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- shinaku, on 10/12/2007, -11/+40"Think of the Possibilities."?
What possibilities? It's not as if DVDs are too thick as they are. I wonder how easily the 0.092mm thick discs are to snap? - OBSCENE, on 10/12/2007, -5/+26WOW 940 MB
- krux, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10You can have 1TB now if you stack up enough DVDs. that doesn't make it any better.
- gklitt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Remember though, if you have a cartridge of DVDs you cant just plug it into a computer...you have to have a device to read the DVDs. Also the discs are all separate so unless they developed some file-splitting technology you wouldn't be able to store, say, a 100GB file. In other words, a hard drive is probably more efficient since the data reading is built into the device.
- Kaioshin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I thought floppy disks were (becoming) a thing of the past...
- krosk, on 10/12/2007, -7/+14You obviously didn't read the article, the point is that they can stick at stack of 100 of these into a 2.5" case and have almost 1TB of storage. And they are obviously very flexible, if only you'd look at the picture....
- Ramble, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Since they are lighter, I assume that they could spin faster without shattering.
- solidcube, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Why are people modding this guy down? He's got a point; they could start putting these in magazines the way they did with those little vinyl things years ago. Maybe.
- dbpigeon, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8They still have the regular storage of a DVD, they just screwed up in writing the article by putting MB instead of GB.
"...digital library cartidge with almost 1TB of capacity (940MB)."
I have to wonder if they're really that bendy, like the photo suggests, and if so, how much can they bend? - Lewie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4That has got to be the best sentence I've read in a long time! It's succinct, and encompasses the majority of thoughts within this thread with a hint of sarcasm. In other words, brilliant!
- steelmaverick, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7RAZOR SHARP FRISBEES!!!!!
Ok, now that i have that out of my system.
What's the point since we have Blu-Ray and HD-DVD on the horizon? - Mesach, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4What you NEVER make any typos?
- tijer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Yeah. By stacking it. Jesus... If you want to make a fair comparison to Blu-Ray or HD-dvd then you'd have to stack them too. Which makes it even more stupid.
- liveinabin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7The age of the free flexidisc movie is here!
- Mesach, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3spellcheck will NEVER find and fix a word that is correctly spelled, if it is used in the wrong place.
- obiwankenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It looks very cool and breakable.
- marcan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3it is a typo - been said over and over again. 9.4GB*100 = 940GB.
- Chasin_Fat_Kids, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"What's the point since we have Blu-Ray and HD-DVD on the horizon?"
I read in the article that this could be used with the new Blu-Ray and HD-DVD disks - it's at the end :) - portis, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Think of the scratches.
- Maasneotek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm simply amazed at these comments, how many of you actually READ THE ARTICLE?
- hackwrench, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Why the possibility of them snapping of course, though they're more flexible than DVD which ameliorates the breaking somewhat but means trickier positioning for read/write. But the possibility in the article is to somehow place them in a DVD changer type cartridge.
- Izzie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The technology involved in DVDs is not new anymore and is quite mastered by now, IMHO this kind of optimization is overdue due to lack of competition.
Even the HD-DVD and blu-ray are getting obsolete with holographic storage. you heard of the 515 Gb per square inch and upcoming 300GB disk with a transfer rate of 20MB/sec don't you ?
And this is the beginning of a new tech, which means it will quickly improve, second generation medias will range from 800GB to 1,6 TB per disk.
this will even get better when the blue and green laser prices will come down.
And soon after that the ultraviolet atomic disk is expected to hit between 10TB and 100TB per disk at first and it is theorically able to go petabytes and even reach exabyte.
http://www.digg.com/hardware/First_Retail_holographic_Storage_
http://www.physorg.com/news785.html - nanotech
So I'm not excited at all at a cartridge that will have to load/unload each disc one by one which will take ages, and especially when one cartdrige price is so expensive. - cyssero, on 04/18/2009, -0/+2I agree. The only issue I have with DVDs is the fact that they scratch too easily, not that they don't have enough storage. But then again, it does cause us to burn more discs and eventually buy more discs, so maybe they like this?
- Trixrox, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3They need to work on scratch resistant, and not thinner disks. I just dont see the point, how will the average consumer benefit from this?
