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- mc7winkie, on 10/12/2007, -4/+46Comment abuse, but really I hate how we can't just get a link to a real story instead of some commentary of a story. pretty lame.
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37215 - TheYellowMole, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25Staff: That guy just won the jackpot! Quick, pull the lever!
Machine:(Flashes to BSoD) - theblooms, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16"which leaves me wondering what else they're vulnerable to."
Read Kevin Mitnick's "The Art of Intrusion" and you will know. (Well it was actually Poker machines his book addressed, but still) - rcran, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9"Are you sure you want me to steal all your money?"
- DarthMacgyver, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Actually, they would. Casinos have a rule, if the the machine fails, all jackpots are void.
I know it sucks. - diabolicglacier, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Now? Hell, I had no hope even before I saw this.
- jrbrewin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9you must use a different, amazing and never crashing osx to me. true, no bsod, but not immune to crashes. dugg down.
- jrbrewin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7i thought most electric gambling machines such as the ones found in big casinos ran on terminal services, with the boxes on the floor running thin clients. which makes the gambling servers easier to monitor for faults, and to protect against malicious attacks, and to maintain the clients. odd then that these appear to be fat clients.
but then, it's beta!! :D - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8In all likelyhood this just proves that these machines are just as liable to have hardware problems as any other machines.
- sannm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7This reminds me of the time I withdrew some money for a friend one night. I put in the card, entered the pin, got the $50, then the screen flashed real quick. I looked closer and the atm "program" was no longer running full screen it was in a window and I noticed the good old windows xp startbar on the bottom. It was a touchscreen so I opened paint and before left my "wtf windows xp?" message I realized it might not be best to try something silly on an atm thats was taping me the whole time so I left, but wow some small banks are scary.
- Recusant, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13I'll stick with my quarter-on-a-string h4x, thank you.
- loup, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I serviced ATMs for a while, all the ones I worked on were running Windows NT, Windows XP or OS/2
- felderado, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6http://www.networkworld.com/newsletters/linux/2004/0202linux2.html
Many many MANY slot machines run Linux. It's cheaper and safer to do so. - diggenerate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3that is not even a slot machine. it is just one of those multi-game machines that are found in just about every bar in the world.
- inferno10, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Gambler: "Seven....Seven! SEV-"
*bsod*
Gambler: "NOOOOOOO!!!!!!" - sephiroth965, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Gambling machines are much better regulated than voting machines. This is actually pretty unusual.
- EquinnoxX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3They'll probably deny that poor saps jackpot too!
- FizixMan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2WOW! So that software glitch excuse casinos use as a cop-out to paying out the jackpots really does exist! Pffft
- Avalontor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Kernel Panic or BSOD?
http://www.pandasys.co.uk/panic.jpg - markdr123, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yep, BSoDs on ATMs are very common indeed.
- h0dg3s, on 10/12/2007, -12/+13blogspam.
real story at http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37215 - fofusion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hey I'd be more worried that a high percentage of ATM's use windows.
The one near my house runs windows 2000 and I saw it one time stuck on the desktop. - D3koy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6You could be just pouring you money into a mac...at least with windows you have a chance of getting some cash back...
- chucali, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1yea and some pay more than others.
- ryland2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@h0dg3s
Did you just call gizmodo blogspam? - ccanni1028, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I see at least one ATM at my college campus either with a BSOD or an error message that you can't get around every few weeks.
- d03boy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I won a couple hundred on flaming 7's (I think thats what it was...) a few weeks ago. My first time gambling so it was fun.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2For some reason i feel smarter and more informed after reading this
- PathDaemon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1'twas a demonstration of a new über-reliable machine, not an in-service model.
That suxx. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Haven't you read? Digg spam is the easiest way to drive up your adsense revenues and your ratings. Why would anyone link directly to the story when you can, instead, link through a blog that has lots of tasty advertising on it?
The world will be saved when the advertisers wake up and realize that no-one clicks on the bloody things. Especially the 14-24 years olds who frequent Digg. Since we now have plenty of pay per exposure advertisers, you don't need to click on anything. Just expose it.
