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- tavisjohn, on 03/08/2008, -1/+28It is called a PDA/SMARTPHONE and BLUETOOTH people!!!!
I've been doing it for more than 2 years! - threepio, on 03/08/2008, -1/+10I've got a Blackberry 8310 right now; my prime drive to get an iPhone is that it would sync seamlessly with my Mac. I love the pin system, but having to go through third party software to make it sort-of work makes the BB a little less cool than it should be.
- UCFartstudntJON, on 03/08/2008, -1/+10Douche.
- pintomp3, on 03/08/2008, -1/+10AT&Treason.
- mikewill7seven, on 03/08/2008, -0/+7I read your name as uc fart student jon.
- cleonm, on 03/08/2008, -0/+7Why stop with Cingular/AT&T? ***** all the cell carriers!
- CatsAreGods, on 03/08/2008, -3/+9***** the RIAA!
- Myztry, on 03/08/2008, -0/+6Digital phones are just Wide Area Network devices with DNS (Dialed Number Service) resolution.
ADSL Modems are just Wide Area Network devices with DNS (Domain Name Service) resolution.
The problem with the carriers is they don't want to admit they have become just data pipes. They don't won't you to be able to everything you can over the Internet (voice, messaging, video, data, etc) for a single fixed cheap time/data rate.
They don't want a PC convergence even though the handsets are more powerful than computers that were capable of providing all the services years ago.
Phone numbers could be entirely replaced by IPv6 addresses and resolved through Name Lookup. The carriers could (and possibly should) be cut out of all services except merely being a data carrier.
Service software would be as simple as downloading a program to utilize the handset hardware (speaker, microphone, camera, input methods) - cathpah, on 03/08/2008, -0/+6an iphone doesn't really count as a smartphone.
anything that runs windows mobile 6 can do what you described, and a whooooole hell of a lot more. - inactive, on 03/08/2008, -0/+5yes .. we need better cell phone especially in turkey
- chikoos, on 03/08/2008, -3/+8Its high time the two got along with each other!
- inactive, on 03/08/2008, -0/+5What this needs is open standards for phones and for connecting them to computers. If every manufacturer worked to them, then it would be far simpler to sync up everything.
- pinkblocks, on 03/08/2008, -1/+5Connecting to other devices is definitely the key.
- hwy9nightkid, on 03/08/2008, -1/+5It's now AT&T
- hadak, on 03/08/2008, -2/+5The "new" AT&T.
- GOVATENT, on 03/08/2008, -0/+3i tried that one with an iphone user. They told me, quote "The iphone has GPS to", I took out my XDA loaded TomTom and connected to satellites. Lets see your iphone do that.
- mateusap, on 03/08/2008, -0/+3I had a Motorola and tried for hours between installing drives and downloading programas and failed to connect to the pc. WIth my Nokia on the other hand i just connected the cables.
- deadbaby, on 03/08/2008, -2/+5I couldn't disagree with this article more.
On location based services: The biggest problem with this idea is that most people don't have a static enough routine for this to ever work. Just because I am working on a document at home doesn't meant I want a copy of it somewhere else. For my work data I most definitely don't want it being synced all over the place (over networks I don't control, over wifi) That's just a bad idea. And most obviously I wouldn't carry an RFID device of any kind. Whatever possible benefits it offers just aren't worth the possible privacy violations or security risks. You're also talking about a huge investment in bandwidth. One of your workers went home an edited together some videos in iMovie -- now you're syncing 4GB of data to their work computer for absolutely no reason. We don't have the infrastructure to make it work.
On syncing: I dunno... I own both an iPhone and a BlackBerry and they both sync great. I've even had good experiences with Windows Mobile devices. Exchange syncs e-mail, contacts, calendars, etc seamlessly. I choose what data I want to bring with me and, in a pinch, I can VPN into my home system and retrieve a file.
As far as getting cell phones & computers to "work together" I think they co-exist very well as unique devices. - inactive, on 03/08/2008, -0/+3for all the brains and all the money involved you would think that it would be clear to the manufacturers that making things seamless and smooth for the customer would work out better for both in the long run - that would be true genius - but no every manufacturer wants his own proprietary imprint - that's the politics of corporations - they want to win more than they want to serve the consumer even though it is the consumer's 'investment' that fuels the whole process
- Rotzooi, on 03/08/2008, -0/+2Warning: Windows Vista and Windows Mobile are one of those combinations that are not "aware of each other".
When doing what Vista insisted was synchronizing, instead it erased every last '+' sign from my telephone numbers. I always store all numbers with full international prefix, but clearly Vista doesn't approve. It took me a few unsuccessful attempts to realize the people I was dialing weren't all disconnected, but that was in fact a fault on my side. - blackjack75, on 03/08/2008, -6/+8Is it thanksgiving already?
- iamnot, on 03/08/2008, -0/+2Was this posted via bottle with cork from a desert island? I'd swear he is writing from 1995.
The iPhone and the Macbook Air are pointing to the future and have a huge lead down the track. Is there a particular reason he barely mentions the iPhone which is already solving this issue you raise and don't even mention the MBAir?
"every Dell, Acer and Apple — wants to get into the cell phone/handset business."
One of these things is not like the others...One of these things does not belong.
"Apple, which originated as a computer hardware and software maker, rolled out the iPhone handset last year, after making it big in the media player market."
Wow. I guess his editor suggested "Internet becomes popular after making it big in academic circles" was too big an understatement.
I think it was in the early 2000s that my Mac became aware of my Bluetooth Sony Ericson T68i. I'd walk up to my mac and it would unlock for me. I'd walk away and it would lock.
