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- blackkbot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+23Give it a decade and if it isn't around you woln't remember.
- kirwoodd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Not everyone is on digg 24x7 so stories make their rounds by audience.
- billflu, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Of course it sounds good in the lab, but how will it perform in the real world? Also, like all new technologies, it won't be very affordable at first. Am I just a pessimist?
- All4not, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9I don't get excited for prototypes. Most I never hear of again, because they can't mass produce it. Kind of like Blu-ray, but usually not even that good.
- EBFoxbat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6What's the density? 1000 mbps doesn't help if it's only 16 MB
- camix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4It is a dupe and also kinda old news. I read about these chips in the last issue of PC Magazine and they're supposed to be out commercially by 2008. Here's the article from the magazine:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2064705,00.asp - Ninjab3ar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@kirkwood
You're absolutely right. Heres a dupe: http://digg.com/hardware/New_Memory_Technology_Could_Replace_Flash_Chips
I'm not going to bitch about it like others do, though, mainly because you guys missed it last time it came around and would actually like your comments read by others. I don't understand why so many people complain about dupes, its not like it happens excessively. - affinity, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The reason we aren't 'booting from' flash is because of cost. Samsung's 36GB flash hard drive was priced at ~900. As the cost per gig becomes cheaper, you will start seeing flash used as main computer storage.. or at least a hybrid w/ current HDDs
- davidws, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I was in the lab at Philips when the Blue-ray prototype started working and playing classical music in an otherwise quiet open-plan office space. I was impressed :o)
- yensed, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5"500 to 1,000 times faster than the commonly-used flash memory".. Wouldn't that make it faster then a Hard Drive
- dualscreenman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4@kirwoodd
In mine, and many others', opinions Blu-Ray's slight improvements over DVD just aren't warranted by the cost. - SkyRider119, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Keep the tech comming ... Faster == better
- cinnix, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5Perhaps it is, but this article is a more interesting read. Other stories felt more like a synopsis, I preferred this one.
http://www.digg.com/hardware/Memory_chip_breakthrough_for_electronic_devices/who
All these people dugg this story so if it was that bad I guess there wouldn't be such a quickly growing list?
Apparently 3000 articles or so get submitted per day, rather than wasting effort telling us this, how about avoiding this story and go see something else? - davidws, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3It was about 4 or 5 years ago - either 2001 or 2002...not sure which!
- kirwoodd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1davidws,
when was that? was it 10 years ago? prolly not.
and thats my point All4not, prototypes seem to hit the street pretty quickly. - Dog_Paddle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Brilliant!
- RicktheBrick, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Access speed of ram memory is measured in nanoseconds. Access speed of hard drives is measured in milliseconds. One millisecond is equal to one million nanoseconds. USB flash memory is still slower than hard drives otherwise we would all be booting from them. This new memory might be faster than hard drives but still has a long way to go before it replaces ram memory.
- dualscreenman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@Cglass
What's the improvement from DVD to BR? Better video quality/audio is just about it. People flocked to DVD for improved A/V quality *plus* the many other convenience improvements such as lack of rewinding.
But better A/V for several hundred more? Nah, I don't think so. - Cglass, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yea why would people want their movies to look 2-4x as good straight out of the box, thats not like 400% better or anything.
- basselope, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Once again I must refer to the Wired article from July 2000:
"Moletronics will change everything"
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/8.07/moletronics.html
Chemically grown memory, terabytes for pennies, bigger, stronger, faster... and dead.
Don't feed me an "Oxy-clean" commercial, just tell me like it is! - josegutz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1DUDE... I want one.
- SirBotchness, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I heard about this sort of deal with magnetic memory...will it be practical? Hopefully. Lets see if they actually do something with it.
- 00monkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1who cares... Im just thanking god that its not another wii loving sony bashing story
- lordmetroid, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Blue-ray is not an open format... So just like Betamax people will not make use of it because the format isn't universally working on every system they wish to use their media on. Furthermore Blue-ray doesn't really give you any new features, so why would you pay huge amount of more money for nothing in return?
- jshusta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0they aren't going to boast any figures from the lab because it likely wasn't constructed in its smallest available size. someone has to do cost analysis for mass production first. a scientist is likely to tout some awesome but entirely theoretical figure, anyways. do you really want to be dissapointed when they hit the market, too expensive for you to buy and too small to be worth it anyways?
- mbabauer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1No, I think you are a "realist". Also consider we probably wont see this for at least a few years.
Can anyone say "RAMBUS"? - kirwoodd, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3really?
ever since USB I get excited about prototypes. Remember how quickly USB made it to everyday computers?
Whats wrong with blue-ray? I dont have it yet, but I see drives and disks for sale online. - goblue, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0IBM's Millipede project has been around for a long time. It works similar to atomic force microscopy but instead heating and cooling a polymer to record data in a massive array. Thats how its so fast - think 1000 read heads.
Heres one example of a story from 2005:
http://news.com.com/IBM+lets+Millipede+storage+out+for+a+stroll/2100-1015_3-5615421.html
And heres the first article that pops up when you search millipede on IBM's website
http://researchweb.watson.ibm.com/journal/rd/443/vettiger.html
Our research group uses these kinds of probes for other uses, which we'll post when its published. - frozen1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sounds pretty neat...
- lonnieh, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4Here is some more useless info: My balls itch.
- Cglass, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3Ok I agree the we aren't ready for Blu-Ray, but to say it's slightly better than DVD is just plain stupid.
- Coutts, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Yea I don't kno what the pessimism is about, I am absolutely positive we will see this technology working in our daily lives within 3 years....you guys have to realize how memory has evolved over the years. Back when you were using the 3.5 MB floppy, did you think you'd have a USB that could hold GIGABYTES??? No, so you'll see, it'll be around before you know it. Saying all this, I agree with you kirwood.
- GawtMilk, on 10/12/2007, -11/+7You sir, have no knowledge in storage mediums.
Flash memory is faster then a hard drive.
The RAM mother *****, do you speak it? - Svoma15, on 10/12/2007, -11/+4DUPE: http://digg.com/tech_news/IBM_touts_Flash_killer. Oldest One
- EricZBA, on 10/12/2007, -16/+43rd story about this to hit the front page in the last 24 hours


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