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- McGrude, on 04/03/2008, -8/+476Whoever decided to put the server room there is an idiot.
- macfanboi, on 04/03/2008, -5/+53And should be fired.
- EwMo, on 04/03/2008, -3/+33or left to die with his servers
- yerbestfrend12, on 04/03/2008, -18/+1They should be sentenced to bukakke.
- acdcfanbill, on 04/03/2008, -4/+4give or take bukakke?
hrm, or maybe the terminology is 'throw' and 'catch' :S
- acdcfanbill, on 04/03/2008, -4/+4give or take bukakke?
- megamod, on 04/03/2008, -6/+3or be tied up with those networking cables and left to drown.
- a1532b, on 04/03/2008, -3/+4They look like noodles...Now I'm gonna have to make server spaghetti!
- mysedai, on 04/03/2008, -1/+6@a1532b: That's because they're made in his noodley image.
- cosmotron, on 04/03/2008, -1/+10Like a captain going down with his ship.
- moyness, on 04/03/2008, -8/+1I Read that as 'a captain going down ON his ship' .
That'd be kinky.
- moyness, on 04/03/2008, -8/+1I Read that as 'a captain going down ON his ship' .
- CthulhuDawn, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1Turn on the Halon!
- yerbestfrend12, on 04/03/2008, -18/+1They should be sentenced to bukakke.
- chronusmcgee, on 04/04/2008, -0/+3Note to self: Move server room out of basement.
- EwMo, on 04/03/2008, -3/+33or left to die with his servers
- Otnehs, on 04/03/2008, -2/+163Don't shun the techs, these are just state-of-the-art water-cooled servers!
- megamod, on 04/03/2008, -41/+2you bastard...you broke the chain!!! This whole comment and replies look hideous now thanks to you...or did you not see the series of boolean statements of what should be done to "Whoever decided to put the server room there". epic fail of coolness....
- forgiste, on 04/03/2008, -0/+28uhm, that's up there ^, this is a totally different reply thread. plus you're a dork.
- rootneg2, on 04/03/2008, -1/+88They're clearly optimized for floating point operations.
- Stadtkind, on 04/04/2008, -0/+7*badabishshsh*
- mysedai, on 04/03/2008, -0/+2Shun. Shuuuun.
- badjoke, on 04/04/2008, -0/+3http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_ehXRc2YNU
- rootneg2, on 04/05/2008, -0/+1i think it was actually in reference to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5im0Ssyyus
that one was still pretty funny though.... - mysedai, on 04/10/2008, -0/+1Actually, you are correct, sir. It was Charlie the Unicorn that inspired me.
I will watch the other as soon as I'm not in the school computer lab.
- rootneg2, on 04/05/2008, -0/+1i think it was actually in reference to this:
- badjoke, on 04/04/2008, -0/+3http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_ehXRc2YNU
- LeeSoong, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1Now he wont have any trouble generating realistic waves and water reflections on the rendering farm...
- megamod, on 04/03/2008, -41/+2you bastard...you broke the chain!!! This whole comment and replies look hideous now thanks to you...or did you not see the series of boolean statements of what should be done to "Whoever decided to put the server room there". epic fail of coolness....
- jorisb, on 04/03/2008, -1/+19I worked in a large office where the server room was located on the third floor. A large water-pipe burst on the floor above and drenched the server room. There was about 4 inches of water below the raised floor, but because most connections were made above this floor. The damage was minimal and most servers just kept running.
- RogerStrong, on 04/03/2008, -0/+31I once took a tech support call from someone who's building was on fire, wasn't leaving without the server, and wanted help disconnecting it. Quickly.
This was just a couple months after a fire at another customer - who made backups religiously but didn't take them off-site.- Elliuotatar, on 04/03/2008, -1/+25Well? Did he succeed, or burn to death?
- RogerStrong, on 04/03/2008, -0/+19Success, no injuries to life, limb or data.
Major damage to the building and stock though. - redfox2600, on 04/04/2008, -0/+4Was it this guy?
http://newkoman.mireene.com/tt/attach/1/1088607111 ...
- RogerStrong, on 04/03/2008, -0/+19Success, no injuries to life, limb or data.
- Clumber, on 04/03/2008, -0/+8The company I was with when the Pacific Northwest Earthquake occurred a couple years ago, had their server room in the basement. The earthquake burst pipes throughout the 4 story building. Gravity + water... There was probably almost enough standing water in the server rooms (which served international offices as well, btw) to go swimming. The building - only 7 years new - was red-tagged and we weren't able to re-enter the building for 6 months. Oh yeah, that was expensive... On the plus side for peons like me, it sure ushered in an environment favorable to telecommuting. Well, until the massive layoffs 1 year later, anyhow...
- Elliuotatar, on 04/03/2008, -1/+25Well? Did he succeed, or burn to death?
- Wristo, on 04/03/2008, -0/+2He really could have used one of these: http://www.portableclusters.com
- KnifeOrSpoon, on 04/03/2008, -0/+2It's accidents like this which make insurance a bitch for Datacentres. Here in Australia you only get cheaper insurance if your DC is on the top floor of a secured building and outside the 25 kilometer radius from the Central Business District.