Storing files on the cell phone rather than a flash drive is a great idea. Having the crucial ones on a portable is great when you're off the grid is great, But you could suggest using the internet to store your files and access applications, or even better yet, connect you directly back to you home system that has ALL of them plus a helluva a lot of idle CPU power. Remote desktop access is far superior to trying to take it all with you.
Wait a year and look at the power available from 45nm Intel chips in cell phone enabled portables. Not cell phones, not laptops better than both and just one package. - screwy3333, on 03/08/2008, -0/+2i heard Nurv was working on this program named Synapse.....
- slezzzter, on 03/08/2008, -0/+2You shouldn't worry about RFID, it's the government mandated GPS unit that should frighten you. The one you can't turn completely off.
- zoli, on 03/08/2008, -0/+2I like the concept, but to take it a step futher, the real solution is when the mobile phone becomes the PC:
http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/03/08/the-cell-phone- ... - petard, on 03/08/2008, -0/+2My AT&T Tilt does what you want and it can do more like 3G and GPS!
- heavyd14, on 03/08/2008, -0/+2What does this have to do with cell phones? Cell phones, by definition are not static devices. Regardless of whether there is an address on file, they only have cell tower info to go on.
- jonshipman, on 03/08/2008, -0/+2Maybe he's Egyptian?
- FatherG, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1Put it inside of a big enough speaker and lets see that sucker work
- absint, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1The connectivity between a mobile and a Windows PC is a real mess. To make the synchronization work between my current Sony Ericsson K750 and Outlook on my laptop I had to install a packet of 50 Mb that's running several services with unclear names in the background. When I synchronize the contact list I end up with double entries in both Outlook and the GSM. On the calendar he gave up with an error about the date format. When the PC and the GSM where in range they saw each other by blue-tooth the performance of the PC came to halt because he saw the GSM as a navigation instrument.
On my mac mini I didn't had to install anything and I could synchronize the contact list without problems. I didn't try the calendar.
If we want good interoperability it has to be build as a decent API in the OS and on a way the GSM makers would see the benefit of using these.
The thing I become so tired of is that all consumer electronics are full with bloatware which can't be dis-activated while on the other end basic things don't work like synchronizing the outlook calendar. - supermanred, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1Actually, it's a Mac PC. PC stands for personal computer as in "IBM PC" which coined the phrase... so you are both right and both wrong simultaneously.
- milkmage, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1what the ***** are you talking about?
- GOVATENT, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1the old at&t. They still want your money and not provide service.
- Myztry, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1The iPhone is essentially just for the American market and the world is (believe it or not) a whole lot bigger than that.
There is no point me even grey importing an iPhone into Australia as it doesn't support 3G and we've phased out the old technologies. GSM is gone, and CDMA would be gone, except it received an extension.
My Motorola Razr V6 supports EDGE but without a carrier for the slower standard, it's pointless. - AlexBellisBrown, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1Here in Spain we have only 4 big operators. Vodafone, Movistar, Orange and Yoigo. The UK has O2, Orange, Vodafone and one or two others. The advantage of this is that the signal for each provider is roughly the same. And the price plans aren´t too bad either.
- supermanred, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1And you sir are very 1930s.
- flarn2006, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1That's not a PC; it's a Mac.
- supermanred, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1Syncs seamlessly. Sync your contacts, mail (ALL YOUR ACCOUNTS and settings), music, videos, and more. It will sync back everything too when you add new contacts etc while on the road.
Cant wait for the App Store to open, so basically I can have all the old jailbreak apps as official apps. - supermanred, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1Same to you.
- portos12, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1Handset market is already crowded with far too many phones
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http://www.e-uuu.com - giloron, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1I think that was his point. Took a couple of readings to figure it out though.
- inactive, on 03/09/2008, -0/+1dick hehehhehh....
- mrcpu, on 03/09/2008, -0/+1Sorry... I started writing 1/2 way though my thought process!! Kids, don't Drink and Digg!
The start of the thought was the idea that a logical thing would be for your cellphone to switch to voip mode as soon as you get inside your house or other wifi hotspot (a few smart phones do this now). I was thinking about this as I read the article...sort of a tangent....This then leads to the 911 issues over voip.
Sorry for involving you in my confusion! :-) - zoli, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1Hey, gimme a rich momma any time :-)
- zmedico, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1An important point that this article misses is that carriers often sabotage pc/phone interoperability as part of their business model so that they can force customers to pay for "extra" services. Wake up people!
Rather than be reliant on manufacturers and carriers to _allow_ pc/phone interoperability, a better approach is to insist on hardware that has open specifications so that you have an option to use third party software that makes the open hardware do what you want, regardless of your carrier's business model. For example, see http://openmoko.org/. - supermanred, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1Actually, when the App Store opens and you can get all the apps Ive been using on my iphone legally through iTunes, the iphone will do a whole hell of a lot more than a Palm device can. Plus games!
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- mhmdkhamis, on 07/08/2008, -0/+0The connectivity between a mobile and a Windows PC is a real mess. To make the synchronization work between my current Sony Ericsson K750 and Outlook on my laptop I had to install a packet of 50 Mb that's running several services with unclear names in the background. When I synchronize the contact list I end up with double entries in both Outlook and the GSM. On the calendar he gave up with an error about the date format. When the PC and the GSM where in range they saw each other by blue-tooth the performance of the PC came to halt because he saw the GSM as a navigation instrument.
On my mac mini I didn't had to install anything and I could synchronize the contact list without problems. I didn't try the calendar.
If we want good interoperability it has to be build as a decent API in the OS and on a way the GSM makers would see the benefit of using these.
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