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Swedish Teen Hacks Microsoft Zune's DRM and WI-FI. (RIAA = owned)

zuneboards.com — "Unconfirmed sources report that a young Swedish hacker named Nutzipper has defeated the Digital Rights Management on Microsoft's new mp3 player the Zune. Our source also indicates that the hacker has also compromised the Zune's Wi-Fi music sharing system. The Wi-Fi hack apparently allows users to secretly transfer music from any nearby Zune."

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  • xoineg, on 10/12/2007, -95/+19not really news.. everything can be hacked...just need some time.
    • schestowitz, on 10/12/2007, -74/+22DRM is pointless!

      How To Bypass The Zune's WiFi Sharing DRM

      ,----[Quote ]
      | We knew it would be done sooner or later, and now that we have the
      | mod to use your Zune as a portable hard drive, a method to bypass the
      | Zune's WiFi sharing DRM is finally here.
      `----

      http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/portable-media/how-to-bypass-the-zunes-wifi-sharing-drm-217042.php
      http://tinyurl.com/y89rde

      DVD Jon Fairplays Apple

      ,----[ Quote ]
      | DRM-buster DVD Jon has a new target in his sights, and it's a big piece
      | of fruit. He has reverse-engineered Apple's Fairplay and is starting to
      | license it to companies who want their media to play on Apple's
      | devices. Instead of breaking the DRM (something he's already done), Jon
      | has replicated it, and wants to license the technology to companies that
      | want their content (music, movies, whatever) to play on Apple devices.
      | This may not be good news for iTunes the store, but it could make the
      | iPod even more popular.
      |
      | Jon Lech Johansen became famous for hacking encrypted DVDs so they would
      | play in Linux when he was 15, making him the target of criminal charges for
      | which he was eventually acquitted...
      `----

      http://featured.gigaom.com/2006/10/02/dvd-jon-fairplays-apple/


      Microsoft sues over source code theft

      ,----[ Quote ]
      | Microsoft has filed a federal lawsuit against an alleged hacker who
      | broke through its copy protection technology, charging that the
      | mystery developer somehow gained access to its copyrighted source code.
      `----

      http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-6119892.html


      QTFairUse6 Updated Hours After iTunes7 Release

      ,----[ Quote ]
      | "Mere hours after iTunes 7's release, QTFairUse6 has received an update
      | which enables it to continue stripping iTunes songs of their 'FairPlay'
      | DRM. Some features are experimental but at least it's proof that the
      | concept still works."
      `----

      http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/09/13/1354252&from=rss


      Microsoft's war waged with FairUse4WM

      ,----[ Quote ]
      | In September, Microsoft filed suit against the hacker(s) responsible
      | for one such DRM-stripping program, FairUse4WM, purportedly created
      | by the now notorious Viodentia. Other such programs reportedly target
      | the DRM protections of the iTunes Music Store and AllOfMP3, among
      | others. What will become of Microsoft's lawsuit? What does this have
      | to do with "fair use" and the Digital Millennium Copyright Act
      | (DMCA)? What follows is a brief overview in two parts. In the first,w
      | e'll discuss current issues surrounding fair use with regard to the
      | DMCA, and in the second we'll approach Microsoft's legal actions
      | against Viodentia for FairUse4WM.
      `----

      http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/13/microsofts-war-waged-with-fairuse4wm/
    • skyshock21, on 10/12/2007, -37/+10PWN3D!!!!!!!!
    • RadiatedAnt, on 10/12/2007, -31/+11More cookies for everyone!!!
    • blast0x, on 10/12/2007, -31/+8Nutzipper 1
      RIAA 0
      (Microsoft -1)
    • HMTKSteve, on 10/12/2007, -8/+57This better not be the "rename as a jpg" cheat.
    • kyuubi90, on 10/12/2007, -22/+2I want to see you come up with any hacks, it's not as easy as you think to actually make up your own hacks
    • HMTKSteve, on 10/12/2007, -2/+56I just followed the link and I see nothing about this on the page it lead to.
    • erictheninja, on 10/12/2007, -20/+4haha...Nutzipper. That's right up there with loves2spooge from South Park.

      digg me down for stupidity:)
    • kingp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25Here's a direct link to the post at Zune Boards. Doesn't look like this is for real though...

      http://www.zuneboards.com/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,28/topic,1169.0
    • 3dom, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6checked duggmirror - this link never had anything to do with zune drm being cracked.
      edit: flag564 was prolly referring to the link kingp provided above
    • christoffer, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1@xoineg

      Well, pretty much anything can be done and/or happen, so I guess we can't ever report any "news" ever again. I mean, it's just a matter of time anyway.
    • Dakk, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6"These [non-Zune] devices are just repositories for stolen music, and they all know it," UMG chairman/CEO Doug Morris says. "So it's time to get paid for it."