- RogerStrong, on 04/03/2008, -0/+31I once took a tech support call from someone who's building was on fire, wasn't leaving without the server, and wanted help disconnecting it. Quickly.
- ligyron, on 04/03/2008, -9/+2That's not funny. My other computer died that way
- moyness, on 04/03/2008, -5/+1LFMAO.
- screwfanboys1, on 04/04/2008, -1/+1ur doin it wrong
- pipermike, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2do a barrel roll instead
- expert01, on 04/04/2008, -0/+3Lando ***** my ass-ole?
- moyness, on 04/03/2008, -5/+1LFMAO.
- jhuebel, on 04/03/2008, -1/+95The sad truth is that the IT department probably didn't make the decision to put the server room there. The powers-that-be often consider server rooms as wasted space that they don't want taking up valuable office space above ground.
- TecHeavy, on 04/03/2008, -1/+22your absolutely right about that.
- badjoke, on 04/04/2008, -1/+4What about his "absolutely right about that"?
- DrakeRangoon, on 04/04/2008, -1/+2Bad joke, badjoke.
- badjoke, on 04/05/2008, -0/+1You're incredibly creative.
- Icelightning, on 04/03/2008, -0/+7And that's why the IT departments will be showing the powers-that-be this video in the future, I'd hope.
- TimeLincoln, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1Which is why all the techs should walk out and quit.
- TecHeavy, on 04/04/2008, -1/+1Can you imagine the look on their faces if we all did that? They would ***** themselves. LOL
- TecHeavy, on 04/03/2008, -1/+22your absolutely right about that.
- scubaman5000, on 04/03/2008, -0/+33I think the bigger problem is that they have a room with a waterfall in it. I don't think that was intended.
- patm1987, on 04/04/2008, -0/+3This is a common issue with the waterfall method of application development. This is obviously a sign that they should move to an Iterative and Incremental Development model (IID) like Scrum or eXtreme Programming.
- elf25, on 04/03/2008, -1/+12Not at all, toss down a whole bunch of river rock and call it a "water feature".
- themastersb, on 04/03/2008, -4/+4These are liquid cooled servers. Allows for better performance.
- Enderplayer1, on 04/03/2008, -0/+12well there's your problem
- TimeLincoln, on 04/04/2008, -1/+2Must have been my school's tech staff...
- kd1s, on 04/04/2008, -1/+7The reason that happens is because usually I.T. is an afterthought.
When I was the Director of I.T. for the RI Attorney General I became quite concerned that our server room was not only in the basement but behind a boiler room and a boiler on the other side of the wall. Not to mention that it was about 125 feet away from the Providence River.
Now you have to understand that all the criminal information for the state was housed on a redundant setup that was right on that wall.
I sent a memo up the chain that said we should take at least one of those servers and either move it up to the 2nd floor with it's own disk array, or move one server and disk array to the RI State Police Barracks so that in the event of a disaster of some sort the probability of losing both sites was rather low since they were separated by about 15 miles.
They never took up either suggestion. Not that they haven't had a couple of close calls since even when I was there we experienced the occasional flood though it was only a few inches of water.
When I worked for the Sec State I said I wanted a raised floor of 8" to 10" because we were at ground level with the West River at our back door. Managed to get all of it, raised floor, redundant power, redundant cooling. Grant money is so nice.- 95acex, on 04/04/2008, -0/+10Here, you dropped these. RI Attorney General, Secretary of State.
- kd1s, on 04/05/2008, -0/+1Yes, I was a state gov guy. No more though, the only state job I'll ever take again is in academia.
- Masticity, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1You have something on your nose...
- 95acex, on 04/04/2008, -0/+10Here, you dropped these. RI Attorney General, Secretary of State.
- djbon2112, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2That made me cry a little bit on the inside. :(
- DarkDx, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2Notice how Windows is vulnerable to infiltration
- macfanboi, on 04/03/2008, -5/+53And should be fired.
- jjgames, on 04/03/2008, -3/+190I can just see the tech guys going home and complaining about their day. "And then all the computers crashed because a torrent of water came through the window."
- orangetiki, on 04/03/2008, -7/+45At least they can't use bit torrent as an excuse for the servers being slow. bad pun I know but I had to
- cozmoz365, on 04/03/2008, -0/+5Nah! Just blame Deluge!
- ChaosProfessor, on 04/03/2008, -0/+16I don't think they would be going home
- PixelMagic, on 04/03/2008, -33/+5Ha, a torrent is also a file type for looking up download locations. I bet you didn't know that.
- Akadjjoel, on 04/03/2008, -2/+20Are you a ***** idiot?
- Speed, on 04/03/2008, -0/+19Of course not, he's a Digg user. Idiot, most likely. *****, no.
- PixelMagic, on 04/06/2008, -0/+1Sarcasm detector malfunctioning.
- Akadjjoel, on 04/03/2008, -2/+20Are you a ***** idiot?
- nphase, on 04/03/2008, -2/+7dugg for the word "torrent"
- rabiddachshund, on 04/04/2008, -3/+3and "window." Double pun!
- TheFinaleofSeem, on 04/03/2008, -1/+6I'd think they'd prefer the servers getting taken down by a SYN flood, not the literal kind. What a mess.
- mightycbu, on 04/03/2008, -0/+13there we go again... always bashing windows :P
- fwertz, on 04/04/2008, -2/+2Lol tech guys going home to women.
