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- inactive, on 02/03/2009, -1/+37After checking out the video demo here, I want one of this little jammies for my entertainment center in the living room. Wonder when they'll actually start shipping?
- Ahnteis, on 02/04/2009, -0/+26That's what she said.
- xmykro, on 02/04/2009, -1/+13Game changing platform, well done Nvidia.
- lingfield, on 02/04/2009, -4/+15Atom 1.6ghz processor is much faster then a Pentium III 1ghz processor.
the Atom 1.8ghz processor is as fast as a 2.8ghz pentium 4 processor.
get your facts straight. - 350Zed, on 02/04/2009, -0/+10I hope the XBMC and Boxee development teams are watching. I'd love to see them hook onto this and work up GPU-offloading based on this platform.
- JayD16, on 02/04/2009, -1/+10If nVidia can get a manufacturer to churn these out for under $300 they'll be positioned to blow the PS3 and 360 out of the home theater race. I love the media capabilities of my PS3 but it can't even run linux like this thing can run vista.
...of course, that's a BIG if. - Sonixunite, on 02/04/2009, -1/+10"Why is it that 3 years later PCs are having such a hard time catching up?"
...because you are delusional? - jboitnott, on 02/03/2009, -2/+10Nice little machine... It needs a BD player though. Add another few inches in height and width and turn it on its edge and you'd have enough room for a slim slot load DVD.
- AmyVernon, on 02/03/2009, -1/+9Totally. It looked very cool.
- Ricochetbiscuit, on 02/04/2009, -1/+9True, it's not going to have any real gaming capability beyond some light duty Sims or Spore type stuff but as an HTPC, it's pretty nice, small and you know it's going to be DIRT cheap.
- inactive, on 02/03/2009, -1/+8That thing is tiny! I can't believe a whole computer is in that little box!
- mythicflux, on 02/04/2009, -0/+6Not quite, Via has had the Nano and Pico ITX platforms for quite a number of years. (Of course Via's GPU are nowhere near as effective as NVIDIA's). As a whole all NVIDIA did today was announce a small form factor PC with a faster video card that still isn't really powerful enough for gaming.
- mythicflux, on 02/04/2009, -0/+6Because the PC's uses a general purpose computing module. For this platform Nvidia wanted to remain compatible with normal computers (so it can run Vista/Windows 7/XP/Linux etc). No sense in creating a special hardware system that requires all new software to be written that will only work on the unit and nothing else.
- Ricochetbiscuit, on 02/04/2009, -0/+6I think that's a very real possibility.
- MyNameIsGusto, on 02/04/2009, -0/+6I can't believe how small that thing is! I wonder what it would be like to hold one.
- Chordonblue, on 02/04/2009, -0/+5Yes, VIA is crazy. They had a chance to totally OWN this market and thanks to their idiotic pricing model, they've all but lost it now.
There is currently NO competition for the Atom processor and chipset. Nvidia's solution will likely be overpriced for something like a netbook, I've seen/heard nothing but concepts of VIA stuff, and AMD still apparently believes there's no market for any of it... Unreal. - mythicflux, on 02/04/2009, -0/+5Technically Ion did surpass the Wii in terms of games. In that the Ion platform can run a new game like Left 4 Dead at 720p (HD) resolutions ~30FPS while for Dead Rising they had to cut out a lot of content to get it running on a Wii at 480p (SD) resolution at ~30FPS.
Also, Moore's law. A two fold increase would be in line with what you should expect given a 3 year time frame. - Ricochetbiscuit, on 02/04/2009, -2/+7Thank you lingfield - exactly... well said
- LanceUppercut, on 02/04/2009, -0/+5haha niiice. Logged in just to digg this up.
- graemee, on 02/04/2009, -0/+4Add a blue-ray drive then
- Wolfie351, on 02/04/2009, -1/+5This will be a great test to see who actually reads the article and who is just looking at the pretty pretty pictures.
- davidrools, on 02/04/2009, -0/+4The diagram shows it being compatible with any Socket775 CPU w/ up to 1333MHz FSB...not too shabby for a system that can be so compact.
- fabio1, on 02/04/2009, -0/+4looks awesome. I actually read the review, and, for a htpc, this seems like a godsend. They do complain a bit about the fansink being audible, but I think that having one of these in a larger box with better cooling would hit the sweet spot.
I don´t know of anything better out in the market. hopefully they will release this soon. - purelithium, on 02/04/2009, -0/+4If nvidia sold those today, I would buy one. Pair that with Windows 7, and you have a great HTPC.
- handheldchimp, on 02/04/2009, -0/+4Please, for god's sake people...USE THE REPLY BUTTON!!!
- venom8599, on 02/04/2009, -0/+3Yeah, but the diagram is for the 9400 MGPU. It can (and already is) be(ing) used with those processors. But you're not going to see one of those CPUs in a system that compact because of thermal issues and power issues (for netbooks). That form factor is just to test out the Ion platform (Intel Atom + 9400MGPU).
