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- jggube, on 09/23/2008, -6/+51The motherboard buying guide was spot-on - I know a lot of PC builders who take the mobo for granted - but that's like a very important (if not the most important) piece of the puzzle. Now I'm itching to build another PC.
- Ramza32, on 09/24/2008, -1/+40It's a pretty outdated guide. 8800's for 240!? You can get a GTX 260 for that price on newegg.
- Millsee, on 09/24/2008, -5/+29***** you, two of my ...
*chops own head off* - Dochtuir, on 09/24/2008, -5/+27***** you, two of my friends died chopping their heads off!!
- Rikushix, on 09/23/2008, -7/+28I don't know about you, but I digg a story when I feel like digging a story. I don't digg a story based on the submitter.
- InfernoX, on 09/24/2008, -2/+22Ati is awesome right now.
4850, 4870 and 4870x2. 4870x2 is currently the most powerful single slot solution available. - somestranger26, on 09/24/2008, -0/+18...If your budget is in the thousands and not the hundreds. DDR3 is still absurdly expensive, an X58 motherboard will run at least $200, and Intel always has way overpriced processors when they first come out.
- DeFex, on 09/24/2008, -2/+201: any component. the brighter colors and more LEDs the quicker it will break.
2: AMD USED to be the CPU of choice. it is not anymore. get over it.
3: If it has Thermal and take in the name stay away. stay FAAAR away.
4: dual video cards. wait 3 months and get the same performance in 1 card for half the money, noise, aggrivation and heat.
5: USB is not made for streaming audio. it sucks. - JephirDromulus, on 09/24/2008, -1/+16The motherboard buying guide pretty much only recommended buying ASUS motherboards, and the only other option was one EVGA board. I know ASUS boards are pretty good, but having 5 out of 6 recommendations for ASUS and pretty much no other manufacturers seems a little suspicious to me.
- InfernoX, on 09/24/2008, -4/+18Fails for not mentioning 4850 in "mid-range directX 10 cards"
Still, good article. - rg8670bx, on 09/24/2008, -3/+17FTA - "...all current recordable DVD formats are based in single-layer technology and are limited to 4.7GB."
WTF? Dual layer recordable DVDs have been available for years and are actually pretty cheap now.
This guide also left out one of the most important and often overlooked component, the power supply. Choosing a good PSU is essential for any build, and it's not all about the wattage like some people think. - Evilblobs, on 09/24/2008, -0/+13Outdated and pretty much crap when it comes to parts it recommended.
it recommends the $1000 QX9650, but wont go past midrange GPUs (which its selection is terrible.)
Actually the recommendations often look like they went to newegg and input 'sort by highest rating' - omgroffles, on 09/24/2008, -4/+17Oh snap! Gamesradar submission by mrbabyman?
Somebody tell makimaki - g1g010, on 09/24/2008, -6/+19Anyone thinking of building a PC right now should consider the next generation, which is about 1 month away:
X58 Chipset motherboard
Intel Core i7 processor
DDR3 Triple-Channel RAM - cannarymburns, on 09/24/2008, -1/+12this guide suffers from the time to publication syndrome... by the time its published, the info is good, but old... their prices are off, newer video cards are missing, but the concept is sound. thats why i stick to forums for stuff like this, real time info.
- SpeedSteamBoat, on 09/24/2008, -0/+10You're spot on. The total lack of the Radeon 4000 series cards also either dates this article or simply makes it a pretty rotten guide. I bought my 4850 for ~$170 on Newegg about two months ago. I'm not saying the 8800 GT isn't a good value, but the 4850 is easily a faster card that sells for less than they are saying the 8800 does.
Honestly, this reads a lot more like a "2007 PC Builder's Bible" when it comes to graphics cards. - nmezib, on 09/24/2008, -2/+12well, IF you bother to "RTFA," you would notice that they think BTX is a good idea (which it IS), but ATX is still the ruling form factor and thus they recommend going with that.
