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- Foo667, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14Um. Yes
- shawnz, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9where the hell did that mac flaming come from o.o
- Nameless1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I concur.
- Janus67, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5yes you can. although if you were to buy an SLI/xFire board I don't see why not to have the two cards. I run my single 7800gtx and it plays just fine. You will not see any degration in performance using a single card on an SLI board, just that you aren't running in SLi/Xfire.
- SeyWat, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Quad SLI got smoked, guess I'll start looking at the X1950 or 7900s now.
- khyberkitsune, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5You must not know much about SLI.
Hell, back in 1995 when SLI first came out, you were running a graphics card (The Voodoo 2) that had THREE PROCESSORS ALREADY ONBOARD. NVIDIA's just now using SLI with single-processor cards. They obviously don't have their game set right, we should've already been into realtime photorealistic gaming LONG ago. - EvilTesdall, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10....how the hell did SLI or Crossfire turn into MAC time.....
first off the article just told me what crossfire and sli was....yippie!...i could give a flying rip..
secondly it doesn't say which one is "better" or benchmarched higher.
this is lame and so are people who think using macs are cool....macs are for flamers and metrosexuals that don't know any better. - spyrochaete, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4What resolution can your monitor handle? You can run Oblivion at 100% detail and a seamless framerate on a far wussier card than the 7950. My 7900GT smokes the hell out of that game at 1280x1024 with HDR enabled.
Not that I can stomach Oblivion anymore. That game is buggy and unpolished as hell. Regardless, you'll really enjoy the first 20 hours or so. :) - Ramble, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Agreed.
- cwcheang, on 10/12/2007, -7/+10@vbsurfer
please... if you dont know what you're talking about just keep your mouth shut. it really really makes me sick when people act as if they're very good at something when in fact they know nothing. - kirghizstan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6of course, that would be the an awful business decision to spend a load of money developing a game that can only be played by a small portion of the gaming community.
- jguy584, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3^ I think its more The world isnt ready for quad SLI
- spyrochaete, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I just bought an SLI motherboard with one video card for this very reason. My 7900GT is raising hell right now, but by the time I need more juice I can just pop in another one.
- thomasjordan, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6If the buzz about Parallels is true, and they are going to be able to get 3d acceleration working the mac pro looks increasingly attractive.
- billybob476, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2From what I hear it's also a stone bitch to run dual montiors on XFire/SLi. Seems you have to enable before you game and disable it to activate the second output.
- spyrochaete, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Or two 7600GTs!! That's just about the perfect mid-budget SLI solution right now.
- Settra, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Mac Pro..where's FPS gaming go?
- skatingrox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Just get a 7600GT. I have one and it runs Oblivion just fine at 40+ fps in the great forest on medium-high settings.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Rather than making you sift through pages and pages that are no more than a paragraph or chart long, why not go here http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.aspx articleid=861&cid=2 for an in-depth look at the latest performance metrics in single and multi-GPU Graphics from ATI and NVIDIA? I mean come on ET, dieing for page views or what?
- handheldchimp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Quad sli just isnt ready for this world...*sniffles*
- Koosebane, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Note that we think the 7950 GX2, used as a single card, has a lot to offer. It's speedier than other single card solutions."
I plan on running a single 7950 GX2 until Vista is released.
Then again, I don't have a monster display set up yet, so a single card should be enough for now anyway.
The nephews bought me ~Oblivion~ for my birthday and I can't run it. *sob* - EviLiu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They are already getting accused of being biased. They don't come out and tell you which is better, and they shouldn't. Read the article. Look for the benchmarks that represent you best. Look at the resulting data and reach your own conclusion.
- josegutz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3bitch please...
- spyrochaete, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1To add to this, it is largely agreed upon that ATI has superior image quality to NVidia. ATI has a better anisotropic filtering system that makes textures appear much clearer at medium distances. Textures drawn a certain distance on a GeForce card tend to have a "shimmering" effect that bugs the crap out of some people (but I don't think it's a big deal).
On the other hand, BFG Tech is an outstanding NVidia-only PCB manufacturer that offers a lifetime warranty on all their video cards. I don't think ATI has a comparable first or third party solution with a service policy like that. - Nameless1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1How about buying two very efficent cards ? :)
- carve, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2At first I thought it said "SLK vs. Crossfire". The Mercedes SLK and Chrysler Crossfire are two roadsters based on the same platform, except the Chrysler is a lot less expensive.
- shawnz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2In our overall showdown between ATI and Nvidia for extreme hi-res gaming, we're going to have to give the edge to ATI. At $900, the new X1950 Crossfire setup generally outperforms the others, especially with AA and AF applied (and isn't that why you would buy such an expensive graphics setup, to enable features like AA/AF?). The X1900 Crossfire solution is actually fairly impressive. Sure it's slower than the X1950 at the very highest settings, but often the difference isn't huge, and at $700 it's substantially less expensive than any of the other dual-graphics setups tested here. If you do play a lot of OpenGL titles, then the 7900 GTX in SLI mode is a more robust solution for high-end gamers with high resolution displays. But most games today use DirectX, and ATI has the edge today.
- loudnobnoxious, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Their benchmarks sure conflict with a website that I trust a hell of a lot more than ExtremeTech........
http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/369/ - spyrochaete, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2size != resolution
- sunyata322, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Must be nice to have an extra 1500-2500 to make your games run at such large resolutions. Honestly sometimes I think my 19" is too big when playing certain games.