- Archer007, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2Hehe, torrents crashed their servers.
- DarkDx, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2Notice how Windows is vulnerable to infiltration
- orangetiki, on 04/03/2008, -7/+45At least they can't use bit torrent as an excuse for the servers being slow. bad pun I know but I had to
- orangetiki, on 04/03/2008, -5/+79outsourcing architectural design to china SEEMED like an ok idea.
How much water was behind that window at the end I wanna know.- rabiddachshund, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2Actually they're probably in Australia because they've obviously using a Telstra BigPond network.
- slowmo, on 04/03/2008, -63/+8Water cooled? Actually it looks like it either happened before or they were anticipating it because the raised floor was definitely there for that specific reason.
- buadach, on 04/03/2008, -3/+70There are raised floors exactly like this one in every data centre I have ever been in.
- Harabeck, on 04/03/2008, -9/+3Wal-Mart's server room(at least the one in their IT departement) has no such floor.
- cmuwriter, on 04/03/2008, -2/+11Don't be a douche.
- aywwts4, on 04/03/2008, -0/+12Do they have a drop ceiling or suspended wiring racks, both systems are used but raised floors are more common since you can fill the whole floor with cool air easily and pump the cool air up and use the ceiling to pull the hot air out.
- GoodOlClint, on 04/04/2008, -1/+1Walmart has a system about 100 miles north of here in a cave.
Who needs a drop ceiling or raised floors when batman takes care of your servers?
- GoodOlClint, on 04/04/2008, -1/+1Walmart has a system about 100 miles north of here in a cave.
- Harabeck, on 04/03/2008, -9/+3Wal-Mart's server room(at least the one in their IT departement) has no such floor.
- snoopyloopy, on 04/03/2008, -5/+76The Raised floor is for cabling it was not meant for water!
- Otto, on 04/03/2008, -0/+28No, bad idea. You should not use raised floors for cabling.
Raised floors were actually originally meant to allow for air flow through the cabinets. The bottom of the server racks are open, sitting with open raised floor underneath, and the exhaust (possibly with a fan) is on top. Cooled air is blown into the floor area, heat from the server's rises and is exhausted out the top, sucking in cool air from below. The under floor space must have proper drainage, because condensation from cooling devices always goes somewhere.
Wiring should always be above the raised floor, in wire ladder systems. Although most cabinets have their wiring internal and then the only thing to need to route to them is power and ethernet interconnects, if you placed your hardware correctly.
Of course, as time went on, heat production dropped and the hardware grew more numerous. More racks get added, and cables start getting routed through the convenient under the floor space. Still, it's not a good idea, for reasons that you've just witnessed.
- Otto, on 04/03/2008, -0/+28No, bad idea. You should not use raised floors for cabling.
- trghpy, on 04/03/2008, -5/+21Raised floors for moving air (and water if you water cool).
The tiles in front of the servers have holes to let cold air out to feed the intakes of the servers.
Wiring should be on a wire ladder and not under the floor. You'll have a rats nest in no time if you go under the floor.- OverlordXenu, on 04/03/2008, -0/+1Wait, servers are actually water cooled? Isn't that too much of a risk?
- logandurand, on 04/03/2008, -0/+4Usually it's not "water" but a synthetic, non-conductive coolant fluid, though water works fine.
- Coded1, on 04/03/2008, -0/+4Many liquids are non-conductive when pure but when impurities get into them it is the impurities that conduct and not the fluid ;)
- logandurand, on 04/03/2008, -0/+4Usually it's not "water" but a synthetic, non-conductive coolant fluid, though water works fine.
- OverlordXenu, on 04/03/2008, -0/+1Wait, servers are actually water cooled? Isn't that too much of a risk?
- Radworld4, on 04/03/2008, -4/+6Welcome to the dimmest comment of the day
- darkfus, on 04/03/2008, -0/+11Thanks for making me laugh. Now go check out a server room sometime.
- buadach, on 04/03/2008, -3/+70There are raised floors exactly like this one in every data centre I have ever been in.
- loki1983, on 04/03/2008, -4/+21hope they had a sump pump.
- clickwir, on 04/03/2008, -0/+3There was one part there it did look like there was a red/orange 1-2" hose moving water.
Why not just pile up some sand outside those windows?- twiztedambience, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1yea exactly. do something rather than just video tape water coming in frying your equipment. Obviously something broke, so go fix it before it gets worse
- JohnCrock, on 04/03/2008, -0/+35I don't know, I think it would be pretty useful to have a moat like that around the servers to keep all them Trojan Horses at bay.
- tpv2066, on 04/03/2008, -2/+5i think this is the best digg comment I have ever seen.
- sporg, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2What no one taught these sailors basic damage control? You jam rolled up cloth or mattresses against the breach and brace it with timbers or whatever is available. Then you man the pumps like mad. You don't stand around filming like a tourist while the boat fills up.
- expert01, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1At least they had the foresight for raised floors. Although Google in "When Sysadmins Ruled the Earth" had a giant server structure on shock mountings with independent power.
- clickwir, on 04/03/2008, -0/+3There was one part there it did look like there was a red/orange 1-2" hose moving water.