Not only that, what the hell is wrong with you? nVidia chipsets are FAR from dead, a 780i not only has very decent performance, but you can get one for extremely cheap nowadays. They describe the components as something THEY would buy for themselves, as it's not necessarily the most bleeding edge technology out there.
Jizmaster, if you're not going to read the ***** article, don't bother leaving a ***** comment. - maus56, on 09/24/2008, -0/+10Great to see tech on digg instead of the usual top 10 lists...
- inactive, on 09/24/2008, -1/+11When you use 16:10 rather than 16:9, then you can have 2 full pages of text one next to each other.
- scarz99, on 09/24/2008, -0/+9Yeah not to mention I read this in a magazine mid August.
- spunalot, on 09/24/2008, -2/+9#1 check all comments about items at Newegg
#2 buy from Newegg - Rikushix, on 09/23/2008, -1/+8Apologies for double posting but I went back and noticed something...they quoted $200+ for a 8800GT...that seems a bit expensive. I thought it was just over 200 last winter.
Hell...it was on this huge clearance sale at Tiger Direct for 109.99 a week or so ago. Not a word of a lie. And that's Canadian pricing. I'd snap it up if I wasn't building my next rig months from now. The sale's over but it's still 130 regular price: http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools ... (minus rebate, but pretty much all of their products have some sort of rebate or another) - Tyrant505, on 09/24/2008, -1/+7"If you’re using a standard mouse and keyboard, you’ll never really have a chance in the gaming world. If you’re serious about gaming, get some serious gear."
can i get a WTF? - petebert, on 09/24/2008, -1/+7My CPU is a neural net processor, a learning computer
- somestranger26, on 09/24/2008, -1/+7I agreed with #1, #4, and #5. 3/5 = Dugg.
- inactive, on 09/24/2008, -1/+7This whole article is out of date by several months. It is patently unsound to follow the buying advice in it.
- Zipko, on 09/24/2008, -1/+7Dugg for Heavy in the thumbnail. That guy is a tank.
- DforSpiD, on 09/24/2008, -0/+5Newegg is fine for finding... but if that's the only place you go to buy you aren't going to get the best deal every time...
Shopping around is easier than ever now... why wouldn't you check multiple sources? - kalvinb, on 09/24/2008, -0/+5Buy the motherboard with the chipset that supports the biggest variety of CPUs. Intel 775 and AMD AM2 are currently the most flexible. You don't need to blow a lot of money on the latest and greatest CPU. You can save yourself a lot of money by getting a cheaper CPU and upgrading later.
You also don't need to a whole lot of money on a motherboard. Just get a reliable one. Check the reviews on NewEgg.
The most imporant part of building a computer is the case. You want to get one that has a lot of space to work with. You don't have to get a full tower but be careful of poorly designed mid towers. - shadydentist, on 09/24/2008, -0/+5c) buy a new graphics card. Crysis is very GPU limited.
- inactive, on 09/24/2008, -2/+7BTX is a flash in the pan. It's totally irrelevant and shouldn't factor into ANY article on building a PC today. There is not and will not be a decent BTX board in the next year, there simply will not.
700 series nVidia chipsets are retarded. Not only do they have an absurd failure rate, with those EVGA boards carrying a compulsive lifetime warranty, but there's no performance reason to own one.
THE ONLY reason to have a non-intel chipset is SLi. SLi is pointless with Crossfire and the 4870 absolutely destroying nVidia's current offerings. So there's no reason to buy an unstable ***** chipset board that's overpriced and under delivered.
Literally no reason to buy a 780i. Buy a Gigabyte P45-DS3R for 50 bucks less that supports Crossfire and is pretty much everything a first builder needs.
I've now read the entire article for the laughs it provides. If you don't see it as completely retarded, it's probably your own disability preventing you from recognizing outdated incompetence. - IllBeBack, on 09/24/2008, -3/+7Why do PCs use 1920x1200 (16:10)? Why couldn't they have just gone with 1920x1080 to match HDTVs (16:9)?
- matt.rubin, on 09/24/2008, -1/+5I am just happy that ATI can take the crown in the Video Card Department again.
