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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+96North Korean Missiles.
- falloutsyndrome, on 10/12/2007, -4/+96think they'll release a firmware update? ^___^
- shadow22, on 10/12/2007, -3/+87Thank God the TV is Ok.
- jrl5k, on 10/12/2007, -1/+78I think we need to help this guy hear something back from that Avdeco company!
- daldredge, on 10/12/2007, -5/+601000.00 for a stand? Isn't that just a little much?
- CBTF, on 10/12/2007, -5/+55What can I buy that won't explode these days? =(
- commiecat, on 10/12/2007, -5/+53Actually, exploded is appropriate.
"The top shelf of the Avdeco stand EXPLODED sending shards of glass to every corner of my bedroom. Fortunately for me, I wasn't sleeping at the time, or I would have been hit by flying glass."
The word works in not only explaining how it projected glass across the room, but also in explaining a noise so loud that he compared it to an airplane crashing into his house.
Diggers are all breathing sighs of relief to know that the TV is okay, though. :) - millardkillmore, on 10/12/2007, -3/+46Tell me about it. Just stack up some cinder blocks; you look hip and retro and you save around 990 dollars.
- Computer_Kid, on 10/12/2007, -4/+41Glass may not be the best material to put a expensive TV on.
- illegalamigo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+38There's one born every minute.
- unitedstatians, on 10/12/2007, -8/+40This is the Whois data for the domain.
AVDECO, INC.
http://www.avdecoinc.com/
3550 Wilshire Blvd. #736
Los Angeles, CA 90010
Domain name: AVDECOINC.COM
Administrative Contact:
Choo, Chong paul@cosmomediagroup.com
3550 Wilshire Blvd. #736
Los Angeles, CA 90010
US
213-386-2519 Fax: 213-386-3597 - samsite, on 10/12/2007, -3/+29thats crap, i hope you get some were with this, i hope my digg helps you...
- dartmanx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+28Oh, odds are good of him hearing from Adveco's legal department, at least.
- Chompy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26Never buy anything from AVEDCO: got it. I'll make sure to tell everyone I know about this as well. Hopefully we can cost them some serious business.
- unitedstatians, on 10/12/2007, -3/+26Don't forget you local News channel, they're be willing help you as long it's investigative and gather some ratings.
- ahhell, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23Real wood doesn't "bubble".
I think you meant to say "real" wood. - n8r0n, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20Your problem is not the "bubbling" wood, it is the fact that you are using Rent-A-Center to get a high end TV.
- fintler, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20More digging into some sec filings produces the following...
AVDECO, INC.
Number: C2447872
Jurisdiction: California
Address:
1590 MILLIKEN AVENUE UNIT "C"
ONTARIO, CA 91761
Agent for Service of Process:
CHONG HYUN CHOO
628 BRONCO WAY
WALNUT, CA 91789
Good luck - Kittyflipping, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19"An explosion is a sudden increase in volume and release of energy in a violent manner, usually with the generation of high temperatures and the release of gases."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosion
"To cause to break or burst suddenly into pieces, as with a violent blow."
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/shatter
You decide. - tokyomonster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17That's the way tempered glass will break, in to tiny, tiny pieces.
- skell, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20Because of the lack of reply from Avdeco, I think it's time the Digg Army to help out and call the numbers listed above and ask them if it's true if their TV stands are known to explode.
If they have no idea what you're talking about, refer them to Digg and all the negative press they are starting to get. I'm sure they will then take quick action. - Arkonnan, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19That was my first thought when I saw the thing too. It just looks like a bunch of aluminum posts and sheets of tempered glass.
It's a weekend project at best. Certainly nothing worth a grand. - NSMike, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17Better quality is definitely debatable in this case.
- merreborn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15This is totally normal for abused safety glass. I just had this happen to part of a glass desk from ikea.
I'd moved it about 5 times in the last 3 years, each time not taking any particular precautions when it came to wrapping it, etc. Tried to take it with me when I moved just a month ago, and one of the glass pieces exploded with the gentlest touch.
Poorly handled safety glass develops invisible stress fractures. He probably dropped stuff on there a few times, or the guys who shipped/installed it were clumsy.
This isn't news. This is what safety glass does. - unitedstatians, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17the dude needs to contact these agency and organizations then collect their written statement preferably after calling a lawyer.
The Better Business Bureau http://bbb.org/
U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission http://www.cpsc.gov/
Ratings and recommendations http://www.consumerreports.org/
they will help you publicize and spread your complaints http://www.complaints.com/
Epinions.com - write Reviews http://www1.epinions.com/ - Fett101, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15@Dolomite
Obviously the previous poster has some sort of experience in the matter of tempered glass and was stating that the exploding points towards poorly made glass. RTFP next time. - ldhertert, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16well it's a good thing you said it anyway.
