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- cquinnd, on 01/05/2009, -0/+35Higher Densisty also increases drive speed, because more data can be accessed in a smaller amount of space at the same rotational speed.
Seagate also makes 10,000 and 15,000 rpm drives which are cheaper than SSDs. - Izacus, on 01/06/2009, -0/+27So you'd rather have a puny 128 GB SSD than 2 TB of 3.5" HDD. While SSDs may be nice for system drives, no SSD will beat 3.5" HDD when it comes to archive storage capacity. You don't need fast access time for those, you need as much space as you can put on the platter there. And we're not gonna see 2 TB SSDs for years.
- jasonh1234, on 01/06/2009, -1/+282TB drives? Yeah I'll take 4 please.
- Topher06, on 01/05/2009, -8/+33I don't care, I want faster. Invest money in faster HDD or SSD drives please, these are the source of performance bottlenecks in today's computer. HDD performance is stagnat and have not kept up with the leaps in speed and performance of CPU, RAM and IO in a modern computer. So many companies come out with a density breakthrough and pat themselves on the backs but they have put no money into improving transfer and access speeds.
- seavers, on 01/06/2009, -0/+23TG should have done their research. Samsung already has a 500GB per platter drive.
http://www.matbe.com/actualites/55691/samsung-spin ... - smilgy, on 01/06/2009, -2/+22Porn
- cquinnd, on 01/06/2009, -0/+16go to Storagereview.com and check out their performance database and online guides.
Access time is governed by how fast the read/write heads can move across the platter, so don't change that much on a faster spinning drive.
Seek time improves greatly because that is governed by how fast the section of drive needed comes around under the heads.
Transfer rate is also increased, because more sections can be read in the same amount of time. - Lucas123, on 01/05/2009, -4/+20The question is, how much long will 3.5 inch drive technology be around? I'm also not so sure Seagate is making the right move by waiting on the solid state disk market to mature before putting out its own product.
- browntiger, on 01/06/2009, -0/+14I like SSD's, but in reality there is a need for both technologies. For servers and network storage's 2T drives will be awesome.
We have few years old Hitachi box with sh* load of 100G drives. One of those new drives in theory will let me replace 20. - sphigel, on 01/06/2009, -0/+14If I never had to delete any movies or tv shows I've downloaded on my computer I would easily have over 8TB right now.
- SteveMax, on 01/06/2009, -1/+13Yeah, let's throw away a perfectly functional computer just because the HDD broke down. It totally makes sense.
I'm off to buy a new car now. My old one ran out of gas. - Albumen, on 01/06/2009, -2/+12Not in the business of working on other people's computers are you?
- inactive, on 01/06/2009, -1/+11You'll never need more than 640 kilobytes!
- Renton, on 01/06/2009, -1/+10"So you'd rather have a puny 128 GB SSD than 2 TB of 3.5" HDD."
Why can't they just make both? Coming out with a SSD line isn't going to kill their HDD sales. - diggkid, on 01/06/2009, -5/+12yay, much more space for porn!
- DigitalisAkujin, on 01/06/2009, -2/+9Not even close yet.
If you look at DDR speeds which are ussually labeled as something PC5300. This means 5.3 Gigabits per second which translates to approx 662 Megabytes per second. Plus manufacturers these days are adding multiple connections for memory so if you have a top of the line motherboard today it probably has 6 slots in 3 pairs and each pair has it's own connection directly to the CPU so you can effectively fill the memory from 0 to full @ 15.9 Gigabits per second.
The fastest SSD today is already faster then the bus it has unfortunately. SATA II can only do 300 megabits per second (37.5 Megabytes).
The thing about memory that will never change is that it requires electricity to keep it's data and if the electricity is gone the data is gone. With SSDs this is not the case since it has to actually make some kind of fundamental physical change to some material at a very small scale. - ricperry1, on 01/06/2009, -1/+7If they want the speed of RAM with the storage of HDD, they need to go holographic. There may be something else out there, but holographic storage has already been vetted as a speedy, high data density, low power data storage medium. I'm actually very surprised no storage company has monetized the tech yet.
- Chrysalii, on 01/06/2009, -2/+8I may be laughing at this in a few years, but for now.
What do you need 8TB for? - inactive, on 01/07/2009, -0/+4Why do people digg a person down for asking a very legitimate question???
- Krissam, on 01/06/2009, -0/+48 TB, that's only enough for a 32 frame holographic porn .hgif
- dougmc, on 01/06/2009, -0/+4Agreed, HD speeds aren't improving as quickly as CPU speeds or HD capacity ...
But they are improving -- just not as fast. The 1 TB SATA drives I just got at Frys will sustain 70 MB/s -- where the 200 GB drives they replaced only did about 40 MB/s. - jmoh, on 01/06/2009, -0/+3It depends on your budget. Netbooks are supposed to be affordable.
- raptordrew, on 01/06/2009, -2/+5Great, now if they would continue making 3.5" IDE hard dives - they've ***** dropped everything but 80gb and 160gb for 3.5" IDE, which makes it really ***** hard to repair people's computers. Why not 80gb (for below the 128gb gap) and 250gb, or even 500gb?
/rant - SteveMax, on 01/06/2009, -0/+3SATA/300 can do ~3 Gbit/s, or ~300 MBytes/s.
- cquinnd, on 01/06/2009, -0/+3>> System performance is measured in GIGAbytes per second
Only where the location of data transfer is extremely close to the CPU.