- ElAmo, on 09/24/2008, -1/+5Yeah, this article is pretty *****. The prices are all way higher than they should be, and most of the parts are not at all the best for the money. And 850W power supply....
- Evilblobs, on 09/24/2008, -1/+5There is no 'most important' piece, you need all of them, and they all need to run well, for a comp to be good.
- Rikushix, on 09/23/2008, -4/+8Hey, that was a great guide, good job gamesradar.
- Rrab, on 09/24/2008, -2/+6Using the word 'bible' to describe a 'source of all the answers' is a disturbing fallacy that needs to die.
- rondeth, on 09/24/2008, -0/+4I agree...I've had great luck with Asus boards in the past, but my main comp is flying and rock-solid stable with a Gigabyte P45-chipset mobo...
- Evilblobs, on 09/24/2008, -1/+5Newegg comments are awful.
The only use they remotely have is like finding out the failure rate on a hard drive. - hagfish70, on 09/24/2008, -0/+3As someone who works in IT and builds gaming rigs on the side, I must say that this list is outdated and just plain wrong. For a guide that is updated on a monthly basis and has 3 different configs based on budget, check out www.sharkeyextreme.com
- ElAmo, on 09/24/2008, -0/+3Most likely B, but it depends on whether or not you overclock your processor.
Is this a serious question though? Both of those upgrades would not help much, probably only improve by 20% at best. It would be MUCH smarter to save that $200 and buy a new video card once yours is slow. - DforSpiD, on 09/24/2008, -0/+3Many people are, that's why they pay more for hp or dell to put one together for them...
You're paying more for less, but it is still more convenient...
Still I generally build my own... - TehProphet, on 09/24/2008, -0/+3DDR3 wouldn't be compatible with your mobo. if you are using vista an extra 2gb of good RAM might help. The CPU would be a more effective upgrade though, and what GPU do you have? that makes a much bigger difference than anything else.
- Rikushix, on 09/24/2008, -0/+3Confession: I wrote that comment about halfway through the thing, and i'll admit some of these are a bit weird. Some prices and facts are outdated but other's seem really recent...
Also, what's up with the monitors? Everything else is around the high-mid range product tier, but the LCD monitors are thousands of dollars...?
Seriously, who is going to buy a 30 inch LCD monitor unless they're ROLLING in the money and have no qualms whatsoever as to how much they spend...in which case they don't really need this guide as it is. - TekTrixter, on 09/24/2008, -0/+3Having "shopped around" in the past for parts, I plan on getting the parts for my next computer from NewEgg. Every time I've had a part fail (or be DOA) the cheap place I bought it from (via Pricewatch) has had zero customer service. It is worth it to pay a little more to be sure that if I have a problem down the road that a it will be handled by a reputable company.
- ElAmo, on 09/24/2008, -0/+3Probably $400.... get an 8800GS ($50 if you get a good deal), an E7200 ($120), 2GB of RAM, and then just cheap (but decent) other parts.
- BugMeNot2, on 09/24/2008, -0/+3PC Gamer magazine wrote it.
- Fergy, on 09/24/2008, -0/+3Depends on what kind of slot. It takes one pcie slot but 2 slots in your pc.
- inactive, on 09/24/2008, -0/+3It's for computers. It was outdated the second it was uploaded to the internet.
- paidhima, on 09/24/2008, -0/+3I see some possibilities for you. I'm not sure adding more RAM would be worth it, but adding faster RAM might. Bump up to 1066 and you can easily get the 6750 up over 3GHz - potentially to the 3.6 range if you've got a really solid motherboard and cooling. It would still be cheaper than moving up to an E8500 or something.
There are two aspects to Crysis that really tax a system: display output and physics calculations. Obviously, physics is done straight through the CPU, so overclocking your current proc would net you some minor gains there. What really punishes a system is the video, and chances are you'll get the biggest increase there. If you really want to push it, jump into a GTX 280. The 4870 (and x2) is a fantastic product as well, particularly considering the price, but nVidia-based GPUs fair better on Crysis. -
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