- kagayaki1, on 04/03/2008, -16/+6Music is cliche, but the video is priceless.
- LongShlong, on 04/03/2008, -3/+16How can that song be cliche?
- Akaji, on 04/03/2008, -2/+11Maybe he thinks that "cliche" means "classic"?
- bitterbug, on 04/03/2008, -4/+3Nah, cliche is used in the right context here. The song gets used for anything that ends up soaked in water, making it a cliche to use it once again for something involving flooding or raining.
- jhuebel, on 04/03/2008, -1/+4But in this case, rain was the actual cause. So I would say "apropos", not "cliche".
- bitterbug, on 04/03/2008, -0/+1@jheubel
True, it's really subjective in that regard.
- xGuerrillaRadio, on 04/03/2008, -2/+1Hurricane Katrina?
- jhuebel, on 04/03/2008, -0/+1Highly unlikely. Basements aren't commonplace in the south. Particularly along the Gulf coast.
- bitterbug, on 04/03/2008, -4/+3Nah, cliche is used in the right context here. The song gets used for anything that ends up soaked in water, making it a cliche to use it once again for something involving flooding or raining.
- Akaji, on 04/03/2008, -2/+11Maybe he thinks that "cliche" means "classic"?
- fin01, on 04/04/2008, -0/+0Every time I hear that song I'm reminded of that rape scene in Clockwork Orange...that movie's gonna haunt me for the rest of my life :(
- LongShlong, on 04/03/2008, -3/+16How can that song be cliche?
- frontporsche, on 04/03/2008, -1/+72I hate it when that happens.
- callmejordy265, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1I just died a little bit inside.
- ryan83189, on 04/03/2008, -23/+62This happens everytime a story is submitted to digg.
- drastik21, on 04/03/2008, -5/+12I see what you did ther
- h0ms4r, on 04/03/2008, -3/+16e
- drastik21, on 04/03/2008, -3/+18The server cut me off
- Atomic1fire, on 04/04/2008, -2/+10.
- h0ms4r, on 04/03/2008, -3/+16e
- drastik21, on 04/03/2008, -5/+12I see what you did ther
- KeepOffMyLawn, on 04/03/2008, -2/+28Break out the WetVac.
- twiztedambience, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2But seriously, rather than just stand there and watch the water come in, go get a wet and get some kind of material to try and plug the holes. Find out what the problem is. I'd rather do that than sit there with a video camera like a moron as more equipment gets fried.
- Cgeoffrion, on 04/03/2008, -2/+151thats why I always build in a drainage system into the floors of my server rooms. some called me crazy, but i think this video proves my point. plus its no big thaaaang if we wanna set up a slip n slide in there, and cmon, who doesn't get those urges?
- centran, on 04/03/2008, -0/+48Well... as I am sure you are well aware by now but for those who don't know; if you have a drain that never gets used such as in a server room then make sure to pour a cup or two of water down the drain about once a month. That drain pipe goes into a bigger pipe that is connecting to the sewers. Drain pipes have a U in the pipe so that water gets trapped at the very bottom. This will prevent sewer gas/smell from coming back up the pipe. If the drain never gets water then the water in the U will evaporate and whatever room that drain is in will start to smell like a sewer.
- Skier4Life, on 04/03/2008, -1/+9This exact same thing happened in one of the labs at my work today. Came in today and the 2nd floor lab smelled of sewer because the trap had dried out.
- kohan69, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1It's a trap!!
- Cgeoffrion, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2the more you know
- Skier4Life, on 04/03/2008, -1/+9This exact same thing happened in one of the labs at my work today. Came in today and the 2nd floor lab smelled of sewer because the trap had dried out.
- bitterbug, on 04/03/2008, -1/+4A sump pump wouldn't hurt either, since a regular drain into the sewer system would just back up under that much water load.
- Zera, on 04/03/2008, -1/+3If the sewer system backs up, then WHERE IS THE SUMP GOING TO BE PUMPING TO????
LOL- lotu, on 04/04/2008, -1/+10Somebody else's server room.
- bitterbug, on 04/04/2008, -1/+3Cisterns or back out into the street.
It doesn't matter if the water keeps coming back, as long as your pumping it out fast enough to keep the water level from rising.
If you have a boat with a hole in it, as long as you bail faster than the water comes in, you won't sink. - Zera, on 04/05/2008, -0/+1My point being, 99.9% of sumps pump to a drain that goes to the sewer. And no, that amount of water is not enough to "back up" the sewer.
- Zera, on 04/03/2008, -1/+3If the sewer system backs up, then WHERE IS THE SUMP GOING TO BE PUMPING TO????
- coopa, on 04/03/2008, -0/+3This why you always have a Disaster Recovery plan and keep a backup serves offsite, preferably in more than one location.
- chris1337, on 04/03/2008, -2/+1No, thats why you don't build servers in a place that floods easily.
- Wiini, on 04/03/2008, -0/+8Yeah right there with you buddy, That's why I always build my stuff inside of a nuclear bunker suspended in an oxygen free home.
- integra_140, on 04/03/2008, -0/+1This actually happened to a server room I worked in. One of the air conditioners sprung a leak (wasn't this bad but still a lake below the raised floor). It doesn't actually hurt anything because the power and network cables are sealed.