- BugMeNot2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1From the article:
"Quad SLI may also deliver lower performance than GeForce 7900 SLI configurations for some Direct 3D applications at high resolutions when using AFR modes at 4x AA or lower filtering quality, or with No AA and HDR turned on. DirectX 9 doesn't support queuing of enough back-buffers to effectively support high-performance 4-way AFR mode, combined with 7950GX2 GPUs being clocked a bit lower than standard GeForce 7900 GTX GPUs."
"Nvidia also suggests that DirectX 10 will fix the back buffer problems. That's true only if DirectX 9L, which is the version of DirectX 9 included with Vista, specifically changes the number of back-buffers that can be queued up. However, that means you'd need to wait for Windows Vista before the full benefits of the current implementation of QuadSLI kick in. When full, DirectX 10 hardware comes out, QuadSLI could become more viable." - maninblac1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think it's kinda silly to be investing in the graphics card market at this point. The 7950 and the 1950 would be the way to go if you absolutely have to invest now. But with DirectX 10 around the corner, even though it will be pretty slow to start out since Vista will not likely see a big initial consumer base.
You still have to think of it this way, 180 frames of DX9 graphics, or 50 frames of DX10. Honostly, i'm speculating since we have no idea how the new cards will perform, but i'd be happy to take DX 10 at a much slower frame rate for the improvement of the graphical environment. - handheldchimp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1exactly, there is nothing about macs in this article.
- Slovenian6474, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I had 2 of those Voodoo 2s! 12MB each baby! Although it looked rather different. You linked the 2 cards together with what looked like an IDE ribbon.
- MasterTreb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I just bought a XFX 7950 Xtreme and I'm kind of wishing I waited and bought that X1950 it looks like a monster card I am running a 19" screen so I won't be running super high rez. I am slightly disappointed by the Quad SLI markups on here because I bought an SLI board to have that option open. I would go with an X1950 if I were you. I don't know what DX10 well do to the Quad SLI but I would go ahead and play it safe if with a X1950. Its cheaper and better.
- laserdisc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's funny I've always read that the ATi chipset was inferior to NVidia's? I personally use Nvidia because I have no luck with ATi drivers. At the time Nvidia had the best performing chipset for AMD 939 chips ala Nforce4. I'm thinking what I'll be upgrading to once Vista hits SP1 and with AMD absorbing ATi into it's ranks if ATi could deliver a superior chipset to NVidia with AMD's help.
- Slovenian6474, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I've always gone with Nvidia mostly because they seem to be the best at the time. Except the FX series, i stupid bought one of those. So far i'm pretty impressed with the x1950. Might have to change over to the competitor in the next build.
- thomasjordan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3"this is lame and so are people who think using macs are cool....macs are for flamers and metrosexuals that don't know any better."
Ah widespread generalizations on user-bases go great with my coffee in the morning. Dare I ask, what an "enlightened" person such as EvilTesdall runs as their OS of choice?
"I gotz winxp pirate edition!!!11 lol! itz kewl cuz i got a kewl anime wallpaper. lol." - Boondoggle, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4and then there is bootcamp
- EvilTesdall, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2read the modded down comments above mine. thats where it came from.
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"Either way I'm thinking of going Mac Pro next year, hopefully they will have something better then (not that that they don't have anything good now)" - khyberkitsune, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0@ shawnz....
"where the hell did that mac flaming come from o.o"
It just got done having a party with Sony, and it got battery-***** up the ass. - handheldchimp, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Thats kinda like a downgrade unless you put windows on it...cuz windows runs faster on macs. I say its like a downgrade because there are like no games on mac, but macs are still awesome.
- cmiller1, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Yeah, that really justifies your reaction "I'm thinking of buying a porsche, I've heard they..." "HARHARHARHAR PEOPLE THAT WONT PORSCHES ARE DA GAY YUCK YUCK!"
You sure are smart and well spoken evil tesdall, a credit to the users of your operating system - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1SLI is cool and all, but always made me feel like we should be working on better, faster, more efficient cards than having to buy two.
Either way I'm thinking of going Mac Pro next year, hopefully they will have something better then (not that that they don't have anything good now) - carguy84, on 10/12/2007, -13/+6This article brought to you by: ATI.
I've read some biased articles before, but wow, extremetech had already picked the winner before they even began the testing. Just let the numbers(the poorly laid out graphs for that matter) speak for themselves. There's no reason to put on the hard sell afterwards, numbers will always sell themselves. Unless ET's advertising contract with ATI required it.
In the words of John Heines, that site has jumped the shark.
Chip- - Ramble, on 10/12/2007, -13/+4"SLI is cool and all, but always made me feel like we should be working on better, faster, more efficient cards than having to buy two.
Either way I'm thinking of going Mac Pro next year"
You'd think that instead of having two processors, they'd make 1 more efficient one, right?
Moron. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -18/+8I just wonder can you install just one vid card on mobos with crossfire or sli and be fine as far as gaming goes?
- kirghizstan, on 10/12/2007, -17/+0
- vbsurfer, on 10/20/2007, -50/+2...SLI and Crossfire is a method for linking two (or more) video cards together to produce a single output.
To answer your question. No.
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