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- mscnln, on 10/12/2007, -11/+37*ahem* Where are the PowerPC chips?
- Dgen_X, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22mmmmmm foood faaan
- toppur, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17Or the Intel Core Duos?
- GlargTheKelfn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13what's the temp on the server hosting the original about now?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+141 degree below the point where the magic smoke escapes.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10if you can roast a marshmallow near the heatsink it's doin' fine; if the marshmallow bursts into flames...not so good
- apotropaic, on 10/12/2007, -10/+18So we all agree.. nobody cares how hot a PowerPC chip can get.
- tokyomonster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Where did they get this information, and is it credible...advising someone on a max cpu temp isn't something that should be played around with, as some may over clock and hit that temperature, which, if incorrect can obviously damage their CPU... Can anyone else verify that these are at least ball park figures? ...other than that, it's a great resource.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7what the hell are you doing at digg.com if you're not a tech nerd?
did you get lost? - seanmc303, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12I would like to see the ratio of people who care about how hot their PowerPC chip is running vs. the PC people. Macs are not exactly overclocking friendly.
- dw2005, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Go play on Netscape.com noob
- tonicboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Useful, but I'd like to see the same info for graphics cards!
- Callisto, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9http://www.duggmirror.com/hardware/What_is_my_Computers_Maximum_CPU_Temperature_/
- kickmenow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5As near as I can tell, the Intel figures come straight from Intel's technical documentation. At least, the numbers for the Pentium D chips match the numbers in Intel's docs. And yes, the numbers generally ought to be "design continuous operating temperature". That is, you should be able to run the CPU at the given temperature indefinitely without damaging it. Lifetime can be reduced above the temperature, and for any chip without a built-in thermal protection circuit, you can actually break the chip if you exceed the design temperature significantly.
Actually reading the documentation can be a little difficult, since Intel doesn't just write "here is the maximum" temp, and not all the documents use the same format. But it's not too hard to glean the necessary information. The data is generally under the "Thermal Specifications" section, but how it's presented varies.
To see where they got the Pentium D numbers, check out the datasheet links here:
http://www.intel.com/design/PentiumD/documentation.htm
(the 800 series datasheet in particular)
It does look like they misread the value for the 820, which ought to be 64.1C, not 63C.
In answer to a previous question about Core Duo, look here:
http://www.intel.com/design/mobile/core/duodocumentation.htm
(I know it says "mobile" in the URL, but this is the main link for the whole Core Duo line).
As near as I can tell, Core Duo max operating temp is 100C (hot!). They don't say what the activation temp for the Thermal Control Circuit is, but the "THERMTRIP# activation" temperature is 125C, so presumably the TCC is activated somewhere between 100C and 125C.
I haven't bothered to research thermal specifications for many different CPUs, but when I have looked for the data, it's always close at hand, somewhere on the chip manufacturer's web site. I suspect for anyone with a specific chip in mind, it would take less than 30 minutes to track down the document and find the answer within, and probably less than 10 minutes once you've done it once. - trogdoor, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8"I care about PowerPC too. When I'm encoding DVDs from Netflix for archival purposes, my CPU gets really hot. Sometimes I worry it's too hot so I'd like to know how hot it can get before I'm in the danger zone."
Archival purposes, right... - illt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6my macbook runs at 85+C :(
- bradleyland, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I care. My 20" iMac hits 78C more often than I'd like. I'd flip out if my Athlon 64 hit those temperatures. Thank god for AppleCare.
- nigz0thackb0t, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5more here http://users.erols.com/chare/elec.htm
- ccanni1028, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5What's with the negative diggs? This is a mirror site, not a dupe notice.
- Lumiras, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Great, I never knew that Pentiums had a way to slow themselves down to save from burning out. That turned out to be very useful when the fan on my system was broken for weeks without my knowledge
- Celeron, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Just buy a good case with a food fan system and you could care less about what your comp's max cpu temp is.
- haxx4, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8"WordPress: Error establishing a database connection"
I've seen this error message on SOOO many sites linked to by digg and it is SOOO dang annoying! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4iiiiiiiiii....dont think so. my computer runs at a low idle temp when in bios.