- cnot3, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1DRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGE
- centran, on 04/03/2008, -0/+48Well... as I am sure you are well aware by now but for those who don't know; if you have a drain that never gets used such as in a server room then make sure to pour a cup or two of water down the drain about once a month. That drain pipe goes into a bigger pipe that is connecting to the sewers. Drain pipes have a U in the pipe so that water gets trapped at the very bottom. This will prevent sewer gas/smell from coming back up the pipe. If the drain never gets water then the water in the U will evaporate and whatever room that drain is in will start to smell like a sewer.
- Lapdog1123, on 04/03/2008, -23/+4My whole office is laughing there ass off....
- cmuwriter, on 04/03/2008, -4/+15Their even...
- AaronSTL, on 04/03/2008, -0/+7asses even (unless everyone in the office shares one ass)
If you're going to be pedantic you might as well be thorough.
- AaronSTL, on 04/03/2008, -0/+7asses even (unless everyone in the office shares one ass)
- cmuwriter, on 04/03/2008, -4/+15Their even...
- cababika799, on 04/03/2008, -17/+9Mirror?
- cdemi, on 04/03/2008, -3/+44you can see the reflection in the water. no need for a mirror
- fuzzmeister, on 04/03/2008, -1/+39It's Google Video. Trust me, it isn't down.
- CarStan, on 04/03/2008, -1/+9@fuzzmeister: What you didnt know is: Thats the Google-Video Servers in the Video
- fuzzmeister, on 04/03/2008, -2/+1Ah, of course.
By the way, lay off the twitter, it's starting to creep into your digg comments :-)
- fuzzmeister, on 04/03/2008, -2/+1Ah, of course.
- CarStan, on 04/03/2008, -1/+9@fuzzmeister: What you didnt know is: Thats the Google-Video Servers in the Video
- pandorazboxx, on 04/03/2008, -0/+10i think its too complicated of a joke for people.... servers, flooded, probably down.... see where he was going with this?
- cababika799, on 04/03/2008, -1/+2Thanks for covering....and good joke....sadly even I wasn't that smart.
- Coded1, on 04/03/2008, -1/+1LULZ
- cababika799, on 04/03/2008, -1/+2Thanks for covering....and good joke....sadly even I wasn't that smart.
- cababika799, on 04/03/2008, -4/+2So none of you jack asses are blocked from watching google videos? If I wanted to give a reason for wanting a mirror I would have included it.
Either help out or STFU!- calu99, on 04/03/2008, -0/+7now everyone wants to help you
- FlimBlimmer, on 04/03/2008, -0/+0I dug your rage.
- Yodacola, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1Use SSH, jerk.
- ManOfVirtues, on 04/03/2008, -2/+11we are having all kinds of server issues this week, this video makes me thankful for the problems we are having. Ironicly its raining like that here today.
- laserblazer, on 04/03/2008, -0/+26Coincidentally, not ironically.
- teh_techie, on 04/03/2008, -1/+7Coincidence FTW!
- rockchops, on 04/03/2008, -0/+4Uhm, Bill? You might want to come down the basement floor server room.... I have some bad news...
- flip360, on 04/03/2008, -0/+3Bill Lumbergh?
- laserblazer, on 04/03/2008, -0/+26Coincidentally, not ironically.
- chumprock, on 04/03/2008, -0/+120All Plumbing should be routed on the outside walls or not at all.
All HVAC should be installed at a 6 inch depth below the floor level with adequate drainage.
All waterfalls should be properly rerouted... - abshack, on 04/03/2008, -0/+28haha... who's the dunce who came up with that bright idea.
"A Licensed building contractor, who made the lowest bid during the board meeting..."
Pretty sure that was a public building. Nowhere else could you get that stupid.- mercury187, on 04/03/2008, -0/+4"hey good news dood, with all that money we saved using that cheap contractor we'll be able to start rebuilding in no time! told you it was a good idea...."
wuh waah - skiblur, on 04/03/2008, -0/+4All contractors build strictly according to the plans and specs issued in the Contract Documents. They were just following orders by some dunce of an architect (or worse, a board/committee who knows nothing about designing buildings). Now if some building malfunction caused the flooding, the contractor would be responsible, but a design flaw is architectural.
- dumpyhumpy, on 04/03/2008, -0/+1You're getting buried, but most of the time that is the case. And it would be the engineer's fault as well. The arch and eng have to agree on mechanical location.
- MixedSpleens, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1Im willing to guess that server room was retrofitted in, and that under normal conditions the light well/mech access does drain but it got backed up. I'm not going to say that it couldn't have been foreseen that there might be a problem here but honestly how often do you get a waterfall in your basement
- mercury187, on 04/03/2008, -0/+4"hey good news dood, with all that money we saved using that cheap contractor we'll be able to start rebuilding in no time! told you it was a good idea...."
- ensta2, on 04/03/2008, -6/+24shouldn't your server room be on a higher floor not in the basement?
- rebelcommander, on 04/03/2008, -0/+44But the higher floors are for the "important" people, the server room should be in the basement because nobody really needs those computer things anyways.
- roomforpanic, on 04/03/2008, -1/+14No, higher floors make the basement dwellers nervous.
- dlightle, on 04/03/2008, -0/+9But...heat rises...