      LOL
    • zionKing, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14What's that in the sky? Is it a bird? Is it a plane??

      No.

      It's... flag564 flying his trusty stealth marketing machine
    • Wootery, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3"not really news.. everything can be hacked...just need some time."

      So?

      That's like saying "Anything is possible - this isn't really news".
    • lizardbrain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1zune video podcast software http://feedyourzune.com
  • billflu, on 10/12/2007, -3/+115If true, this will help sales of the Zune.
    • All4not, on 10/12/2007, -3/+68This might be the best possible thing for Microsoft. They had to know that the 3 play/3 day sharing limit would kill their wireless feature, so give the RIAA what it wants, but make it easily hackable. I'm not saying I want a Zune, but you have to admit it makes them more appealing now.
    • roosterjm2k2, on 10/12/2007, -18/+13Well, Gates has admitted publicly that he doesn't like DRM...so I doubt there will be an effort to stop this, but there will be fake suits against unnamed people to make the riaa/etc think they are working on it.
    • dclowd9901, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11If they don't do anything about it, though (whether they want to or not), the RIAA will come down on them for not securing their music players against theft. And we all know how easy a target Microsoft becomes when it comes to litigation.
    • joerod, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6I agree, it seems to me that when something gets hacked then it becomes more popular. I think this is because it allows people to create homebrew apps and other useful utilities.
    • HMTKSteve, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22As to RIAA suing MS over this, it all depends on the language of the contract.

      We are talking about MS here. They have learned a lot about legal contracts and lawsuits in the past. Heck, they could buy the RIAA with their cash reserves!
    • ronmexico, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Since they're in bed with Universal they'll have to fix this.
    • Nachoo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8wow.. can you imagine the RIAA sueing Microsoft? Now that would be pretty decent match up.
    • C0MF0RTABLYnumb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I agree and it would be hard to believe that Microsoft didn't think this would happen.
    • foshizol, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Dugg because the guys handle is Nutzipper.
    • EntangledPhysx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If it comes to the RIAA sueing Microsoft, i'm 100% on Microsofts side. I care for neither, but I dont see Microsoft sueing 12 year old girls for their families life savings (as the RIAA is famous for)
  • tsunamisteve, on 10/12/2007, -26/+1"RIAA=owned"

    Yeah, if we were talking about iPods.
    • adml_shake, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11whatever the hell that means since the Pres of Universal said that anybody with an iPod steals music anyway...
  • geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -4/+69It'll be news when it's CONFIRMED.
    • shatters, on 10/12/2007, -18/+11You're assuming digg strictly as a news site

    • ThinkBox, on 10/12/2007, -10/+3@ Shatters

      No, he is assuming news is news when it's strictly confirmed as news.

      ||||||||He didn't say - When it's confirmed it can be dugg||||||||

      A digg is a sign of interest or a bookmark. I digg things I disagree with, but was interested in. I digg things that aren't 100% pure verifiable.

      I am more likely to digg an amusing upcoming story before it hits the front page - mainly because if it interests me, ill help it interest others - whereas if it hits the front page and then I see it, I feel less obliged to digg it because I play a smaller part it letting others see it. People have different philosophies and standards about where they place their digg. That's one of mine.

      You might be more conservative with what you digg, but that's your business.
    • ardenr, on 10/12/2007, -8/+12Good luck with that, here's some more on the submitter...
      http://www.digg.com/apple/The_Disturbing_truth_about_Flag564

      This guy is an astroturfer of the worst kind. Don't believe me? look at the stories he diggs or submits, or read some of his comments. I'm just surprised sockpuppets hasn't "pwned" him here yet.
  • dainbramage559, on 10/12/2007, -3/+32What an awesome internet handle. Nutzipper...
  • waterdrop, on 10/12/2007, -3/+29This is originally form a satire site and is fake. But still It may be a reality very soon.
  • fintheman, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15If Microsoft was smart, they would let one of their developers leak the information in how to do this.

    This is what would make the Zune be a full out hit.
    • arkmtech, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Exactly - Not to imply this is the case in regards to the Zune, but were a company to make something hackable from the get-go, it'd be brilliant marketing.

      The company would be able to release a hackable product, call it secure, then leak code for breaking protections & adding new features onto the Internet - And unless the RIAA discovered some explicit inter-company documentation that proved intent, all responsibility would fall on some anonymous product-hacker uploading .ZIP files to a forum over a Tor connection.

      It would seemingly be out of the manufacturer's hands, and the product would be hyped greatly in enthusiast communities for it's excellent hackability, and sell like effing' hotcakes.
    • superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I'm not quite sure how it would be smart to open themselves up to a multi-billion dollar lawsuit from the RIAA, which is what would happen if it were found that Microsoft in any way supported open wireless sharing and indeed wireless "stealing", literally grabbing songs of a player without your knowing (as this story indicated even though indications are it's not true)...