- Nighthawke, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15From what I can tell from the pictures, the glass did fail, but it failed poorly. Improperly tempered glass under that kind of stress would explode, sending fragments flying for a good direction. If the glass was tempered properly, it would have cracked and fell to pieces, allowing the TV to fall on top of the other gear.
If the company refuses to respond to your inquiries, then purchase a replacement sheet from the local glass company, then send them the bill. If they still fail to respond, take them to small claims court for damages and the replacement piece. - BobsYourUncle, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17Although I agree that the stand COULD be built at home, there are a number of people that have neither the technical know-how nor the tools to build an aluminum/glass TV stand. I would consider myself one of those people. And for people like me, paying $1000 for a stand that (we thought) would do the job we bought it for might seem reasonable.
I 'could' code a calculator... or I could just buy one for $20. But it's also a matter of skills/tools/time. I don't want to spend the time to make a calculator. I think $20 is an acceptable cost in exchange for NOT making one. Same with the TV stand.
The problem is not the cost of the TV stand, but more that the TV stand failed to do what it claimed (mainly, hold the damn TV without exploding). - NSMike, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14No, I would say the most likely reasons were:
It was warm, either from your touch, or from its contents, and you put it in a sink of cold water or ran cold water over it. Combine that with thin or cheap glass and you get a moderate implosion. Reverse those temperatures and you'll get an explosion. - sgr215, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14That sucks! It's amazing your plasma survived. It could have been MUCH worse. I won't be buying Avdeco.
- merreborn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12http://www.google.com/search?q=tempered+glass+explosion
This crap happens *all* the time. You drop something on the glass, it looks fine, and then it gets hot one day, weeks or months later, and boom. - Fett101, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16"I 'could' code a calculator... or I could just buy one for $20."
or you could buy a diamond studded one with a solid gold case for $1000! - merreborn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13"Shattering may not happen when the damage originally occurs and can be triggered by a minor stress like heat or small impact that would not normally affect the toughened glass. If any toughened glass shows any damage it must be replaced."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safety_glass#Toughened_glass_.28Tempered_glass.29 - Antialias, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14But he could have gotten something nice for $1000. That one looks pretty much like the cheap ones you can buy for $100. Better quality perhaps, but it doesn't look like it has $1000 worth of "style".
- soljin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+111000$ for a TV stand what a DOLT! My 150$ one from IKEA is still rock solid and I've jumped on that thing. Don't be stupid when buying furniture!
- hijinks, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11no matter what weight that glass is rated at, I'd still never trust putting an expensive TV on a glass stand.. Then again I'd never pay $1k for a TV stand
- EasY_TargeT, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Hmm, looking at computer worth about $5000, maybe I should take it off this glass.
- master_of_fm, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13no
- kraemer007, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Have IQ's dropped sharpy while I was away? I have that same TV and the whole 118 lbs is concetrated on four little contact patches for a total of maybe 4 square inches. Really would you put so much concetrated weight on a PIECE OF GLASS? Thats just not a good idea.
- saroth, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Tempered glass, if made improperly, can explode at any time without warning. It does not even have to be put under additional stress. That is because tempered glass is under stress when it comes from the factory. The outer layer of glass holds the inner layer together. Should the outer layer be damaged, the inner layer will explode due to the stress it contains, though this is usually not an issue because of how tough the outer layer is. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Rupert%27s_Drop .
- headzoo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10These kinds of companies still haven't learned that nothing is an isolated incident any more. They think they can ignore a customer, or treat them poorly, and maybe only the customer and their closest friends will know about it. No harm to them.
Thanks to the Internet, the whole world knows about it very quickly. We live in the age of communication, and guess what... people are communicating. Companies better wise up real quick, or they're going to be hurting. - daurkin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I read the forum that it was posted on and the one comment about tempered glass can become defective when exposed to heat. So the repeat heating/cooling from all of the components may have triggered the explosion. The company should still be responsible for replacing it and any damage done to the components.
- OandA, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12What the heck is a DLP plasma?
- jakatak, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I would be ringing this guys doorbell within the hour. I say we all do lunch tomorrow on this guys porch.
- rokinroj, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Not sure if I'd ever spend $1000 on a TV stand, but I will avoid Avdeco for sure.
- oavil, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10sweet another priceritephoto company about to feel the brunt of digg
- turbodigg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Whats pathetic is that the company doesnt even respond to his emails.
- dtfinch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Glass isn't indestructable you know. At least it was safety glass. Usually very strong, but if you ever break it, it shatters into thousands of almost equally sized not-so-sharp pieces.
- titlesaysitall, on 10/12/2007, -7/+14Yeah because it's so sensible to break a TV stand that cost a 1000 bucks /sarcasm
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