- teh_techie, on 04/03/2008, -2/+3But... that's what Air Conditioning is for...
- Magicmasta, on 04/03/2008, -0/+2saves on the heating bill
- centran, on 04/03/2008, -0/+9Nah... then it is more like a dungeon and those geeks like being in dungeons with dragons... right?
But on a more serious note. If your server room is on the bottom of the building then you don't have to worry about over-loading the floor joists. Servers are heavy and if the room was not built specifically for that kind of load bearing in mind you could easily threaten the structural integrity of that floor and maybe even the entire building. - BlackJackJester, on 04/03/2008, -0/+8In truth, most server rooms and data centers are underground near the foundation for natural disaster protections - ie earthquake, tornado, lightning. A properly built room won't have leaks, like this one :P.
- OverlordXenu, on 04/03/2008, -0/+1Yeah, I would think it makes more sense to just not have windows near the servers...
- fuzzybeard, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1I thought the basement was where the grad students & post-docs were kept?
- martinherrera, on 04/03/2008, -1/+48I guess we really can't blame that on Microsoft
- cdemi, on 04/03/2008, -5/+221the water was pouring from Windows...
- dlightle, on 04/03/2008, -0/+30At least they didn't freeze yet.
- absentmindedjwc, on 04/03/2008, -1/+14well played sir
- Speed, on 04/03/2008, -2/+1But there was no blue screen of death...
- alacava, on 04/03/2008, -0/+13Yes, there is a blue stream of death
- battletrax, on 04/22/2008, -0/+1Tobad he didn't have virus protection. Those windows looked like they were going to break.
- dlightle, on 04/03/2008, -0/+30At least they didn't freeze yet.
- soupdawg30, on 04/03/2008, -7/+3You can blame anything on Microsoft.
- jabberwolf, on 04/03/2008, -5/+6Wait, I'm sure the Mac crowd hasnt gotten here yet. They ALWAYS find something to blame on windows!
- absentmindedjwc, on 04/03/2008, -1/+10well... the window was the vulnerability.... :p
- Macskeeball, on 04/04/2008, -1/+1I'm a Mac user, but aqua was the problem here.
- acatzr800, on 04/03/2008, -3/+2No, but we can blame it on Bush and the RIAA
- G-RaZoR, on 04/03/2008, -1/+8***** THE RIAA!
- Macskeeball, on 04/04/2008, -0/+3Poor penguins. Sun (Microsystems) overheated their ice and turned it into Aqua, which became a Blue Stream Of Death.
- cdemi, on 04/03/2008, -5/+221the water was pouring from Windows...
- Kaervek, on 04/03/2008, -1/+5Oh my god. What a nightmare!
- EwMo, on 04/03/2008, -0/+4That sucks...
- benkraj, on 04/03/2008, -1/+480Liquid Cooling.
You're doing it wrong.- jcani, on 04/03/2008, -0/+10thanks! My keyboard is now soaked in spit water
- Csaliture, on 04/03/2008, -0/+2facepalm
- pakakapa, on 04/03/2008, -1/+6so much potential but took so long for someone to nail it
- Mesa2gDSM, on 04/03/2008, -0/+7This comment reminded me of why i love digg, thanks :)
- rickygw, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1you win the internet. grats.
- R0l0, on 04/03/2008, -7/+2rain shower?
- kinneys, on 04/03/2008, -5/+153Bet the helpdesk was flooded with calls.
- jabberwolf, on 04/03/2008, -2/+2oh gaawwd!!
- dudetaz2003, on 04/03/2008, -0/+8So bad yet so funny
- PixelMagic, on 04/03/2008, -1/+6*rimshot*
- cthulhupunk0, on 04/03/2008, -0/+2I'm working at a (thankfully different) helpdesk right now, and your comment has part of me crying on the inside.
- 1timeuser, on 04/03/2008, -1/+7I see what you did there.
- pipermike, on 04/04/2008, -1/+1gg
- cmuwriter, on 04/03/2008, -1/+10They should have went with the halon system.
- ecarver530, on 04/03/2008, -11/+15epic fail
- iancorey, on 04/03/2008, -1/+191Oh, that was heartbreaking. A Yellow Polo shirt tucked into khakis?
- geeshock, on 04/03/2008, -2/+6Post more Carlton please!
- yikiad, on 04/03/2008, -1/+1i saw him in that rick-rolled video, too...
- idkillforyou, on 04/03/2008, -1/+11Who the hell builds a server room in a room with ***** windows? whoever thought that was a good idea is a idiot usually you put a server room in a central location in a building somewhere where you know there are no windows that could possibly leak.....
- absentmindedjwc, on 04/03/2008, -0/+21"Who the hell builds a server room in a room with ***** windows?"
SERIOUSLY.... linux is the way to go, heh - elementop, on 04/03/2008, -0/+2What do you do in a case like my current job, where the building isn't that large, and there *are* no central rooms? Every room in the building has a window (lower-case w) in it, so yeah, our server room is in a room with windows.
- ggacid, on 04/03/2008, -0/+2Either A: put the server room on the 2nd floor of the building or B: you're going to have to lose rackspace and not use the lower 1/8th of every rack.