    • ardenr, on 10/12/2007, -10/+1Microsoft IS smart, this is submitted by one of their astroturfers.

      http://www.digg.com/apple/The_Disturbing_truth_about_Flag564

      This guy is an astroturfer of the worst kind. Don't believe me? look at the stories he diggs or submits, or read some of his comments. I'm just surprised sockpuppets hasn't "pwned" him here yet.
  • thatsmyaibo, on 10/12/2007, -19/+7I'm tired so I'm going to keep it simple...

    ***** THE RIAA!!!!1!ELEVENTYONE!1!
  • 2tomato, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Microsoft was just waiting for this.
  • chubbymidget, on 10/12/2007, -10/+3I'm shocked, Shocked. ohh wait this was Microsoft related. not shocked, not shocked.
  • mlock2k, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4this is great news.
  • Lax32, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Hey, I mean, looking at the positive for the RIAA here, atleast they did better than a 12 year old with a sharpie this time around.
  • gaijintendo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+30Hahah. This assumes there is a nearby Zune to steal content from.
    Good luck war-ripping~!
    • duke_nate, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5I can't wait :-) +digg for "War-Ripping"
  • gr8whitesavage, on 10/12/2007, -2/+44The most difficult part of the whole hack is actually finding another person with a Zune!
  • metalhead3767, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1This is old.
  • mlock2k, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3This is how apple will step into the gaming counsel field they will release an open source x box/PS3 killer. And no i am not an apple fan. But imagine that, an open source fully pimped box waiting for an OS. That would be huge.
    • bonesaw, on 10/12/2007, -11/+7There is no way Apple will release an Open Source anything...ever! They are the kings of crypto
    • diggaiden, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1"...gaming counsel..." heh. Appropriate with all this talk about the RIAA, though.

    • enclaved, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@bonesaw

      http://developer.apple.com/opensource/index.html

      and what does 'king of crypto' have to do with 'open source'

      tell the truth now, you don't know ***** about computers, do you?
  • StephenChow, on 10/12/2007, -10/+3***** kids.
  • bat-21, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Another link:
    http://www.zuneboards.com/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,28/topic,1169.0

    Sorry people. This looks like a hoax.
  • Stonedonkey, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8If only I could go just one day with a Digg story on the front page that doesn't have"owning" or "pwning" involved. Unless you're being ironic, that is.
  • drewzhrodagu, on 10/12/2007, -7/+4How long until someone puts Linux on it?
  • zip22, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5inaccurate and the story has been taken down.
  • timjbart, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1Hooray, now the Zune actually has a use

    Story isn't working for me though...
  • ulyssesyt, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6dugg up for the hacker having the name "Nutzipper".
  • ulyssesyt, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5yeah, but there's like, what, three people with a Zune so far? and two of them work at Microsoft?
    • exsst, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Those two actually have a ball and chain around their ankles too, I think it's the microsoft policy..

      Once you're in, you're not coming out
  • amandaw33, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5How long before MS puts out a firmware "fix" for it? I imagine at some point there will be some reason you want to update firmware (b/c of some added featuer).. but then they'll update their hack again.

    Let the PSPish madness begin!
    • pcharles23, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1Hey sweetie,

      no need to get all hot and bothered...
      How about this... Sit back and watch apple take over
      because it's inevitable...

      :-*
  • mulling, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3Apple will make their checkmate move in the next iPod iteration: it'll have wifi and grok the zune protocol, but won't wrap the tracks with the weaksauce DRM. The iPod kids will get to keep their 'cookies' while the Zune owners have to vomit them back up after three days.

  • ziggystardust, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Zune is the Chupacabra of the portable media device world. People swear its real but they are seldom seen in public.
    • ThisistheEdge, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5+1 for dropping the Chupacabra reference, nice!
    • BGFeltenink, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Chupacabra. They're all over Mexico. [/Brock]
  • JFreak112, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3I love this Swedish kid as if he was my own....
  • JGuest, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8This would be awesome... but it isn't true!! It's fake!! http://www.zuneboards.com/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,28/topic,1169.0

    Actually click on the link before you digg it up, they took the story down because they realized it isn't true!!
    • ardenr, on 10/12/2007, -11/+3No, one of Microsoft's astroturfers engineered this, look at the submitter...
      http://www.digg.com/apple/The_Disturbing_truth_about_Flag564

