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- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -4/+131Conclusion from 9 pages of ads (one paragraph per page) article:
Final Thoughts: Should You Buy?
We're pretty impressed with the overall performance of the Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000. However, as we pack more data onto these compact digital devices, the thought of losing that data is a bit daunting. Losing 160GB of data is one thing, but losing 900GB of your digital life is quite another. If you do opt for one of these massive drives, a good backup strategy is essential. If you're concerned about reliability, two drives set up in a RAID 1 configuration may give you a little peace of mind, but RAID 1 is no substitute for a good backup.
The price for the 7K1000 is impressive: $399 (MSRP) for a one terabyte drive. That price is pretty close to what we've seen on the web, with some web shops selling as low as $389, while others are charging as much as $599. As supply increases, pricing will likely shake out.
We'll certainly be seeing more terabyte-class drives in the next few months, but for now, Hitachi Global Storage's 7K1000 rules the roost. Offering astounding capacity and better-than-expected performance, it's worth a look, if you think you can fill it up. - Zippo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+123five years from now we'll look back at this and laugh.
- AlmostEvil, on 10/11/2007, -3/+86@Y0tsuya
I'm an amateur photographer. For about 1 months of photography (each RAW image is roughly 10-20MB) it typically totals around 50GB. It builds up quickly.
Plus I recently bought a scanner capable of scanning negatives and have been scanning a whole slew old photos. Of which I expect will be quite sizeable too.
Don't assume nobody but people who have porn collections will want this. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -14/+82How many DP scenes is that?
- Jazzillion, on 10/11/2007, -5/+40A wonderful achievement of our technological evolution. Infinite porn singularity is near.
- jocnnor, on 10/11/2007, -3/+35@Y0tsuya
Quote from above:
"First of all, you RAID any valuable data. Secondly, no consumer has 900GB of "digital life", except for HD porn."
Quote from here:
"I'm building a 16-unit RAID 5 out of 750GB drives. For the next 12 months they'll be more cost-effective, assuming that's enough for your needs."
No follow up necessary - chucksmooth, on 10/11/2007, -1/+30welcome to 47 comments ago
- ZMerlin, on 10/11/2007, -12/+40Who. Cares.
- xertys, on 10/11/2007, -3/+28@g33b33
You suck at posting screenshots. - TheTjalian, on 10/11/2007, -3/+28TB is the new GB
- Y0tsuya, on 10/11/2007, -5/+29Yeah on second thought it might usher in an era of consumers who don't bother compressing their DV camcorder videos. Today raw image, tomorrow raw video.
- megaloid, on 10/11/2007, -3/+26I can feel it coming.
- saltmiser, on 10/11/2007, -4/+26I wouldn't mind getting three of these and having a sexy RAID5 :D
- MalDON, on 10/11/2007, -1/+15Anyone else notice that their test machine was Windows XP, but the screen shots were taken in vista?
- chewitt, on 10/11/2007, -0/+14if your pencilneck insult didn't convince me I should care, your unreadable screenshot clinched the deal...
- vsujohn2, on 10/11/2007, -4/+18Hooray! I've always wanted ~931 GB in a 3.5" form factor!
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12What's a discussion on hard drive space w/o the obligatory arguments over semantics?
- theblacknight, on 10/11/2007, -4/+16@Y0tsuya
Be careful putting too many drives in a RAID 5....often identical drives will fail due to a common cause (either manufacturing which manifests at the same time or as a result of too much shaking of the case or something) and the you'll lose everything.
You can think of it this way: At some point a drive will die, and then your system is vulnerable until it is rebuilt, and the risk obviously increases as the number of drives does (as 1-(1-f)^n where f is the chance of failure).
Because of that, there is an ideal number of drives for a RAID 5 array; I don't know what it is, but I would keep it at less than 8 with a spare already in the system at all times. Therefore, I'd LVM two RAID 5's together. - lopla, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12Typical consumer:
"Hi, is this the Best Buy support desk? It is? Ok great. Well, I gotta big problem! My 1terabyte hard thingy is making grinding noises and my computer screen is black. My drive is dead? What do you mean it's dead? Backup? No I don't have a backup. My data is gone!!!??? WHAT!!!??? I had 50,000 family photos and 200 home movies! All my financial data and my mp3 collection that took me 3 months to get onto my computer! Dead?!! I'm bringing my computer in and you better get my stuff back!!!" - marcgerges, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10anybody who trusts a single harddrive of any brand with important data deserves to lose the data.
Buy two, make a RAID. Buy a third one in an enclosure and use it for your backup. - DocDEB, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10Our ability to collect and store information is rapidly exceeding our ability to actually use that information. As an example let's say you have a digital photography collection exceeding 500 GB. Unless you have been totally anal (or have a staff of lackeys) and entered keywords, comments, ratings etc. (meta-data) you have no way in hell of finding that one picture of your mother at the Grand Canyon on her 60th birthday. Now we all know that we should be entering meta-data for those 260 pictures that you just sucked off of the CF card from your camera but that takes time which we don't have at the moment... so we'll get to it later. Sure. Right.
The problem gets bigger the more data I collect. We haven't even gotten to the part where I want to back up my now > 1 TB collection. Currently the only way to do that is go out and buy more TB drives and use those as a backup. I'd better store those back ups in a safe place with the least chance of being destroyed in the unpredictable fire, flood, ATF raid, etc. How many TB drives can you get in a safe deposit box? How often are you going to the bank to retrieve those TB back ups to add the latest data... once a week, once a month, often enough to draw the attention of the ATF (or insert initials of your favorite government agency)? I'll get to it next week. Sure. Right.
