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- domr, on 10/12/2007, -2/+57"...and will set you back $995"
Thanks, but no thanks. - merreborn, on 10/12/2007, -3/+30Er, Jake57 has a good point. Wireless mice and keyboards make sense 'cause they hardly use any power. An LCD, with its backlight, uses a ***** of a lot more juice than a mouse does, *and* it transmits much more data (which uses even more power)...
What's the *point* of wireless if you still need a power cable? One of the nice things about a wireless mouse/keyboard is you can pick them up and take them across the room (if you have a projector/big screen). That wouldn't work if they still had power cords hanging out of them.
And really, how often do you move your monitor anyway? Usually, they sit in the same spot for years... - MagicBobert, on 10/12/2007, -0/+26That's not really practical because it would take an enormous amount of power to transmit power wirelessly. Such devices would be horribly inefficient.
If you want to create it by magnetic induction, you'd need an incredibly powerful magnetic field to generate enough power to run a PC. We're talking like, your wireless power generator would attract your fridge. - intent, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23Now if only power can be wireless...
There are too many cables behind my desk right now. Wireless power should be looked at as an option. - sdrawkcaB, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21Soon enough the tower will be kept in a seperate room, with all peripherals wireless.
- zweben, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20BRB, I have to go over to my computer to put a CD in the drive.
- Godel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15They already make wireless extension cords.
http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/wec.shtml - MagicBobert, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12For high resolution displays, there's got to be quite a bit of compression going on. The last thing I want is a compressed signal being sent to my monitor.
- jake57, on 10/12/2007, -21/+32And the power cord goes where?
- EochaidRiata, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13"The way I heard it is that there is no way to regulate wireless power, so the early utility co.s adopted wired power."
Is that what you learned when you were earning your physics degree at Hollywood Upstairs Institute of Technology? - zweben, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Or get a laptop.
Hey! You can now move your display around. No trailing cords! MAGIC. - aurifex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10iMac, computer and monitor in one + wireless keyboard and mouse = only one cord to deal with.
*ducks and hides from mac haters* - merreborn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Just in case anyone hasn't figured it out yet, the wireless extension cord is a joke. Click on "Add to cart". It takes you to a "Ha ha, fooled you!" page. There are a lot of items like that on thinkgeek.
- SourWorm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10"What's the *point* of wireless if you still need a power cable?"
Well for one it is easier to plug in just one cord for power, but besides that there are other benefits. Instead of thinking about how it doesn't help the monitor move around freely, how about the other end of it .. the source. Might make it easier to have different sources and perhaps bring in your laptop and easily use the bigger monitor. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8The big questions is. What hit do you take in terms of quality and lag.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13"...and also offers WEP secured transmission."
Now I just hope my neighbors get it so that I never have to download my own porn again. It'll all be streamed to my router. - noGoodNamesLeft, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Power Over WiFi (POW!) in action:-
http://static.flickr.com/25/63849013_0bf88b56b8.jpg?v=0 - merreborn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+51024 x 768 x 60Hz x 32 bit color = 180 megabytes/second (of course, this is *raw* bitmap)
802.11g = 54 megabit (max) = 6.75 megabytes/second
Note that this thing is supposed to even work with 802.11b, which is under 2 megabytes/second.
So yeah. That's 99% compresion, over 802.11b. That can't be good... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I have a Store in NJ where I want to connect a second monitor to my Computer which has a monitoring cameras connected to it. The second monitor has to be at the other end of the store mounted on the ceiling?
You are applying it to an everyday scenario. Just because you dont need it doesn't mean nobody does. - Lenin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I wouldn't trust this too much as the bandwidth in a typical a b or g network is not enough to fully support a wireless monitor.
the VGA or DVI connection your monitor has to your computer is uncompressed, pixel-by-pixel, data of the image your monitor shows, refreshed many many times every second.
Even at optimal conditions this will not show as good of an image.
Now assuming you put encryption, and that the bandwidth goes down due to normal factors such as interference, then the image will be worse to a point where any motion intensive content will not show properly. ( movies, games) - LiquidPenguin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@merreborn
If you click through to the actual product page, you'll see that the target market isn't necessarily the mobility market, it's the ease of installation market. Some of the examples they give should be good examples. For instance.
A digital sign outside a store front. Rather than snaking many feets of expensive cable from the back of the store where the PC is safely secured to where the sign is in front or relocating the PC where it's at risk for prying eyes and sneaky fingers, a store owner would simply install this unit and either use a wireless router or snake cheap Cat5 cable around.
Another example would be as a super thin client (classrooms, museums and boardrooms) where all you have would be a screen, keyboard, mouse and this device. The PC would be located elsewhere and access would be accomplished by simply logging in. In this regards, I would think an elcheapo laptop would be a better solution, with the minor exception that a much larger screen could be used.
Another example is presented in the usage diagram. The configuration would be immediately obvious to all of the presentation applications noted. Set this thing up permanently at some location and bring in your laptop. Wirelessly link the laptop to the device and voila! Instant presentation setup without all the headaches of trying to locate the correct cables. (Finding the remote would be another matter entirely.) - anjael, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@merreborn
I would prefer to have my computer as far away from my desk as possible. The horrid noise from the fans is not a welcome sound when recording through a mic.
And yeah, there are plenty of alternatives to horrid noise fans but those require me to spend money. :P
But @ $995, maybe I can wait a bit. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4What the hell is the point of repeating something which has been said before like 5 times.
- codefreakxff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3What the hell is the point of repeating something which has been said before like 5 times.
- dancpsu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It could be good for having a VR helmet without having to lug around a computer...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Just because there is a device which does this doesn't mean everyone has to use one. There are situations where it could come in very handy say you want to put an extra monitor in a corner attached to a system which has monitoring cameras attached to it.
