade-off is a decision made by the ripper/encoder. If you want to preserve quality and don't mind having a big file, you can do that and produce a large AVI containing a perfect(*) quality rip, and that file will *still* be better than an HD-DVD or BluRay because you can play it just about anywhere without needing special video cards, software, and monitors designed to keep the signal hidden from you.
(* Yeah yeah, even just the act of transcoding may introduce some slight changes, but you won't notice if you're using human eyes to watch it.) - MidnightWatcher, on 10/12/2007, -22/+25Visit the link below and discuss on the AVS Forum as well. This rocks!
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8912890&&#post8912890 - kcpwnsgman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I said this back when the HD-DVD rom was 'hacked' to work on the pc, because I read that Microsoft said it wouldn't need the drivers.
- almighty, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I wonder if these magical drivers are in Linux already? If so, I will join the bandwagon of buying one.
- MoeWasHere, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Now I don't have to worry about not being able to play HD content with the Nintendo Wii ... just bye this drive for my PC and i'm done.
Thank you M$!! - manageMyRights, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2DivX (or XviD) MPEG-4 rips already are the video version of the mp3.
A good 800Mb XviD rip is just as good as a 4Gb+ DVD. It may not be perfect (as some won't even accept 320kbps mp3s over a CD) but its the right trade-off of size and quality for me.
Similarly, the half-res (960x540) HDTV rips are better than DVD quality at about 700Mb for an hour show. I expect soon we will see 1920x1080 rips of the latest movies they're releasing on HD-DVD/BluRay that are small files and still good enough for even the latest 1080p TVs.
The important part is getting this rips from the discs, which will always be possible for those who are determined and have knowledge of both software and hardware. - MidnightWatcher, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I have a strong feeling that Blu-Ray will NOT overtake HD DVD at all. Look at www.thedvdwars.com and you see the trend. HD DVD has more movies available today, has more available (including pre-order), and is outselling Blu-Ray considerably. On top of that, there are many more satisfied HD DVD owners than there are Blu-Ray owners, and this will continue to grow as well since in the eyes of J6P the next logical step in the evolution of DVD is HD DVD. It's familiar, unlike this "Blu-Ray" format.
I also have a feeling that as we see more wear and tear on Blu-Ray disks that you'll begin to see a lot of complaints of unreadable disks that cannot be repaired. The data surface of Blu-Ray disks is only 0.1 mm from the surface, whereas the data on an HD DVD is 0.6 mm from the surface. Although Blu-Ray disks have a 'harder' coating to prevent scratching, the fact remains that they still scratch and are much more susceptible to data loss than HD DVD and even standard DVD. This will come to light in due time, at which point they will have no choice but to use an even harder and more expensive coating. (Blu-Ray was originally intended to be a disk-in-a-cartridge format, and it should have remained that way, but the belief was that customers didn't want it as it would definitely add to the cost of the format).
Blu-Ray is an unproven technology that may sound good on paper, but in the real world will not gain mass share of the home video market like HD DVD likely will. The disks are more difficult to make, have lower yeilds, and more costly and in time will be shown to be more problematic.
Go for HD DVD. - MidnightWatcher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1He has the HD DVD version of PowerDVD. It will output the full 1920x1080 resolution.
- ozid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well good for me as I bought a new TV a month ago.
And my friend's "EDTV" only broadcasts in 480p so I won't be disappointed playing it there either. :P - Electrox3d, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2oh, and to xcrunner10, lol! "$600 for a ps3? no way!"
- empyreal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Where is the software when you need it. PowerDVD HD-DVD nor WinDVD HD are available yet. So I guess this drive makes a nice bookend for now, as I dont own a XBOX 360. (yes I know Jap 8 Windvd does 540p)
- Muyoso, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1??? You don't think they did this on purpose? Or are you saying that they either never tried it or that they hoped no one would check to make sure that Xbox360's USB is the same as their computers'?
- manageMyRights, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@spacejack
well no, but the uncompressed 1080p MPEG-4 won't take over the video world, just as the the uncompressed WAV isn't what makes up most peoples music collection. - aacidusX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i got mine for 159+tax at circuitcity, just use the $40 coupon http://www.dealspl.us/deal.php?dealid=12082
- MidnightWatcher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I just sold my non-HDCP eVGA e-Geforce 7900 GS for CA$200, and bought the HDCP-compliant (and faster) Asus X1950Pro for CA$202. :D
- Electrox3d, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2oh, and to xcrunner10, lol! "$600 for a ps3? no way!" ...you do realize, that an xbox 360 is bigger, louder, and more expensive than a ps3 when you have your xbox and hd-dvd drive sitting there, right?
(also, the xbox360 is bigger/louder even without the hd-dvd drive because the ps3 doesn't have that LARGE brick power supply to deal with) - millixaw, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Any word on getting the HD-DVD to work internally (in the 360)??
- Muyoso, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2*Plugs into PS3* and still cannot play video at 1080i
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