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- rhabdomancer, on 06/18/2009, -8/+91The fanboys will notice, but they will rationalize it.
"Our Glorious Leader knows what is best for us! All Glory to Steve Jobs!" - inactive, on 06/18/2009, -7/+84It's a feature. Increased waiting times allow you to enjoy the beautiful look of Apple products.
- jdmulloy, on 06/18/2009, -6/+80From the Article:
McGregor noted that the slower SATA interface will not likely affect most MacBook Pro users, as the data transfers from traditional hard drives don't saturate a 1.5Gbit/sec SATA interface, let alone a 3Gbit/sec interface. However, users with USB hubs connecting multiple external devices -- such as flash drives or a hard disk drive -- to a laptop or desktop computer might saturate the 1.5Gbit/sec SATA interface, hampering I/O.
WTF?
What do USB hubs and USB drives have to do with the SATA interface?
I really don't understand this I don't buy Apple's crap, but this doesn't make any sense. It's definitely an artificial limit imposed by their BIOS/EFI configuration since they most likely have a newer ICH that supports AHCI and 3 Gb/s.
Screw Apple! - doublefelix, on 06/18/2009, -6/+67You can't just significantly downgrade your hardware and expect fanboys not to notice.
- kooredaan, on 06/18/2009, -5/+49Simple. In a year they'll reintroduce the MacBook Pro with the higher I/Os as the main new feature and people will go gaga over it.
It's the Apple way.
Add copy and paste and landscape view and people swoon all over it. Granted those (plus other functionality) should have been included after year 1, if not from day 1. It's old technology, but Apple does a good job of creating a buzz around it all....
Mind you, I'm a Wac guy (I owe both systems and even an iPhone), but I still call it like I see it. - Kamujin, on 06/18/2009, -8/+48It's Apple, they can do whatever they want and people will still love them.
The macBook Pro was really competitive in terms of features and price with other high end notebooks, for about 9 months in 2007-2008. Outside of that range, it's the same old pattern of last year's tech and this year's prices. - ifruit, on 06/18/2009, -7/+40They wanted to make sure it wouldn't run Crysis.
- fandyllic, on 06/18/2009, -21/+52Apple tries to do evil things every once in a while and usually for stealth self-interest. Limiting SATA throughput on laptops is probably a scummy tactic to drive some sales to the Mac Pro (over-priced, over-fat tower) for professional users tied to Macs who might have chosen to use a laptop for throughput intensive work like video editing.
I suspect Apple did a similar thing with their USB 2.0 implementation (which is slow and horrible on Macs) in order to push Firewire. - pcpimpster, on 06/18/2009, -3/+34Don't worry, the new macbook pro is way shinier then the current model...
- pcpimpster, on 06/18/2009, -5/+32Jobs could take a giant piss on all those fanboys and they would open their mouths wide to taste some of that jesus juice.
- doshindude, on 06/18/2009, -5/+27...um, no he's not.
There are 2 different apple products. One is the Mac Pro, and the other is the MBP. - banshee90, on 06/18/2009, -5/+26Because steve jobs knows what you need
- inactive, on 06/18/2009, -4/+23Fanboys think it's logical to make an 85W PSU that can't fully power the laptop without the battery in it, just to make it a pretty white square with an apple logo...
Fanboys think Apple makes perfect sense to underclock the graphics card of their notebooks...
I'd say fanboys will find an amazing explanation to downgrade hard drive speed, like "MOST people don't need a lot of hard drive speed... and this saves battery if you install a faster hard drive! =D".
And if you try to fight their argument in a forum, they will kick you out or bitterly tell you to sell your Apple to them.
Idiots. - yevkasem, on 06/18/2009, -1/+19dell and hp wouldn't waste their time doing something this stupid.
- diggforworld, on 06/18/2009, -7/+25It's because Apple sucks squirrel's nuts.
There, fixed it for ya! - doshindude, on 06/18/2009, -14/+28Mac Pro != Macbook Pro. HUGE difference there. The MBP is a toy in comparison tho the MP Tower.
- dagamer34, on 06/18/2009, -0/+14It's the same chipset. There are no cost savings.
- aznhomig, on 06/18/2009, -1/+15lol SATA I.
- wilhoitm, on 06/18/2009, -4/+16Maybe it is to save power to get the 8 hour batter life?
- MikeOSX, on 06/18/2009, -2/+13I bet it's apple flavored
- inactive, on 06/18/2009, -1/+12I was going to laugh at you then I saw your name, so I laughed with you.
- emt1451, on 06/18/2009, -1/+11McGregor is obviously not competent.
- inactive, on 06/18/2009, -0/+9Phew!
- scy1192, on 06/18/2009, -5/+14relax, the submitter probably just tried to shorten up the title so it would fit and forgot there was a difference.
- inactive, on 06/18/2009, -2/+10once in awhile? stealth?
- rumblestrut, on 06/18/2009, -1/+9Oh, that's a shame. I was going to purchase either a 13" or 15" next month (I WAS still deciding).
I suppose I can wait. - inactive, on 06/18/2009, -4/+12That's easy. So they can introduce another one next year for more money and people will buy it again.
do you really think that Apple DOESN'T realize thattheir customers will buy anything they put out? Do you think they are under the delusion that they sell stuff due to VALUE for the money? - jmichaelg, on 06/18/2009, -0/+8Because Steve Jobs wants to charge more for higher speeds.
