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- jman583, on 07/09/2009, -3/+15This is just like the farming companies burning crops to raise prices during the great depression.
- Tenoq, on 07/09/2009, -0/+11I guess we'll need to wait just that much longer before SSD supplants traditional magnetic spinning storage.
Shame really. I was hoping to get a cheap SSD to go with Windows 7. :) - chroko, on 07/09/2009, -1/+8Unless I'm missing something, the author of the article can't do basic math. The article says that the price raised $1.80 - and is now $4.10. It says the low price was $2.60.
The article calls this a 127% increase. But a 127% increase would be: $2.60 * 227% = $5.90.
Going from $2.60 to $4.10 is an increase of 57%, but I guess that looks a little less dramatic for their article. - arunforce, on 07/09/2009, -0/+5Except they can't remain profitable with such low demand so it makes perfect sense.
- inactive, on 07/09/2009, -4/+9I wonder which ***** retarded executives came up with this thought provoking idea. I bet it went something like this:
Sales dept. : "Sales are down and people can't afford to buy our products anymore."
CEO: "Let's lower the product output to increase demand, so we can hike up the price and make more money selling less."
Sales dept. : "But wont we lose a lot of customers?"
CEO: "We get paid salary no matter what anyways, and hey if our company fails we get insurance money!"
Sales Dept: "I like the way you think. ***** all of the other employees and ***** the customers. Times are tough and our families are depending on our income"
CEO: "Yes, and I'll still get my yearly exponentially higher bonus!" - positron, on 07/09/2009, -2/+7Demand is low because the $ to GB ratio is too high. So what do they do? Raise prices. Brilliant!
- AGONYTUESDAY, on 07/09/2009, -0/+5did we really need a report to see that people won't buy SSDs because they're too expensive?
- MaxPowers, on 07/09/2009, -0/+4or pulling on a girls pony tails and riding her like a harley
- AndrewWiggin, on 07/09/2009, -0/+4Hmm no it's not.
This is not an extreme waste of food when people need it. It's cutting production because there wasn't enough demand. - jpallan, on 07/09/2009, -0/+3I indulged in a SSD in my AluMacBook. Everyone comments on the performance change. And besides, most of the stuff I actually need to store are things like films, movies, archived chat logs from eight years ago, & c. ... the sort of stuff that an external HD that you plug into *occasionally* is perfect for.
- yaosio, on 07/09/2009, -0/+2This evil SSD korporations, don't they know that supply and demand is a kapitalist conspiracy?
- Myztry, on 07/09/2009, -0/+2The Victorian (AU) Education Department contracted the supply of 10,000 Acer One netbooks which came with Vista Enterprise. One of my kids received one. It was a stupid idea and the laptops are painful slow to boot. I can't overstate how hair pullingly stupid the idea was.
Besides the fact the contractors no doubt got the licenses free (or next too or even at a gain), I couldn't imagine why they would do such a stupid thing. My best bet is to drive up the hardware requirements for netbooks. Sabotage the the low cost, low profit existence of them.
Companies tend to run on % margins, and when things get cheap then profit drops. When hardware is cheap, software starts to look more expensive even at the same price.
I have no doubt that there is a desperate bid to get prices to rise and ASUS with their original eeePC is looked upon by insiders of the industry of somewhat of a traitor by revealing how cheap things can get. Undoing that realistic pricing will be an effort requiring much collusion including players such as SSD manufacturers. - enantiodromia, on 07/09/2009, -0/+1really? because i am on a conf call with EMC right now discussing how they are going to get rid of SATA and SCSI drives in favor of SSD drives in the next few years.
want me to have them conf you in, so you can tell them their business? - crgauth, on 07/09/2009, -1/+2If you read the article closely, it states that prices was $2.60 last year at this time. 127% increase is from the end of the year. Graph shows prices in Q4 of 08 to be around $2. So prices today being over $4 could very well be 127%.
- 1hrSleep, on 07/09/2009, -3/+4@Positron
The prices were too low for the manufacturers with not enough volume in sales. So, they cut production to match. This brought up the price and brought them back up to a profitable level (which means that the price change didn't affect overall demand of NAND chips).
The NAND manufacterers are the ones who cut production and are the ones who are benefiting. The SSD makers are the ones who are suffering. The SSD guys aren't the ones increasing the prices.
NAND Manu (Price goes up, profit is down). -> SSD -> People (P is up)
NAND Manu.(Price is up, profit is up) -> Other Markets (Phones and other devices) -> People (P is the same) - enantiodromia, on 07/09/2009, -0/+1an SSD is most peoples' laptops is a waste anyway, since most people probably aren't even pushing the boundaries of their 5400RPM HDDs in the first place, not to mention 7200RPM.
now a RAID array of SSDs on your database server, now that's something special. - ncgmac, on 07/09/2009, -0/+0If you own say 90% of the market and you know you can weather the fleeing customers until they return, yes. However, if you are an emerging market with a small percentage of the storage market, this strategy will last you about as long as your current locked in customer base hangs around. Forget new customers, they are sticking with the older, and much cheaper technology that delivers what they need and is propped up by things like Gigabytes of RAM caches.
- ncgmac, on 07/09/2009, -0/+0Not in a million years. Magnetic hard drives are still super reliable, and the technology is very mature in dealing with the legacy times on hard drives. Our biggest bottle neck on our data warehouse isn't the RAID Array, its the fiber going from the disks to the cell based server. Putting SSDs out there would not improve our performance one bit. Not to mention Terabytes of SSD would be crazy.
I do think SSDs are a great idea for Laptops, or any work device once the OS's prove they can take full advantage of them. Prices need to drop though. When I can drop in half a terabyte of magnetic disk into my laptop for 125 bucks and offset the lag with turbo memory, on Vista, why change to SSD for the same money and much less storage space. Yea I save my movies on an external drive, but I also have them on this machine, giving me cheap redundancy. Prices going up does not motivate me to change, it motivates me to wait or look for alternatives. - 1hrSleep, on 07/09/2009, -3/+3The conversation was more like this:
NAND Manufacturer: Okay, we're not selling enough of these to justify the low prices. Cut demand to lower supply and raise prices.
...A bit later...
NAND Manu.: Cool, we're making money again.
Apple: 'kay.
Nokia: Righto.
Sony: Yep.
SSD Makers: ...*****. - bromac, on 07/09/2009, -4/+3If they make more money selling less, the company won't fail.
In fact, that makes perfect sense to make a business profitable. - pendetim, on 07/09/2009, -4/+0Ok the price of a 64 GB SSD is about $200. The "big price increase" has added $3.00 to this cost. Making the memory cost a total of about $10.00 . Where is the other $190 cost?
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