>> SSD drives should have performance closer to RAM
No, SSD drives are not built with the same tolerances or data path as system RAM. You are making an assumption that everything designed on solid state circuitry must run at the same speed.
>> but ACTUAL hard drive performance has been stagnant compared to other components in a computer
I can make that same arguement by isolating any specific component in a computer system in comparison with specific advances in the development of another component; that includes development in CPU and RAM designs in recent years. Actual hard drive performance and usefullness has increased significantly compared to hard drive designs of the past decade.
Modern OSes can take advantage of pre-caching and smart data access algorithms to offset the real performance impact on the computer. Ultimately the biggest bottleneck on a computer system is the User, but most system are not designed to anticipate the users needs to give the impression that the rest of the system is more responsive.
For most applications these days, network latency appears to be a bigger factor than drive access. Especially as we promote the era of "cloud" computing. - Antimatter85, on 01/06/2009, -0/+2If it's porn, then the former.
If it's not porn, then the latter.
Unless it's anime... - cquinnd, on 01/06/2009, -0/+2I saw a company that was promoting a holograpic storage device a few years ago at CES.
The holographic media was a small, light blue cube about an inch and a half on one side, and could easily fit into a pocket or carrying case.
The drive needed to read and write the holographic media was the size of a large desktop case on its own.
You might start to see holographic solutions built to add on to storage farms or rack mounted servers in the near future, but unless they scale it down greatly it will not be showing up on desktop or mobile devices yet. - dremspider, on 01/06/2009, -0/+2Bigger problem with SSDs is that writes are really slow. Intel is said to have fixed this somewhat. Also, each cell can only accept so many writes in its lifetime. They have gotten it to the point that you will probably never reach that number of writes on most of the disk in a very long time, but it would quickly become an issue if you planned on using it for all memory. That is why with SSDs you are recommended to turn of swap in your OS and load it up with memory (not that big of an issue with the price of memory right now).
- stonedgeek, on 01/06/2009, -2/+4Maybe we'll see a combo drive for the desktop market in the next couple of years. It would be great to have 128GB SSD (for the os, personal documents and program files) combined in one unit with a 2TB HDD for big file storage.
- LibrarianEtarip, on 01/06/2009, -0/+2No. SSD drives currently top out somewhere below 300MB/s. DDR3 memory operates at 17GB/s to 38GB/s.
- evilgourmet, on 01/07/2009, -0/+2Wait till they bring out the yottabyte drives, thats a lotta um, files.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yottabyte - NecroSexy, on 01/07/2009, -0/+1500 GB on a single platter? mmm...
- xdevit, on 01/08/2009, -0/+1"Seagate to come up with a 2 TB hard drive, which may be the case as soon as the company’s rivals are catching up with similar technology."
What kinda ***** is that.. - sfacets, on 01/07/2009, -0/+1Unless they can improve lifespan, I'm not going to buy another HDD. USB-connected devices typically last 2 years max when used for media storage viewing, if you are lucky.
- factsahoy, on 01/06/2009, -2/+3"Monetized"? Give us a break.
Let's just verbize everything. - rabbitmo, on 01/07/2009, -0/+1Don't buy Seagate drives!
Seagate used to be a good brand but they aren't anymore. Some of their drives have a 40% failure rate and 25% is standard for them now. Seagate doesn't care about its customers and would only reply that such failure rates are standard.
Check out their boards. They are heavily moderated though:
http://forums.seagate.com/stx/board?board.id=ata_d ...
Or have a look at newegg feedback. You can also search for 7200.11 Firmware in Google to find out more.
7200.11 Seagate drives have a firmware problem which randomly disables them from one moment to another. It often happens without warning a couple of weeks after they were bought and they won't be recognized by the bios anymore. Seagate is offering to recover the data at an outrageous price. Since it is just a firmware problem it just takes a few minutes to repair the drive, but it requires tools which just Seagate and data recovery companies have. - Radicals, on 01/06/2009, -0/+1When I first saw this I thought it said 'Seagal's new Hard Drive'
And I thought of this...
http://i42.tinypic.com/4kbuyr.jpg - SteveMax, on 01/06/2009, -0/+1Of course not! It says "USB Full Speed" on the label!!1
- AutoTom, on 01/08/2009, -0/+1It's called Aerial density - tekzilla
- jonahan52, on 01/06/2009, -0/+1You're doing it wrong you do it AWAY from your PC. Don't want to short it out and lose it all!
- SteveMax, on 01/06/2009, -0/+1No-name 5400RPM USB drive is faster than a 7200RPM SATA/300 drive with a stupidly high data density? Of course!
- AmnioticEntity, on 01/19/2009, -0/+1wasn't there an article about this in macaddict magazine about 10 yeas ago? saying it would replace dvd's...what happened?
- wildfire, on 01/06/2009, -0/+1Like this?
http://www.inphase-technologies.com/products/defau ...
Although it's not blazing fast like RAM... - jonahan52, on 01/06/2009, -0/+1http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Sub ...
- adkenc, on 01/06/2009, -1/+2did they punch a hole in them to make them high density?
edit: i just realized how dated this comment is...
http://stason.org/TULARC/os-macintosh/hardware/26- ... - ajbl, on 01/06/2009, -0/+1Because USB is totally not going to be the bottleneck
- Bloake, on 01/06/2009, -0/+1People will still keep buying HDs as long as they're the cheaper alternative.
- saintdesy, on 01/07/2009, -0/+1The boys in Scotts Valley do it again. Why is it that Seagate seems to be the ones pushing the envelope?
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