BTW, in regards to this story, it was an a show, not in use It is a prototype. Not that real ones can't crash, but it kinda takes the fun out of the story... - histoplasmosis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah hacking a slot in vegas doesn't sound like much fun. Or maybe its the hard bounce off of the concrete at the end that doesn't sound like fun.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I work at a Credit Union, we probably would get a nice kick out of seeing a message like that put onto our screen after a malfunction.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Your talking about the Philly Park Casino, where the man's machine read that he won $100,000.
Well the issue really was that he had no winning combination nor does the machine pay out more then 5k. That really was a glitch - roadtrippy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Well, forget about ever winning that big jackpot in Vegas now.
- Nazuel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"and the gaming machines will even go as far as restoring the previous known state, so you don't lose your winnings"
This is not new. Gaming machines have had this "feature" for some time now, in fact they won't make it past regulatory inspection without the ability to recover previous states after a crash. On rare occasions the memory will become corrupt and all data will be lost, but given the amount of usage and the fact that most casinos never turn them off slot machines are very reliable. As for the Malfunctions Void all Pays and Plays, this is a "cover our ass" scenario which is rarely invoked. Most casinos will do their best to pay out what a guest is owed, even in the event of a malfunction. This is why they employ house technicians. Unless you are at some fly-by-night property, you are most likely to be paid what you are owed. - verstohlen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I read a story a few days ago about one Casino refusing to pay a slot machine jackpot because their machine had a glitch. Sure it did. Those kinds of stories don't leave me with much confidence in a casino, and less likely to even play one of those slots.
- dreamlayers, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2In the blog he says "I used to think these things were like ATMs—meaning they were indestructible". Well, take a look at this: http://images.google.com/images?q=atm+bsod
- sbrickner, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It may be a "cover your ass" provision, but I'm not so sure that it's "rarely invoked". In the past three months I've heard of at least four cases of it being invoked. Each time to deny quite large winnings - the smallest was $100k. I guess that they either just pay off the little ones, like you suggest, or their refusal doesn't make the news for little ones.
What I object to is that in at least three of the cases, it was due to a "software glitch" - the machine didn't have any sort of mechanical failure. It was purely a bug in the software. I can't see how they can justify that as a "failure". It's not like some software was in there that wasn't supposed to be - the machine operated correctly, running the software that they intended to install. That the software didn't say what they thought it said shouldn't be any kind of defense. - jrbrewin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1do you really think an ATM is like your mom's pc that's riddled with malware, porn popups / dialers, browser helper objects, tcp/ip / execute hooks, and viruses? do you really think that an ATM even has access to an unsecured network, and even if it did, do you think the services it runs run with administrative rights? do you think at all?
- felderado, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1avalonator:
You're likely to find many many pictures of Kernel Panics because that's what you do --- you take pictures of them and let the developers see them so they know what's wrong.
People take pictures of blue screens in windows because "they're funny". There's nothing remotely useful on those blue screens except a driver listed. - bigbadbyte, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I guess windows has found another way to screw you out of your money,
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2speaking of flaming, all slots are sucker bets its not the machine its being in front of it when it is programed to pay
- Avalontor, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Kernel Panic
- raindogmx, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Is it just me or it doesn't really look like a BSOD? Anyway, it could be caused by very bad programming and testing, something which can happen in any platform.
- goonmaster, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Have you seen the old man
In the closed-down market
Kicking up the paper,
with his worn out shoes?
In his eyes you see no pride
And held loosely at his side
Yesterday's paper telling yesterday's news - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Dugg down for Ralph McTell
- chucali, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2those new fancy slot machines suck and they never pay they just eat your money. if you want to win play flaming 7's, party pooper or slots with bonus games or video poker. i won $1,500 last week at the casino and won $1,000 on flaming 7's 3 times last year and i don't even play much.
- Avalontor, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5Google search for pics on Kernel Panic = 2470
Google search for pics on BSOD = 6020
hmmm, you do the math based on market share. - Dustgunner, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1It's called SARCASM.
- d03boy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Or come cRash back
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