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- gregdigg, on 10/12/2007, -3/+45They are 2x as awesome.
- afeitarse, on 10/12/2007, -3/+27Well, remember in 1992 when you had that 80mb hard drive and your os took up 20mb? You thought you'd NEVER need a hard drive that big.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20Remember swapping disks every time you walked through a door in a sierra game? :P
- scottydawg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14better snag a few terabytes of disk space first dolemite =p
- elf586, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12any DRM's are crackable for one reason....we have the key to decode it....
anything that has a DRM that we have the capability of playing means that we also have the key to decode it or it wouldnt be playable....
so it just takes time to get to that key.... - timehoc, on 10/12/2007, -12/+22Wow, Click comes with a FOUR whole deleted scenes. You can't get that with a regular DVD. Maybe three...but NO WAY four! Where do I send my money?
- ZaNkY, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13@brianpinard
Nothing is uncrackable, nothing is secure. Only Time. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12It's not even being used right now. Maybe in like 5 years they'll start to enforce it.
- dclowd9901, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I'd say action movies make better showpieces for the tech. Loud noise, sharp focus, stark contrast. Sort of like how FPS's are usually the showcases of newest graphics technologies.
- chokeslam, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Fox is Blu-ray exclusive.
- ColBuendia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I believe, yes, the whole point is that the movies will be much higher quality and look much much better on HD displays.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10I'm totally downloading this.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Early adopters like action movies?
- MyKungFu, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10when black hawk down is the least ***** movie on your list, you know you're in trouble.
- rnelsonee, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Yes, Blu-Ray spits out data at 40 Mbps while DVD is 9.8 Mbps (source: http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/). Obviously, this won't matter if the movie isn't filmed at those rates (or resolutions), but most movies today that are produced by big studios like Sony are already filmed in HD, and have been for some time. Kind of like how movies going to DVD was no problem - digital cameras were already filming at 480p before DVDs got popular.
- pegisys, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I would like to see Black Hawk Down in HD, I have the superbit DVD version and it's the best quality video out of everything I have
- BovineD, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Does this actually mean they are using a higher bitrate for the movie itself? THat would be the only real benefit unless you count watching "bonus" features and trailers in full HD a plus.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8I'd rather they use it all, then skimp me with only half the storage capacity.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5He was a crackpot, wasn't real
- Rymep, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Ha, who needs storage, it's dolemite baby.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4It seems that you care just enough to leave a comment. You've answered your own question, the answer being "No".
- waynechng, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Isn't this the 32nd different format/content in which Black Hawk Down has been released??? I can't wait for the HDDVD version now ... *sarcasm*
- sruffelman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Don't yell at someone for not being familiar with an actor whose name you can't spell.
It's "Will Ferrell." - jaycliche, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Cool, but I read about a patent at the US patent office back in the mid 90's online for a Russian guy who could put 120TB on one disc. I'll be impressed when I'm an old man, and they finally put that out...but by then 120TB won't seem quite so neat. Still would be great now...every movie at current DVD quality on one disc. Wish I still had the reference...though I bet one of you could find it...I think it was in wired too...like '94.
- sruffelman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4It will doubtless be cracked. The issue will be with getting games that take up 50GB of space onto some disc media readable by the PS3. It will take a while for Blu-Ray burners to come out and to be affordable by the average consumer.
It makes no sense pirating games if the bootleg costs more to make than buying the game itself. - Subcranium, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I know those guys. I liked Elf and Happy Gilmore.
And when you say something is a high-grossing comedy, that doesn't take inflation into account and so skews the numbers. - BasouKazuma, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2First you have to wait til someone makes a mod chip for the system. Then you have to wait even longer for a good modchip to come out. Once that is being distributed, you have to buy the system and said modchip, which will cost you a LOT of money. Then you try to install the chip and you ***** up your system. Leaving you back at square one, minus almost a grand for all the supplies.
That's what i plan on doing! - Subcranium, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2>>Then get a girlfriend or whatever and/or some friends, and see some goddamn movies in the theater.
I don't think my wife would appreciate it if I took a girlfriend to a movie.
>>My school participates in reaction testing.
When I was a little kid in school, I also saw all the top films that came out. We'll see if you still do when you have to find a babysitter to go see a movie in a theater. - mojoel, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6It'll take longer than 360, methinks. I BELIEVE the only media requirements of a 360 game is a dual-layer disk. PS3's requirement will probably need to be blu-ray or it'll just reject the game. So you'll have to burn your ps3 game on a blu-ray and if that's even possible right now, it's very expensive.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2To get the quality even close to HD-DVD, sony have to throw a ***** ton more bandwidth at their cruddy MPEG2 encrusted movies.