- geek6oy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Oh look, an AOL user out of the nest...
- tormented, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Silly imperial system user.
- yellowperil, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4you are aware that some macbooks still have the plastic covering the vent behind the computer and under the monitor... maybe that is it... cuz damn thats hot as hell...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3LOL Motherboard Monitor does not seem accurate for my Pentium D... 32 degrees F! I must be cooling with liquid nitrogen. Is this because MM stopped being updated awhile ago?
- robsonde, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3if you are going to ask about powerPC chips then i waht to know about Sparc chips too.
- aeiou, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3no self respecting overclocker uses F ;)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4i like the videos on tomshardware where they take the heat sink off an athlon and p4.. it really makes you want thermal protection.
- JaytB, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Very useful for the overclockers among us, though it's probably not the most complete list you can find
- superal1394, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I thought wordpress was supposed to scale amazingly well
- Rooster.boy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Pretty lame article, you're overclocked CPU wouldn't be stable at the maximum temp so it's pretty irrelevant. Either your CPU is stable or not, and stability can be directly related to heat.
- JMJimmy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This is interesting - Mine is rated at 90C yet it reboots if it hits 42.7C... hrm
- SkeletaLlama, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I care about PowerPC too. When I'm encoding DVDs from Netflix for archival purposes, my CPU gets really hot. Sometimes I worry it's too hot so I'd like to know how hot it can get before I'm in the danger zone.
- ratsg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3What about my Sparc??
- CompIsMyRx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2My Athlon 64 X2 4400+ runs at about 40C most of the time. Good to know that the upper limit is around 71C. Now, where is this kind of list for GPUs? My 7900GT runs at about 57-60C normally, and that seems hot.
- UNL1M1T3D, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3It is wierd because when I installed Motherboard Monitor, my ambient case temperature was normal, but it was reporting my CPU in the negatives. Now I know my case is cool (checked the bios and my CPU runs at 30 degrees celicius), but I can't figure it out.
- Itamae, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This has been on digg before, front page as well. Still a great article nonetheless.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I know my processor's max temp is 163 degrees Fahrenheit.. because that's when the computer suddenly shuts off
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2My primary computobobulator speed is 700 000 cycles per second and constructed with 90 Amgstrom fabrication. Good inflagration per guinea!
- superal1394, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2haha, pentium M's can run SOOO hot. My laptop at full tilt (1.7 ghz) has the proccesor pushing 75 degrees celsius, the motherboard lookin at 60 degrees celsius, and the hard disk pushin 55 degrees celsius. Needless to say, my computer is very hot.
- Splitt3rxx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2my Athlon 64 3500+ rarely passes 40C, even under load, and that is with stock cooling, i have an upgraded *****, the only thing that runs hot is my video card.(6600gt)
- krazikamikaze, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I have an Athlon XP Barton and if I let it get in the high 60s it consistently becomes unstable. Nothing like a crashing game or a page fault to remind me to turn up my fan speed on a hot day.
- deathbringer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2that sucked, I wanted a tomshardware type test where they ACCTUALLY figured out the max temp by running them till they set on fire. not just cutting and pasting the manufactures specs.
- illt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2it's not uncommon..unfortunately.:
http://www.intelmactemp.com/list - Lounger540, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I've had my MacBook Pro in the 96c range while running Motion and Parallels for a while. The top of the unit just above the keyboard is too hot to really touch and hold but my lap never gets too hot even wearing thin pants so the temp gauge could be off. I'm using the lasest MenuTempature.
- dotcom101010, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3"seanmc303 I would like to see the ratio of people who care about how hot their PowerPC chip is running vs. the PC people. Macs are not exactly overclocking friendly."
I would have to disagree with you i have a G3 power mac its original speed is 400mhz i overclocked it to 500mhz and i for one would like to know the safe temp for it. - Recluse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This didn't tell me anything I didn't already no and no specs on Pentium 4's. No digg.
- GIFF3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1apply it with a razor blade. That should help to spread it evenly.
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