Or you need to connect your HTPC to an overhead projector.
Its for a niche market and hopefully technology like this leads to advances for better wireless products. - foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2My school got wireless VGA transmitters over 802.11 a, but it has about 3 seconds lag and extremely choppy frame rate. Most teachers just use wired, even with wireless in their rooms. I go to high school btw.
- Thorlord, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2^^ why is it that your schools get to have expensive wireless monitors foolfromhell and the highschools around here have Mac's from 2000?
Christ, our schools need more funding, i wish the republicans would stop cutting school budget to give the money to the rich guys.. its starting to piss me off. - Gerz1219, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Completely useless. One would do better to piss on a big stack of $995 in assorted bills -- at least the piss-soaked money could be thrown at the hungry and homeless later and it would be a less perverse way of mocking their relative poverty than buying this worthless trinket. If I understand correctly, this gadget removes a wire between two stationary objects which never have any need to be in separate rooms -- and it does so with significant degradation to signal quality and unnecessary consumption of network bandwidth. Please, if you're thinking of buying this, put the computer in a stylish cabinet, rest the monitor on stop of it, and donate $1,000 to charity.
- zweben, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Why would you even want or need a wireless desktop display? Is it that hard to run a cord between two large objects that you aren't going to move more than once every few months?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4The person who can find the answer to your question will be a billionaire. The one frontier mankind has failed to conquer efficiently.
- LiquidPenguin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4@ EochaidRiata
"Is that what you learned when you were earning your physics degree at Hollywood Upstairs Institute of Technology?"
He's talking about the Wardenclyffe Tower. It's been a while since I've read up on it. The way I understand it, Tesla envisioned this tower a huge power generating tower with massive grounding rods deep into the ground. I think the idea was to "push" available energy from the ground into the air and receiving devices would pull it down and return it to Earth. Basically a super powerful inductance producing tower. The science nuts will have to excuse me from the accuracy of the previous statement, it's all from rusted memory. Anyhow, Tesla completed the tower, but due to lack of funds the transceiving tower was never completed.
The science is supposed to be pretty sound. I understand AM radios work on that exact same principle and the Japanese started new experiments that are supposed to be derived from Teslas work for use in cell phones where the cell towers would power the cell phones. Problem is, we've become a power hungry world and our technology has developed towards consuming more and more power in ineffecient ways. I suppose that's why a lot of people scoff at things like this, they're so used to using wired, power hungry, devices. - garethevans, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Wouldn't magnetic induction allow that?
- wem003, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If it weren't $995 and didn't suffer from compression issues it would have been good for projector and HTPC.
But wireless monitor on the desktop - nah... - squegie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I've always had a few different visions for next-gen computers. Essentially, the brains of the computer will be shrunk down into a small enclosure, similar to external hard drive enclosures are currently. If it looked and worked like a PDA does (not even concerned about throwing a cell phone in there yet), that would be ideal.
So you take your device and insert it into a laptop shell -- this shell has your screen, keyboard, mouse, etc. Or, you go to your desk and drop it into a cradle so you can use your desktop's monitor, mouse, and keyboard.
Going a step further, a form of wireless similar to bluetooth and wifi (but a step or two above) should allow you to keep the device in your pocket and use a nearby mouse/keyboard/monitor. The biggest issue is of course the monitor, as wireless monitors are essentially nonexistent.
This device would take us one step closer to the not too futuristic pocket computer that actually does everything a full-sized PC does (and more). - cybersamurai, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Here's an idea: get a laptop.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Great point.
Projectors are usually mounted on the ceiling and would benefit from not having to run a long wire from your HTPC. - thomashallock, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"why are you still connecting to your monitor with a cable? What are you, some kind of luddite?" awesome. yes.
- garethevans, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Considering it probably doesn't involve any software, it'd be very easy indeed.
- garyfranz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1the only real use i see for this is to remove a possibly long video cable run in a projection system
- kualla, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What I am waiting for is a wireless mouse and keyboard that can connect over your current 802.11 wireless signal. So with my laptops built-in wireless I can: connect to a WAP, connect a mouse, connect a keyboard, and connect anything else wirelessly such as a webcam, printer, headset, etc... I don't like using a laptop and having to plug in like 10 different usb plugs.
Using strictly 802.11 for making the data connections would allow laptop users to have a wireless docking station.
And for people like me who bought a new laptop and not more than a year later the USB ports died out, well we could still use all the extra peripherals (gotta luv Dell's great quality) - ZeonZumDeikun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well, all I have is two words; one of which is "HOLY".
- mcfly1204, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3*****, hiding your computer is cool.
- thomashallock, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I wonder what sort of latency this thing imposes.
- baudbwoy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Cool idea, I was looking into something like this a few months back but couldn't find anything. At 1G there is no way this will sell...now. I see this thing being a good thing, imagine mounting your monitor on a wall or taking the monitor with you into the bath room while you answer natures call you can finish reading that article on digg.
- ardellin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@aniruddha23
Yes, I agree that there could be a niche market for this kind of thing, maybe in the business world if there are not already similar solutions (I'm guessing there are). But why does this article market the item towards home users? Even more, it sounds like everyone could use one and that it is just as useful as wireless keyboards/mice. Why? As pointed out by many above, you already have a power cord, and your moniter isn't something like a mouse or keyboard that you may move around a lot.
So thinking about home users, which the article is clearly geared towards, issues like quality and lag would be the first be the first questions that come to mind after price. I'm kind of surprised myself why they didn't mention anything beyond the resolution. - antdude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hack the monitor!
- DaffyDuck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1But for the price they are asking you might as well buy another computer. Heck, you could get a 17" iMac for the price and wirelessly network it with another computer.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"and also offers WEP secured transmission."
I have just lost all respect. WEP is the lamest security ever. -
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