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- snurfle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+67What kind of a man shoots a tree?!?!?
- cruelpupet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+56"without being spotted by enemy snipers."
Unless the enemy has night vision goggles, in which case you will light up like a christmas tree. - jvolkman, on 10/12/2007, -4/+44@ snurfle
A soldier in the War on Christmas. - thcobbs, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Simple, the military drives most of the development of new technology in this country
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Yeah, why don't you all just boycott any technology given to us by the military.
Go on. Give up your computer. Give up the internet.
The 2 main catalysts for technology: Military and Porn.
Honorable Mention: Health Care, especially when it involves the previous two. - progidy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8this is exactly what happened when night vision was created. US soldiers would walk around with a big infrafred flashlight on their heads and goggles. then the enemy found out about the goggles and just sat and watched our poor men come around the corner.
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/nightvision2.htm - cbbspike, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@austindkelly
Because unlike the private sector the military can spend billions of our dollars into projects that might not work at all, and watch once in a while a project be useful. - toasty168, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13yeah, take it to the trees before they bring it here.
- AntBing, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7How about we give it to the automobile industry as well. Displays in the windshields and sensors in head/tail lights would benefit the human race rather than destroy it.
- chaosium, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"I concur, why is it that every advancement is automatically put to use in war?"
Because if an advancement is useful for war, it will be used for that purpose?
Do you complain when a useful computing technology is incorporated into business operations? - crilen007, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Ze Goggles! Zey Do Something!
- jessicah628, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It's a brand new story, and it's not just about OLEDs, it's about a specific application and its potential. That's like saying that because someone posted about the iPhone, no one should post about it again.
- co72, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Read the article. It's talking about a phosphorescent dye molecule that emits near-infrared (invisble) light that can be embedded in flexible mediums. It has nothing to do with the types of devices you mention.
Dugg you down. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4@snurfle: He hates these cans. Stay away from the cans.
- megido, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Canon is actually planning on replacing the LCD screens in their digital cameras with OLEDS sometime in the next year. From what Iv read they will be good enough that the cameras wont need optical view finders anymore. During the CES show sony actually showed an oled tv and it looked fantastic.
- GottIstTot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2OLEDs are no joke, I've seen this groups research in Angewandte before. Sony and maybe Samsung
are planning on releasing OLED based televisions soon. - Caerbannog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Of what possible use would it be in a car? The article is about OLED infrared emitters. Such a heads-up display can't be viewed with the naked eye, and serves no purpose other than remaining hidden in the visible spectrum.
If you're going hijack the discussion with your naive political tirades, at least have some understanding of the subject first. - roosterjm2k2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I was reading in a science journal about a new kind of light they are developing. It works on infrared light...but there is a catch.
The light flickers very fast, and the goggles actually "black out" when the light is off, so the only info your eyes get is when the light is on. So even though the enemy could see this, if the light is only on 1/3 of the time, their cameras/goggles would have to be in pretty good sync/timing with the light to get a solid picture of it...its using the capture rate of the other goggles to its advantage. Don't know how far off that is though... - jessicah628, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://digg.com/hardware/Organic_light_forms_Coming_soon_to_a_small_screen_near_you
Check out this story from today's Philadelphia Inquirer. Talks about Universal Display Corp., who is developing this tech. - logomancer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Well, then we discovered that OLEDs have the operational lifetime of a diseased gnat. Perfect for throwaway MP3 players, but not so much for TVs.
- co72, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Did anyone else instantly think "Wii" when they saw this?
You could have clear, IR emitting film that just lays over TV screen. No more sensor bar, the IR apparatus for the Wii mote would be basically invisible, probably emit more and farther to provide more robust tracking? Probably could work for a lot of other mouse like devices with media centers and stuff. - flarn2006, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@CeeJayOK:
My father has a HUD in his car too...but it's a Corvette convertible. - roosterjm2k2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2IR Displays have been available in cars for a while now. I believe cadillac tried it...but it didnt go over very well...
- toasty168, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3because people in power are afraid they won't be
- meatmcguffin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Two people tell you that you're wrong and i'm the dumb one?
Seeing as you blocked me anyway: you are a pretentious tit. Have a good day! - LLLSecretChimp, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5Benefiting the human race and fighting wars are not mutually exclusive.
- adragontattoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1doesnt even need NV goggles, my cheapo old webcam shows IR if I point a remote at it.
- CeeJayDK, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Displays in windshields do not need to be invisible to the naked eye , so you don't have to complain that this military tech haven't reached ordinary consumers.
Besides , Heads Up Displays already exists in some cars.
My father has a HUD in his car - A BMW 5-series. It displays the speed and navigational information. - GottIstTot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2OLED lifetimes have increased dramatically and are incorperated into cellphones and mp3 players at the moment. As the chemistry becomes more understood they will make their way to even televisions. There are labs that have perfected chemistries in the TV range but it takes years to actually incorporate them into usable products. It's one thing to make a lab sized test tube of OLED precursors it's quite another to make them on an industrial scale.
- mushroomtap, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4@austindkelly
money == power == money == power ... ad infinitum - Caerbannog, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2No, it wouldn't work at all. The Wiimote has to see discreet points in order to determine its directional offset from them.
- co72, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Actually, I know someone who uses a roomba "virtual wall" right now with their Wii, which works great. I don't think it provides "discreet points". I'm not intimate with the how the wiimote works at all, but how would saturating an area with IR not work?
Although you may right - then who's to say a overlay couldn't be designed to display "discreet points"?
So saying it "wouldn't work at all" concerning the possibilities of this completely fictional product displays an amazing lack of creative thought on your part. - Sgurdcrimp, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Whoever posted this is about 4 years late in posting..... I've seen this sooo many times since then its rediculous... they've released cell phones and mp3 players that already implement OLED screens.......
Tv's are most likely due this year or next......
sorry but buried - meatmcguffin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Well it wouldn't work no matter what; it's physics. You need at least a point of a known size to calculate distance; the size of the point, as judged by the sensor, gives the distance between the sensor and the emittor. You need two separate points to figure out the relational angle of two; given by the size difference in the two points as read by the sensor.
A wall of ir could give distance, if you had a sensor sensitive enough to calculate the intensity of the light but how would a 2d source provide an reference for angles? - NailToTheX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I love it when stuff shines invisibly - its quite cleaver...
Its kinda like the super duper meat slicer that slices meat so thin, you can't even see it! Perhaps these night vision goggles could detect impossibly thin roast beef due to the IR it gives off? - co72, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Hi, obviously you can't read, otherwise you would have seen what I had written above regarding "two seperate points" on a screen.
So I guess yer kinda dumb. And now blocked. - Joe_rigby, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1See your text, but first, buy these goggles. Oh, they cost a *****-ton more. Yea, 10 billion more.
- austindkelly, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5I concur, why is it that every advancement is automatically put to use in war?
- goeatsmsht, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1"Organic LEDs that emit invisible NIR wavelengths could be used to make displays that you do not want everyone to see."
Can you say erotica you can read at work? - Topher06, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Wow, OLEDs find a place in a product, other then cheap MP3 players. What happend to this darling technology gem of the early 21st century. I was supposed to have my 50" OLED television that cost $500 because of how easily and cheaply OLED displays could be produced *using a modified Epson printer". Instead this technology has become a joke and novelty, allowing shiny mirrored surface MP3 player's with a display hidden behind it. Lets keep OLED off front page news, its not worth it.


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