- ChileanGoD, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"$325 for a 100-disc cartridge" .... we're going to wait a little for the price to come down.
- Azewaldo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1That was my thought... But hey, a 4.7Gb floppy disk, how 'bout that!?
- coollettuce, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1actually 1024 GB is a TB
- ContactRose, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2First, IMO, they need to come up with an ink that can stand up to the rigors of time if manufacturers are truly concerned about data storage and backup with these devices, rather than the thickness of the discs themselves.
Until there is a backup medium that is "guaranteed" to be as reliable as tape and last (almost) indefinitely, then there is not any reason to stack them in a 2.5" stack or a 50" stack. The ink is going to pit and corrupt your data in about 5-10 years anyway. - neoknight, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1would make a great frisbee I bet, gloves recommended while throwing and catching
- jpesicka2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11/13 the size of a normal dvd! 4.7X13=awesomely huge dvd for video games!!!!!!!!!!!
- gotamd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1But they're also really flexible, so they'd start wobbling a lot if there was any air turbulence or imperfection on the disc. I would think they'd have to spin more slowly.
- Mesach, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1at $325 for 100 discs they are not going to be putting these in magazines anytime soon, and that price will keep people from adopting them which will keep the price high.
- soogy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Honestly, I don't get it. Why would you want to stack DVDs when it'll take so long to write to them? Why not just buy a tape backup? And at $325 (when they are released) you will be able to buy two 500gb hds for that price. $285 at newegg right now, but usually there are deals on HDs like this, and you can get them for considerably cheaper.
- Negyxo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well one of them bends easily. But once you put 100 of them together... their strenghts combined...they become useful ?This is more of a first step towards a new technology. I don't believe they even said anything about the discs being able to pass on a lazer to the discs above it or anything. THAT kinda seems like a big hurdle. Think about it, each time the lazer goes up a layer the beam will be refracted a bit more, i don't even know if they have optical propreties on those discs that would allow a beam to even reach the 100th disc.
- The_Decryptor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1$3.25 isn't a lot for a single disk (considering a DL DVD is around $8 here)
- newevilmind, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1maybe they'll be more biodegradeable?
- Pottersquash, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1is storage really an issue anymore? so you can have 1T of storage space in a small anount of space, unless I have 1T of data what good is this? Arent we still limited by our max DL speeds by gov? Other than putting my entire DVD collection in a single cartridge I dont see a real use for this, and I can already put my entire DVD collect in a single HD, but I dont wanna do that anyway.
- drizek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1ya, this can reduce the environmental impact of dvds to 1/13th of what it currently is.
BTW, recycle your old cds! - blownfuse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1$3.25 per disk for a "new"/reworked optical medium isn't that bad. Recordable DVDs of the varying formats were $10+/disk when they came out, as were CDs, as well...or does no one here remember when CD-R was new and people were excited about 2x write speed?
- Ralphy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Aren't they suspose to make cds smaller not thinner???
- Zephiron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0PT/BR: http://www.htk.com.br/noticia.php?noticia=564
- haochi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Damn expensive.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1How pointless. DVDs aren't "too thick", so making them thinner isn't really innovative. In fact, it could only complicate things with DVD players or DVD burners.
- sheriffbob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Does anyone remember those giant video discs they had for a while that were the size of a record. Now if you only you could have stacked those babies.
- Mesach, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I love it, you make a point of belittleing him by asking if he read the article, when it was apparent you didn't read it yourself.
- blownfuse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0how much application does holographic storage have "for the masses" now? at this point, holo-store is basically the next generation of tape drives, and how many people do you know with a travan sitting on their desk at home? maybe it's just hidden behind everyone's betamax and 8mm vcrs.
- eatnumber1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1and now we're back to the days of the floppy disk =)
- blownfuse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This has the same practicality and market as holo-storage, which is to say, very limited. as others have mentioned, what is the point of having TB+ storage? Until I could use any of these mediums with my tivo, they don't have a lot of use for the average consumer. the only way this will ever succeed if people buy it because "it's cool."
- Nicklogan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1All i can imagine from seeing that picture is a 5.25" floppy.
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