- xtc46, on 04/03/2008, -0/+1Or, do what we did, and seal the window. I just built a small NOC/Backup server room. There were to windows, so I sealed them shut. Now there are no windowsAnd becasue of the low volume of servers, the racks are wall mounted and on an inside wall, not an outer wall.
- ggacid, on 04/03/2008, -0/+2Either A: put the server room on the 2nd floor of the building or B: you're going to have to lose rackspace and not use the lower 1/8th of every rack.
- MixedSpleens, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1Our "Server room" (read: its only slightly too large to call a server closet) has a window, but its on the fourth floor from ground level and the entire window is taken up by air conditioners (the building is over 100 years old, so we have to improvise when it comes to HVAC)
of course maybe we should be more worried about the fact that the plumbing in the building is really old, and it is in a former bathroom (with a current bathroom directly above)
...damn good thing we do offsite backups
- absentmindedjwc, on 04/03/2008, -0/+21"Who the hell builds a server room in a room with ***** windows?"
- SNUFF, on 04/03/2008, -3/+1oh my...guess what they will be doing this weekend?
- elementop, on 04/03/2008, -0/+8Applying for new jobs?
- ninja0, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1Having a water fight?
- Daemonus, on 04/03/2008, -6/+1Probably using car batteries for UPS
- integra_140, on 04/03/2008, -0/+4Well... that is what they use for commercial UPS backups. We had two pallets of them to replace. Very fun work
- 3drage, on 04/03/2008, -1/+8Guess you could say the server room was a wash.
- Bulk70, on 04/03/2008, -0/+1But lets not...
- f4nt0m4s, on 04/03/2008, -0/+18It happens...I did some IT work at a company with an improv server room. Not every company wants to buy and set up a proper server room, so sometimes the IT department has to improvise. I think a lot of companies still don't completely value their digital data. A server room should be properly cooled and the equipment shouldn't be on the floor, and it should be locked up with no windows. I guess you should have a drainage system too. It sucks because IT costs money, so I think a lot of IT departments get into management issues asking for more money to spend to properly install stuff like servers, and in smaller companies that can become a problem. But I'd hate to be the IT guy that gets to go to the CEO of some small company and go, "your server room is flooded jackass! there goes 2 years worth of data! i told you so!"
- cryptoki, on 04/03/2008, -4/+1if their cables were mounted for overhead use, instead of below the floor tiles, they would have been ok maybe.
- absentmindedjwc, on 04/03/2008, -1/+4well.. if the cables are properly shielded (and all connections are above... umm.. water level.. ) they should be fine as it is
- bitterbug, on 04/03/2008, -1/+9Where I used to work the (improvised) server room was right beside an elevator shaft. Its original purpose was to function as a phone switchboard closet. Considering that any CRT monitors within 20 feet of the elevator shaft had severe warping from the EM field of the elevator, I always wondered what effect it might have on the data some time.
When the building electrician was in looking at the effect on the monitors he mentioned that elevators have to take into account the electical field generated and bleed it off or you can end up with the top blowing off the shaft from the built up charge. I wish I could remember all the details, he was rhyming off various principles of electrical systems, and it was quite interesting.
Anyone in EE care to elaborate? - mactheaddict, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1I wonder if that could be rigged on a smaller scale,
Weekend Project !!!!!!!
- cryptoki, on 04/03/2008, -4/+1if their cables were mounted for overhead use, instead of below the floor tiles, they would have been ok maybe.
- Lucas123, on 04/03/2008, -3/+5Quick. Call the help desk!
- InsaneMachine, on 04/03/2008, -0/+5I keep calling, but all I get is my voice mail. :(
- heydroid, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1same here! Who do we call when WE need help?
- InsaneMachine, on 04/03/2008, -0/+5I keep calling, but all I get is my voice mail. :(
- TehJoe, on 04/03/2008, -2/+0Is this what happened to Maj.com?
- ikyselak, on 04/03/2008, -2/+138A beautiful metaphor for the incompatibility between servers and windows...
- sphigel, on 04/03/2008, -1/+7Nice catch. Although Windows Server 2003 has been great for me.
- ninja0, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2Until you install desired configuration manager, and it all goes to hell.
- sphigel, on 04/03/2008, -1/+7Nice catch. Although Windows Server 2003 has been great for me.
- TheLD, on 04/03/2008, -1/+24Shouldn't have been torrenting
- vrillusions, on 04/03/2008, -5/+9Raised floor ftw!
Server room in the basement... fail!
The datacenter we use is on the 5th floor. If that gets flooded from rain I think I'll have more to worry about than our servers.- idkillforyou, on 04/03/2008, -0/+6A server room in the basement is a bad idea but a server room in a basement with windows = fail. Temps in a basement are usually cooler easier to keep your data center cooled to begin with but a room with windows to the outside bad idea
- OverlordXenu, on 04/03/2008, -0/+1Aren't major data centers all underground, practically being bunkers?
- gmiley, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1The ones that are underground are usually sealed off from any possible entry points of moisture. Rule #1 of electronics: "Do not add water."
- Maxington, on 04/03/2008, -3/+94Figures it was a "windows" problem...
- SirBrittanicus, on 04/03/2008, -6/+1ZINGAHH!
- deff, on 04/04/2008, -1/+2I see what you did there...
- Macskeeball, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2it was also an Aqua problem.