      This guy is an astroturfer of the worst kind. Don't believe me? look at the stories he diggs or submits, or read some of his comments. I'm just surprised sockpuppets hasn't "pwned" him here yet. Sorry to keep repeating myself, but I really, really hate paid diggers. We have something good here and I don't want it to ***** up by lobbyists and corporations like the US government.
    • PirateFSM, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5I'm digging down everyone of your comments to spare others having to read your nonsense
  • danisse, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1An unconfirmed report about a Swedish teenager? WTF? Also: HOAX!
  • Whackly, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Why is it always a Swedish teen? Is there nothing else to do in December in Sweden?
  • KibibyteBrain, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Wow, I did not even think of the idea of an outside access vulnerability when thinking about the Zune. I sometimes store encryption keys on my iPod when i need to tote them around, which isn't that great of an idea. But doing that on a Zune would be a million times worse(assuming that the vulnerability is not exclusive to music files). Also, I would not like things like my personal pictures getting out either.
  • ggudggid, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Swedish hackers are kicking our butts. What has happened to the American hacker?
  • greekgoat91, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5It's fake you R-tards
    • FishPoisonCon, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1r-tard? you watch too much TV - specifically south park (who also got it wrong)


      r-tard is, and always has been, a misinterpretation of ART-TARD... used by and against art students who think they know their ***** because they've memorized a few artists' names and can copy their style (who, coincidentally, have none of their own)
    • Avalontor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@fishpoisoncon

      would it make more sense to you if it was typed R*tard. you R*tard. check out an urban dictionary before spouting. did you not realize that @ss stood for a word looking very close, that the first letter was replaced with a @. I could dumb this down even more for you if you want.
  • domokun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1And soon I'll be able to buy a t-shirt to pair with my DeCSS one.
  • elitexero, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1I knew this would happen. Which is why I would have wanted to trade my ipod video for a zune. But now they just rose in value.
  • shaunhey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Hoax... this is from a satire site...
  • cynicist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I don't really think the RIAA can complain about it not being secure, aren't they already getting some money from a music theft tax on it? I think that covers us file sharers right?
  • superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4A philosophical question - would you want to actually grab songs from someone with a sense of taste that led them to buy the Brown Zune?

    Also, I'd be even more interested in the hack that lets me replace songs on the target Zune with ones of my own devising...
  • cyborg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6When they say unconfirmed sources report..... they mean the website.... Heres the full story http://www.unconfirmedsources.com/?itemid=2055
  • ninjan, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1*proud to be Swedish* ( I am not Nutzipper)
  • DVRDude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Did any of the people who Dugg this article actually read it? It's a frickin' parody! Set your phasers to INACCURATE.
    • ardenr, on 10/12/2007, -10/+3Actually, it's inaccurate stealth marketing...
      http://www.digg.com/apple/The_Disturbing_truth_about_Flag564

      This guy is an astroturfer of the worst kind. Don't believe me? look at the stories he diggs or submits, or read some of his comments.

      I ***** hate you flag564 and all your kind too. Die in a fire. I'm glad I didn't block your soulless ass or I'd have missed this, and nobody else looked at your profile long enough to call *****.
    • Avalontor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3@ardenr, STFU. you only need to say it once fanboy.
    • ardenr, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1Avalontor, that's called irony, you see: Nobody like you ***** spammers, yes you're one too I checked. So ***** Off. Funny, I thought you liked repeating text over and over, saying the same dumb ***** - the difference is I don't get paid to do it.
  • forgiste, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I didn't see a damn thing about DRM in that so-called "article". Not only that, when the hell did digg get so chock full of spammers and morons? Look at the sheer number of dugg-down comments!

    There's no story here. It got dugg to the front page artificially, I'm sure of it.
  • wonboodoo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Actual article is here: http://www.unconfirmedsources.com/?itemid=2055
    About the unconfirmedsources website: http://www.unconfirmedsources.com/privacey.php

    Zune Boards == Boneheads.

    Marked as inaccurate.
  • cyborg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2HAHA...this was seriously a big joke.....look at the disclaimer on the uncofrimedsources website. It states that " In case you didn't get it, none of the stories are real.

    It's all fake.

    We made it all up.

    It's satire.

    The people might be real but the quotes are not.

    If it gets you mad, get a life.(see first amendment)" http://www.unconfirmedsources.com/privacey.php
    this story is innacurate. digg down.
  • totorototoro, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7The real news is that there are actually enough Zune owners to even have a messageboard.
  • wildman082, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The first two words of the title sounded promising
  • aftergodsheart, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Dude! This story was submitted by a few people like 17 hours before flag564.
    • totorototoro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4aftergodsheart,
      they are just trying to keep flag564 happy, esp. after all the negative diggs and embarrassing ownage he suffers in other threads ;)
  • billycuts, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Dugg down as inaccurate
  • pcharles23, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1no need to get all hot and bothered...
    How about this... Sit back and watch apple take over
    because it's inevitable...

    :-*
    • Avalontor, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2do you really have to repeat your comments? little bit of an ego happening when you read your own words over and over again. I could say something just as stupid as you, generations will die in their chairs if they wait as you suggest..
    • ardenr, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2STFU Avalontor, you're a fanboy astroturfer too. You ***** make me sick acting like you don't get paid to do this.
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