- tracmaster, on 02/04/2009, -1/+4http://laptoping.com/intel-atom-benchmark.html
http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-4412-view-Intel- ...
some of you guys are talking out of your ass, heres benchmarks - Kwipper, on 02/04/2009, -1/+4Somehow I get the feeling that this will not run crysis
- fabio1, on 02/04/2009, -0/+3does your wii plays 1080P videos? you´re comparing tortillas with gorillas here.
- Raptor007, on 02/04/2009, -0/+3I don't think any CPU could be less efficient per clock cycle than the Pentium 2/3/4 chips. I highly doubt that's the case with Atom.
And the Xbox 1 made an excellent HTPC with a Celeron 733MHz (worked great for 720p or less), so I'm sure this will have no problems in that role. - fabio1, on 02/04/2009, -0/+3unfortunately i can´t digg you twice. well done sir. well done.
- mythicflux, on 02/04/2009, -0/+3That and lower the price for the product lines. I find it ridiculous that first generation EPIA boards with a 533mhz CPU from 5 years ago cost $99-139 when a brand new Atom 230 mainboard from Intel is available for $70.
- fabio1, on 02/04/2009, -0/+3not quite good for gaming, but powerful enough for HD videos... couple one of these with a blu-ray player and BOOM, you get an awesome htpc.
ps: no, they don´t explode. - Ricochetbiscuit, on 02/04/2009, -0/+2Yes, unfortunately VIA needs to get some OEMs on board with Nano... The platform is pretty nice but they announced it months ago and we've seen little in terms of product concepts with it thus far....
- Ricochetbiscuit, on 02/04/2009, -0/+2FTA - Live demo video is here:
http://hothardware.com/Articles/NVIDIA-Ion-Referen ...
(bottom of the page) - topho, on 02/04/2009, -0/+2words*
- MrFrostyUK, on 02/04/2009, -1/+3Simply awesome, ok it might not be quite up to standard for todays modern gaming - no it probably *WONT* run Crysis well- (before anyone mentions that), but for games a couple of years old it will probably do very well - WoW box and HTPC all rolled into one.
- autobulb, on 02/04/2009, -0/+2I'm a little confused. In the demo video they test out 1080p video on a plasma screen which I would assume is 1080p max. Why then, is the video window so small when they open it up? Does Windows Media Player shrink it down until you maximize it? When I open up a 1080p video in Media Player Classic it fills up my entire 1080p TV screen even before maximizing it.
- Taiyoryu, on 02/04/2009, -0/+2HTPC running which OS? Not a single graphics card manufacturer provides drivers with h264/mpeg4 video acceleration for Linux. OSX restricts access to hardware acceleration at the API level meaning only QuickTime video gets special treatment. So that leaves Windows via DirectX Video Acceleration. At this rate 3GHz CPUs will have dropped sufficiently in price that you won't need a GPU for 1080p playback unless you're trying to shrink the size of the HTPC because not everyone wants a tower in their living room.
- Chordonblue, on 02/04/2009, -1/+3Yes, but given Nvidia's recent track record on chipsets that self-destruct, can we trust it?
- fabio1, on 02/04/2009, -0/+2that´s why you´re supposed to use their tweaked codecs to take advantage of the GPU.
This thing is being released by NVIDIA, so no surprise that the GPU gets a bigger role than the CPU. - Sonixunite, on 02/04/2009, -0/+2The problem with scy1192's argument is that he has confused the Atom+GMA with the Atom+9400M (aka Ion). The Atom with GMA performs exactly as he says the Ion does, while the Ion is incredibly on par, if not better than the Wii.
- jgtg32a, on 02/04/2009, -0/+2I like how the automated script saw Nvidia and put a comment about nvidia's problems
- venom8599, on 02/04/2009, -0/+2This is just a reference testbed for the platform. The final products the platforms wind up in (netbooks, etc...) will have some of the functionality you mentioned.
- doshindude, on 02/04/2009, -0/+2Goddamnit.
I just bought a netbook. WTF. It's obsolete already. - freshivore, on 02/04/2009, -0/+2Amazing, I just wish nvidia would give us better linux drivers...
- aubrey, on 02/04/2009, -0/+2The 180 series drivers add support for pure video like functions under linux. See:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article& ...
Also, I read somewhere that the next major release of MythTV will support this acceleration. - inactive, on 02/04/2009, -0/+2 I have an EEE PC and I run Google Earth, older PC games like Max Payne. multitask while Mozilla is open with 30 tabs, all kinds of stuff. It'll even play a lot of 720P video just fine if it's not encoded at too high a bitrate. I use it like a regular PC and it performs very well, most of the time I leave it running at 800mhz. It's more powerful than you might think.
- Elranzer, on 02/04/2009, -0/+1I dugg you down, so I could digg you up twice.
- mypetridish, on 02/04/2009, -0/+1is it possible to use the Multimedia Center application in the Windows 7 to be an extender to a computer on the network with Media Center?
just like how I could use my XBox 360 as an extender. -
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