- JoeBaynham, on 04/03/2008, -9/+3Water cooled anyone? :P
- aeon2012, on 04/03/2008, -9/+3It's a water cooled data center!
- thedogfatherx, on 04/03/2008, -6/+1Well that location just doesn't make sense. They will probably think real deep and hard where they are going to put it next. **expecting a "thats what she said" comment to follow
- dudetaz2003, on 04/03/2008, -3/+1Obligatory "Thats what she said"
- gmiley, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1That is the terminology that the female politely articulated
- cryptoki, on 04/03/2008, -1/+3Hot sites, cold sites... and "Wet Sites"
- momsshizzle, on 04/03/2008, -13/+1Music is aweful, but seeing like that brings tears to my eyes....unless it's a Linsux server.
- absentmindedjwc, on 04/03/2008, -1/+4well.. considering that an EXTREMELY high percentile of servers are "Linsux"... it is a good chance it is.....
(and, FYI, the high percentile is because of the dependability and security not just cost... dont talk about what you dont know) - jhuebel, on 04/03/2008, -1/+4And I would have dugg you down for "Winblows" or "Windoze" too...
- absentmindedjwc, on 04/03/2008, -1/+4well.. considering that an EXTREMELY high percentile of servers are "Linsux"... it is a good chance it is.....
- CarStan, on 04/03/2008, -2/+131Haha, i will re-submit this same story in half a year with the title 'Servers destroyed because of major leak in Windows' and it will get to the frontpage and there's nothing you can do about it, NOTHING! HAHAHA
- sphigel, on 04/03/2008, -1/+5DAMNIT! You're right!!!
- hokie47, on 04/03/2008, -1/+8I just made a outlook reminder in 6 months to do just that.
- Pigeon, on 04/03/2008, -0/+2Mine is set for six months - 2 days. I WILL BEAT YOU
- yacks, on 04/03/2008, -0/+29just do it next week.. we won't notice
- fnordy, on 04/03/2008, -0/+1Sad, but true. LOL!
- Chicken, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2Oh yeah? GET ME THE DELOREAN!
- LarryG4, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1No 've stolen the flux capacitor!
- aaronmcdonald, on 04/05/2008, -0/+1What's the matter? You chicken?
- LarryG4, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1No 've stolen the flux capacitor!
- woohhaa, on 04/03/2008, -0/+1Reminds me of the time our ladies room flooded. Who builds a server room next door to a rest room?!?!
- drpcken, on 04/03/2008, -0/+1what about a company that designs restrooms?
- woohhaa, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1They need to get a restroom engineer in here and put in a decent fart fan. Come 9:00 you can smell ***** from 50 yards away from the mens room.
- millerm277, on 04/03/2008, -0/+1My High School...they finally at least raised the servers off the ground this year though.
- drpcken, on 04/03/2008, -0/+1what about a company that designs restrooms?
- DODO101, on 04/03/2008, -2/+7does a waterwall exist ? you know, like a firewall, but for water....
nervermind.- 1timeuser, on 04/03/2008, -0/+1thanks for trying.
- allengeer, on 04/04/2008, -0/+3I know a wonderwall exists. You can thank Oasis for that.
- daftvinyl, on 04/04/2008, -1/+0nah, they just need 'another brick in the wall', woulda stopped the leak...
- bundwallah, on 04/03/2008, -2/+1Water torrent > bit torrent for crashing servers. :)
Rule #1 of datacentre design. Do not build raised floor below ground level.- absentmindedjwc, on 04/03/2008, -0/+4I am thinking that it is a good thing they broke rule #1 then......... because of said "raised floor"... they most likely avoided anything more than minimal damage to the datacenter.... as all of the water was under the floor... and I am assuming that there was no power connections live under the floor... as only an idiot would walk on top of live wires under water like that
- starkruzr, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1No, rule # 1 is do not talk about the datacenter.
Rule # 2 is DO NOT TALK ABOUT THE DATACENTER.
Rule # 3 is make sure your windows don't open and are caulked correctly if they're in the basement.
- bLampert, on 04/03/2008, -0/+14cant wait to see the note he left for the morning IT guy
- rootneg2, on 04/03/2008, -0/+14torrent crashed servers,
suspect a leak in Windows.
-Jim- bLampert, on 04/04/2008, -1/+0LOL!
- gibler, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1hmmmm ... maybe a suicide note!!
- rootneg2, on 04/03/2008, -0/+14torrent crashed servers,
- W00K13, on 04/03/2008, -21/+2front page? really? man digg, seriously your starting to get pathetic. buried.
- geekofweek, on 04/03/2008, -1/+2I remember when digg used to be all about tech stuff, so want to talk about pathetic... how about 90% of the front page stories that show up these days
- KDyneria, on 04/03/2008, -1/+1On every story there is always someone who says this exact comment. Don't open the story if you think it is pathetic.
- gametavern, on 04/03/2008, -2/+2that's awesome... our server room got "rained on" from the overflow in the HVAC water pan... wasn't that bad... OMG
- PubStomp, on 04/03/2008, -15/+4they should get macbook air servers. just tuck it into an envelope
- oldcrows40, on 04/04/2008, -0/+3wtf are you talking about bro?
- rxbudian, on 04/03/2008, -5/+2ouch!!!
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