That bandwidth takes up space, even though they could just use a read HD codec and have even better quality in 1/2 the space. They won't do this of course, as they get more royalties from MPEG2 as someone mentioned above.
Remember, Sony don't give a damn about what is best or creating a solid product; they just want to create a perpetual licensing situation where they can just sit back and watch the money roll in.
Whats the ONLY mainstream format they ever did well with? The floppy disk! Every other attempt at complete domination of a format has failed. - LycoLoco, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4"WTF, dude, inform yourself."
The correct syntax is "Dude, WTF". - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3And look at the number of people who give a ***** about it...
- chokeslam, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4There are 2 layers of copy protection on BD's. One is the same for all discs and one is up to the studios to make for each of their discs. Fairly fool-proof.
- HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Apparently you never heard of Betacam. And CD and DVD are both half Sony's work.
They do not get higher royalties from MPEG2. - amenic, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I'm personally going to go out and Jay and Silent Bob anyone who buys Sony's non standard crap. You are making a poor consumer decision by doing so. Do us all a favor and don't!
On a side note: Can anyone verify that these discs are even using the extra storage? Or is it yet another marketing ploy by Sony? - HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Go take a look. Not only do later HD-DVD releases not look better then later BD releases, but they don't even look any different. Recent BD releases use VC-1, just like the HD-DVD releases.
BluRay supports MPEG2, VC-1 and H.264. When a company wants to store more content than can be encoded well with MPEG-2, they are free to use one of the other codecs instead. I'd recommend H.264, as VC-1 is Microsoft proprietary. - elf586, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5well lets think about this....lets use pictures as an example
say you take a low res digital photo, the size of the file is small, maybe 50kb, however when you get to a 7megapixil camera at highres you get about 1mb picture...
more space for a higherresolution.....
now i know that space is not the only factor when it comes to displaying a highres picture but it is a factor...
but i am more interested in using BD's for data storage... - palmer, on 10/12/2007, -8/+9"25 Gigs MAYBE, if packed with lots of bonus features and some HD format."
Are you serious? Did you somehow miss the fact that these are so-called HD discs?
And since they are, you'll find that even 50 GB requires a fairly pathetic bit rate.
WTF, dude, inform yourself. - davidod87, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They still haven't cracked SACD.
- kanefsky, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Blu-ray needs the extra capacity because most movies are using very inefficient MPEG2 encoding (Sony gets more royalties from MPEG2). All the HD-DVD titles are using modern codecs so their quality is higher even at 30GB.
- HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Only the first releases used MPEG2. More recent releases use VC-1, just like the HD-DVD releases.
And there's nothing ***** about MPEG2, I watch plenty of HD content on it. HBOHD, SHOHD, HDnet, all that is MPEG2, and with a max bitrate of 14mbit/s. With BluRay's 54mbits/sec, MPEG2 looks great.
People who crap on MPEG2 as not looking good just don't know what they are talking about. Given sufficient bitrate, MPEG2 looks great. And at 50GB/disc, a Dual-Layer BD has 6x as much storage as a DVD. HD also has 6x as many pixels as a DVD. So the level of compression is no different than that on a DVD. Are you saying DVDs don't look great (for SD)?
The reason the first BDs didn't look as good as the first HD-DVDs is because the mastering and conversion wasn't as good. Now BluRay discs and HD-DVDs are made from the same masters and typically even use the same compression, so there's no quality difference at all. - triplehelix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1you can get blu-ray disks from blockbuster online. i imagine it would be the same for netflix.
- mack1082, on 10/12/2007, -8/+8So what makes these movies better than those on 25GB disks? They don't mention any benefits. Is this really news?
- amenic, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Are you Jack Handy?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I know its crazy ah can't wait to get more movies like this blu-ray FTW
- alistairosborne, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3Theoretically they should surpass the current HD-DVD offerings as they can use a higher bit rate due to the larger capacity, where currently the quality is equal between the two formats.
- ZaNkY, on 10/12/2007, -18/+17ummmm Why?
Since when have we needed 50 Gigabytes for movies? 25 Gigs MAYBE, if packed with lots of bonus features and some HD format. But 50 Gigs? Waste if you ask me. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1WTF!
Go read any format Vs format comparison and without exception the quality on bluray is inferior to what HD is currently giving.
A lot of it has to do with BD using ***** MPEG2 compression while HD is using the new made-for HD system instead. - mistersh0w, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1sruffelman, the "premium" PS3 has a 60gb harddrive in the box... shouldn't be hard downloading 50gb games and sending them to the ps3 harddrive....wink wink.....
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Probably not for long! Movie studios want their movies to look as good as a rival studio's movies, and bluray with its bad MPEG2 format HD is making HD-DVD look MUCH MUCH better.
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