It's not as if this hasn't happened in the past - Anyone here old enough to remember the Mac with a 16 bit bus? It was priced to compete with the PCs of the time. If you wanted the full 32 bit bus that the CPU needed you had to pay a premium. - colincornaby, on 06/18/2009, -6/+14An engineer screwed up. It's not a conspiracy. Someone just forgot to flip a bit.
I don't get why Apple fans can't seem to accept that sometimes Apple ships things with bugs. They'd rather blame it on some vast conspiracy rather than admit that someone at Apple was mortal and screwed up. - inactive, on 06/18/2009, -6/+14cause they are dicks
- TylerDuhrdan, on 06/18/2009, -6/+14But but but it is made from 1 piece of aluminum. Look at the smooth aluminum, dont worry about what we tell you, just look at the aluminum.
I had been a very loyal Apple fanatic for well over 10 years, i even started to collect older Macs, then one day I woke up and realized there is more to life than the shiny ***** Apple sells.
I got more for less by going PC, and yes my out of the box HP can run OSX Leopard, not that it will, but saving the money by using something over hyped is worth it.
And the propaganda Apple slings, trashing Windows 7 as being a new version of Vista, when they fail to mention Snow Leopard is just new (but 64 bit) version of Leopard.
Apple is full of *****, overcharging and sorry to say this, you deserve your crippled equipment. - inactive, on 06/18/2009, -0/+7, bitch. Now get on your knees
- Gndoab, on 06/18/2009, -0/+7The Glorious Leader Steve Jobs is il.
(thanks folks, I'm here all week) - torgreed, on 06/18/2009, -0/+6The only possible thing that the slower SATA chip could have is, if there's a shared resource and the SATA chip holds it for a longer period of time. Like if it holds the PCIe bus to DMA to system memory over a longer time interval for the same amount of data.
But based on the article, I can't imagine that's what he's thinking. I can't imagine that he's thinking.
Be interesting to see some tests of what happens with simultaneous use of the hard disk and optical drive. I don't know how the chip is designed; if it's got fully discrete channels for each port, and an internal buffer, it won't matter about drive speed. But if there's anything shared between the ports.... - techdever, on 06/18/2009, -4/+10Why is arctic being buried?
There are so many mactards that think apple only makes laptops. - soopafly, on 06/18/2009, -4/+10MBP?
- taibo, on 06/18/2009, -0/+6dell and hp don't have the advantage of blind fanboys. they screw up, they lose business, simple.
- inactive, on 06/18/2009, -0/+6Maybe it makes the drive act like a flux capacitor, retarding the age of the entire laptop through chrono-waves that propagate over the service of the device. or maybe it's a marketing tactic.
- inactive, on 06/18/2009, -34/+40It's because Apple Sucks Squirrel Balls.
- meatmcguffin, on 06/18/2009, -0/+6Whale biologist
- krisrm, on 06/18/2009, -0/+6"I'm puzzled by it, as I know a lot of other people are. The only reason why I could think they would do it is there was some serious technical glitch -- maybe the [processing] chip, maybe the optical drive,"
...You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, do you? - inactive, on 06/18/2009, -0/+6Yes, you see the engineers figured out that people will spend thousands of dollars on ***** "Pro" hardware if they are told their laptop is incapable of the bus speeds that any other laptop on the market for the last five years has had.
- inactive, on 06/18/2009, -2/+8Most people prefer what's on the outside to what is on the inside anyway.
- MasterMic, on 06/18/2009, -1/+7And now iPod Touch users must pay for Copy and Paste =(
- TylerDuhrdan, on 06/18/2009, -0/+5Yes I really think that changing the name will influence the sales of the OS to people who dont know.
- KSUdesigner, on 06/18/2009, -2/+7I was going to digg you up until you said, "I use Apple products simply because they are the best for the wide range of industries I perform work in; photography, videography, music production, web design, and software engineering."
Why do you think they are the best at these things? I own 3 Macs myself, but I'm not deluded into thinking they are better than any other computer out there. All of those things can be accomplished equally as well on a PC running Windows. The days of one being better than the other are long gone, it's merely a matter of personal preference now. - kooredaan, on 06/18/2009, -0/+5I'm slow, what does that mean?
- Tek12, on 06/18/2009, -0/+5I have a 2007 MacBook Pro and I just bought a 2009 MacBook Pro, both 15". I was curious about the change in SATA interface speeds and wanted to see what the difference would be. In my 2007 MBP, I've also replaced the hard drive with a Hitachi 200GB 7200RPM drive. The 2009 MBP has the stock 250GB 5400RPM drive.
XBench Results:
2007 MBP: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2iibu5t&s=5
2009 MBP: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=nv2xd5&s=5 - inactive, on 06/18/2009, -2/+7LoL oops, i flipped a bit that halves hard drive performance. Yeah, I can see that getting through design, engineering, testing, benchmarks, product manufacturing, quality control. Apple is a small company you know.
- heyimfromreddit, on 06/18/2009, -1/+6Maybe you shouldn't be "fanatic" about a company.
Calm the ***** down and stop overreacting. -
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