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- DavisFreeberg, on 10/12/2007, -15/+75No Digg, Submission is inaccurate, the article says LESS then $1,000.
- theone3, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26Firstly, less than 1000. Secondly, 'expected to', but no source given. Thirdly, it's all just idle speculation at this point. It will cost what it costs to make it, plus profit margins. If they can sell it for >500, they will. If they can't, they won't. The lower the price, the higher the sales. So it's in the interest of Microsoft/Manufacturers and consumers to make this as cheap as possible.
- fanboydcs, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12I think a device that was $499 that performed like the Nokia 770 / OQO (same size as the nokia 770) with a slide out keyboard and touch screen would rule. It would need a 800x480 res screen so you could browse the web. It would rock if it ran linux maemo, and was able to stream all my content to it..
- Steaminx, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13I'm typing this from an iBook and even I think the Origami has potential. Open your mind.
- technicolor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I could see myself paying as much as $700 or $800 for it. My 14" wide screen laptop is more than I like carrying around. An Origami looks like it would be much more manageable.
- kolop1, on 10/12/2007, -9/+17 If it is 1000$. I will just buy a laptop.
- hendoz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I believe that if this device shows up $500 + or - $100, it will be the next "it". I can think of a thousand ways to use this device already. There are a lot of tasks that fall in between my Pocket PC and my laptop. Also if you bring this in at that price point you are going to snag a lot of iPod/Pocket PC users. I am no MS fanboy but I do give credit where credit is due. P.S. I would seriously think about selling both my Pocket PC and iPod if this thing can do anything close to what initial reports are hinting at.
- rcomegys, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6guys, I realize he didn't exactly state this correctly, but the article's still a good read, and it got a good discussion going. Plus, you couldn't resubmit this story without making it a dupe. Stop acting like Digg police, cuz that ain't your job. If people like it they'll digg.
- Barlo_Mung, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Not true. The target price point for the platform is around $500. This is according to people at MS I've talked to. Non NDA info even.
- Rosewood, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Then a small, tablet pc device isn't for you. There is a niche market for these things mate. If you think $1000 is too much then ... its not for you. You aren't that niche market.
Cheerio. - FooYoung, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Not sure exactly what this device is all about, but the OQO (www.oqo.com) is a device that has had XP running long before this Microsoft idea. It is however a little more expensive, but is a full fledged PC in your pocket or desktop. Expensive but cool. So I'm not sure what the big deal is with this Microsoft unit.
- kcmcgruff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Forgot to add...if you take into consideration the cost of various devices, iPod, PDA, Laptops, if this thing comes out under $500, considering the portability and size, you almost HAVE to get one.
- SilentBobSC, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"iPod killer ? doubt it..."
I don't see this as being marketed as an iPod killer, it's a completely different catagory of device. iPods do their thing quite well and noone is arguing that, however this is more along the lines of a fully functional "palmtop" with tablet-like uses.
Just because MS releases something that can play music (along with alot of other functions) doesn't mean they're trying to do in the iPod. That'd be nearly as improbable as OSX taking 50% of the market overnight ;)
SB - Steaminx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5It would be so much more attractive at $500. The Origami does look promising.
- piratearggghhh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I actually think $1000 range is pretty cheap if it's a tablet PC alternative. If it has all the functionality of a tablet with ultra portability and extended battery life, this thing is gonna be hot - even cutting into the PDA markets. The $500 range is probably unrealistic but if it is, even better.
- mcbesq, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yes, because the Newton was an astounding success and $79 for an OS is such a high price point.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Well anything around the $800-$1000 mark is rather expensive.
- felchdonkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm fully on board with that. I can't see spending $1000 for this, but get down to the $500-600 range, and I'm suddenly looking at a device category I hadn't thought of before. I'm not going to replace my Treo, or my iPod, but I can think of a lot of times when something less than a laptop but more than a PDA would be just the thing.
I have to give MS props if they are really selling this themselves - they're starting to take a lesson from Apple on the idea of controlling the experience from software to hardware.
There's still plenty of opportunity for them to screw it all up with bad UE, through shoddy manufacturing, third party bundled apps (read: in-device advertising), or a crap interface. But there's also a chance for them to win over Apple consumers like me.
Look at what they've done with the interface for the 360, or the new Office. Microsoft might finally be winning me over through good products instead of just relying on corporate purchase orders. - mikedpirone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Wow description is misleading and aparently barely half the people on digg ever read the story before they comment. It says and I quote "Final prices for the gadget are not finalised but it is expected to cost less than $1,000 (£572)." It doesn't say that it will cost $1,000.
- EvilCowSan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4i think it's gonna have to be 500 or less to sell seeing as it's not a full laptop and it's more in the entertainment genre(ie ipod, psp, etc)
- jbstrick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I would like for someone to explain what this device actually is? How will it be used?
- dlichteman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Yeah we had a guy come in to work with the OQO......that thing freaking ROCKS!!!!!!
- BritOverseas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If this can do even half of what their "leaked" video says it can do then $500-750 is about fair. I myself would like to see how it manages to do GPS, without a built in dongle but there you go (didn't see one hanging off anywhere in the vid, did you?).