The new rule of the digital age: Data always expands to fill all of the space assigned to it.
Corollary to the new rule: *****! I know that it's here... someplace. - datter, on 10/11/2007, -3/+13There's more *missing* gb out of that 'terrabyte' than I have in useable hard disks on my current system. How depressing.
- stmiller, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11The manufac adds in fine print: actual formatted size: about 400GB.
- sgb162, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11Anyone else remember "Woah, a 1gb HD? What are you gonna do with all that space, man?!"
- thydzik, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9good news. should speed up Seagate's release of 1TB drives.
- hackerssidekick, on 10/11/2007, -8/+16Yeah, comments on the article.
Not comments on your *****. Like the guy above me said, "Who cares?" - srg13, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10I'll go for a Western Digital or a Seagate. I bought two maxtors early last year, and they both died.
- Aliarse, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8@webbery (#6749438)
Most people call them "deathstar" because the old ones used to die after a year. I've had the 80GB for about three years or so.
I've had no problems with any of mine whatsoever (/me touches wood.), so i personally, i don't think the name is deserved any more. - SteveMax, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8No, one terabyte is exactly 10^12 bytes (1,000,000,000,000 bytes). One tebibyte is exactly 2^40 bytes (1,099,511,627,776 bytes). Tera is the SI prefix for 10^12; tebi is the closest binary equivalent, or 2^40. I hate quoting Wikipedia, but their table on this is OK:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tebibyte - toucci, on 10/11/2007, -4/+11It is actually a Terabyte (TB) following SI naming conventions. You only get ~931.3 "Gibibytes" (GiB) from it, though.
- contradictator, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Dude, I like my Mac as much as the next guy, but the point is having 1 terabyte inside of ONE hard drive. Anyone can buy two 500 gig drives, not just Apple users. Don't be a troll.
While we're on the subject tho, i'd love to see one of these in some of the upcoming Macs. It'd definitely work with the Mac Pro, and probably with the next series of iMacs too. But as unlikely as it is, i'd love to see someone make this bad boy work in a Mac Mini! - TheTjalian, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9935GB is a lot better then I thought it was going to be. I was expecting a good 150~GB missing.
Although, I gotta say, without resorting to hardcore piracy, I'd find it hard to fill 935GB. I'd eventually be able to back up every DVD I have, every CD I have, Every Video Game I have, every PD ROM on the planet, all my digital music and video and STILL have space over. - webbery, on 10/11/2007, -5/+11Deskstar? Thanks, but I'll wait 'til Western Digital or Maxtor reach 1TB.
- justintsmith, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Wow, I cant believe this drive can hold my entire itunes DRM catalogue Ive spent over $15,000 and 4 years on.
Let's boot this baby up and enjoy the simplicity of modern harware..
"** Warning. Hard Drive Failure **"
..NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!! - ZPWeeks, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Looks like we found the one person who still doesn't know about AdBlock Plus.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7How do I shot web?
- imeddy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7@zoom1928
you mean 'tebibyte' :) - chewitt, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5"DO NOT COVER THIS HOLE!"
heh... never mind. - preved, on 10/11/2007, -6/+10Terrabyte? What a joke... How can you do anything with one terrabyte? Try 100000 terrabytes at least (voice from 2012).
- codyfrisch, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I've had to deal with over 3TB of data in just one week, yes it was HD video, no it was not HD porn. It was just video I shot, as I am a video/film student/freelancer. It gets sick trying to manage it, fortunately most of its intermediate data that can be wiped out as once the final is done you only *have* to keep source files and projects and then a copy of the final. You can always rerender and rebuild if you must. I'd rather keep some of it around but if I can't, I don't. It's life. I can't afford all the drives it would take to hold it all, so I just let someof it go.
- Tikkimann, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4@Zippo,
I hope so. I wonder how many diggers will know what a Yottabyte is compared to today. - MilkDaddy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5That's what she said...
- AnimZero, on 10/11/2007, -0/+41TB? I'd hit it... with a partitioning program.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3@aliarse:
At work we had 2 500GB Hitachi Deskstar drives less than one year old fail within 2 weeks of each other, in the same manner as the old "Deathstar" drives... That is enough for me to want to avoid the whole Deskstar line.. - torrentbits, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3TB HD's will be filled easily once HD-DVD/BlueRay will hit the mainstream...
- eggo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3In order to settle a bet (which started much like the argument above), I logged every Desktop hard drive failure that came into my shop last year. The results? From Jan 1 to Dec 31 2006: 44 Maxtor, 35 Hitachi/IBM, 32 Wester Digital, 30 Seagate, 1 Quantum.
Of course, I didn't compare these numbers to age of the drives, or total number of still working drives. But, I think it does say something about the relative failure rate--that it is roughly the same across the board. And that Maxtor sucks balls--that was the bet. - jellystones, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Up next: 1 Petabyte 0_o
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -6/+8The digital age is going to require massive amounts of hard drive space. A good investment, I'd say.
- ronaldinho, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2It's amazing but actually more necessary than you think. Especially to all those who have many media files of any type, they are only going to get bigger because their resolution and quality will get better. One movie takes up 1 and a half GB, and pretty soon it will be 3 GB. Those hard disk space will get filled up quickly.
- Anteros, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4That page really needs more adverts and links on it
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