For all of the features I want, maybe I would pay $650, I don't know, we will have to see. It would do them well to have several different iterations and a VERY stripped dwon version of XP, makes no sense to have a full version. - Karyyk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Oh come on... When something is quoted as "Less than $1,000" you know damned well that means $999.99. You want to get petty over a few cents, go right ahead, I'll go dig some out of my couch.
This thing needs to be considerably less than $1,000 to make a dent. At that price, I'll just use my educator's discount to grab a 12" iBook and save $100. - kcmcgruff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Nobody has ever said that Microsft is perpetually brilliant. However, I would imagine that even they are listening to forums such as this one and will hopefully take note of the comments concerning pricing. If it comes out below $500 I would imagine that it will move VERY well. I think the potential of the machine will be incredibly tempting. I know that I would strongly consider one.
- phlll, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I don't see this as competing with the IPod at all. This is competing with palmtops. Totally different market.
I don't see buying one at ~$1000. ~$400 would be a hard enough sell, considering what I'd actually use it for. - ryogahibiki, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2$1000 seems kinda pricey for what is offerred so far, but I'm going to hold judgement until the final product is released. Was hoping for around $500.
- neozeed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I currently have a sony u50, and it works quite well.. I picked it up for about $1000 USD in japan over a year ago... Now its starting to get a tad slow if anything Im thinking of the cpc when it ships, but this thing makes me wonder how long either the cpc or this origami thing will be out.....
- mos6507, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1There is going to be a convertible version with a keyboard called Kenesis. I think that's the one to watch. I'd pay $1,000 for something like that if it were generally comparable to a $1,500 Fujitsu P1510.
- Hollister, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Did you read the article? it said less than 1000 which means more than 500 and less than 1000.
- orsoihaveheard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1When people say "I'll just get a laptop if it's USD1000", I'm wondering which laptop they're advocating. The ultraportables have a pretty significant price premium these days, but I'm not coming up with any feature matches at what I would expect to be the leve of Origami. I just bought a vaio sz and I may have been able to buy an Origami for every limb at its price.
- FishyJoe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Why would it be in their best interest to sell it for the lowest possible cost? Last time I checked, MS was in the business of making money, not selling things at the lowest possible cost. This isn't a loss leader like the 360, they won't be making money off game sales.
Are their keyboards the lowest cost? Are their mice the lowest cost? Is their software the lowest cost? Other than the 360, I can't think of another product that MS makes where they are the cheapest. And that's only because you can't run anything on the 360 without them making money on it, at least until it's hacked. - DragonQuester, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1so...is this microsofts answer to the DS and the PSP or what...? why are they doing this?
- irrision, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Heres probably a more accurate picture of what the Origami might cost instead of a wild "Less than $1000" estimate. http://www.digg.com/hardware/Origami_Price
- nelsonjj1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i sure hope that's the case. at $500 i would get it, but more than $800 and they might ruin it's potential
- SilentBobSC, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"... and aparently barely half the people on digg ever read the story before they comment."
You're just finding this out? :) - Artifez, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I like it for $499.99
Would buy one - Pepper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1iPod's are "insanely expensive" too you know.
Wonder how long before OS X x86 or Linux boots on this thing :P - eglobe1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i watched the the video in youtube before. it is kinda cool.
- chickenrob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think I will just get the $189 gp2x www.gp32z.com . Audio/video playack, game emulators, and it runs linux!
- mcbesq, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Folks,
Origami tablets are not going to be FROM MS. Origami is a joint project by MS and Intel. MS' part is a version of XP and/or Vista for the UMPC.
And NYTimes Circuits Section seemingly correctly qualified the price point: $500 - $1000 DEPENDING ON CONFIGURATION.
@ Henrrikk
Search on youtube and watch the origami promo. It's about 4 min. long and a little long in the tooth. Nevertheless, it gives an idea of the idea behind Origami: quick computing on the fly - Glandmaster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1makes me think of the pads from ST:TNG - neat
- jutendouji, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I doubt MS is stupid enough to release this product with such a high price tag.
The reason for that is basically that MS wants to expand his market with it's obvius ad campaing (Who am I, I am where you are, et al) so pricing it at 1000 USD would already be a bad move that'd limit it's market share. What I'm guessing will happen is the same thing that happened with the Xbox and the Xbox360, and that's MS releasing it for a more reasonable or attractive price (I'm thinking $499, $599, to compete with those cheap low end Dells that float around the net) and taking a loss on it for a couple of months. Yes, even if MS isn't the actual MANUFACTURER.
the point is that MS makes a BILLION BUCKS a WEEK on INTERESTS alone. I'm very sure that they could back a strategy like that with ease.
What do you guys think? - Pepper, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I have a Laptop, but a Origami will top the whole thing off... I mean, You cant just pull out your laptop anywhere.
It'd be interesting to see how the battery life and the hard drives are on these things. - jpesicka2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1you can't tell me that there's no way to play halo. i want to play age of empires & warcraft, aswell. so many other games.
- zsf555, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0dude, the think is dead already.. it came from microsoft.. they suck..
- loker269, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I am pretty sure microsoft already said they would not bring this to market unless they could do it for less than $800....
- doncirelli, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Under $1000" means $999.99 We all have been exposed to enough marketing euphanisms to know that by now.
- steven2ffff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0think about the smartphone prices, i guess $500 will be hard to reach. a HTC900 VGA PPC is more than this ,
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