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- goat77, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18That would be just plain awesome, but the media would cost a fortune.
- Gatesophile, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Psh, who reads the manual!?
- Gatesophile, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I say stick with Sharpies. They come in LOTS of colors, are way cheaper, and take less time! :D
- skyhighrockets, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Am I the only one who hates that endgadets article links are just engadget searches of the word?
- marix, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6just because it replaces silver with a different color doesn't change the fact that its still only 2 colors.
- Zgradis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5OK guys, get the story right... That disc is a photo-shop of 3 different color discs, the light-scribe isn't actually full color, they HAVE improved burn times with the new various color discs. The times have been cut in half, so 10 Min's to do a burn isn't bad when your coping album art (for the use of making copies of your PERSONAL Cd's). This is also a technology to make Cd's more professional looking. But the big thing is this technology is just at the newborn phase, give it two to three years and you will see FULL color Cd's...
Personally I HATE the look of a sharpie on my Cd's... - Cymrubeats, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8It takes long enough to burn a dvd, ***** waiting up to another 20-40 (that's monochromoe time, god knows what colour would be) minutes just to have a silly picture on it.
- FuzzyLumpkins76, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8Does anyone else feel like this is the most useless technology to come to optical drives in the past 10 years?
- LaTechTech, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You are right. It is hard to find. It does cost more. It also, when you are talking about dual layer, comes in packs of ten each in its own jewel case. However, I do like the results. It stands out. It makes a good way to send your family pictures; expecially of their newborns. If they leave it in the drive on their computer and forget about it. When they open the drive; they are going to know what it is. And they will probably put it back in a case instead of stacking it on top of the unknown, i will figure it out later, pile.
Just my 2 cents. I will be here all week. - MMNManiac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3i still say its a gimmick. i have a LS drive myself, and only used it twice. the media's expensive (I still have the other 23 disks), and frankly, most people i know dont really care if its color or not. if i wanted color, id just use an epson direct to cd/dvd printer, and spray the surface with a clear coat, and viola - full color, and water-resistant too :)
- headzoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@capty99 - Not true. Look at a comic book under a magnifying glass. You will see how they get all the colors you see by having the right mix of RGB *next* to each other. If you expose a dot of red, and a dot of blue, right next to each other, you will see purple.
- headzoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@capty99 - Just in case you still don't understand - http://www.480x.com/lightscribe.png
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5@ headzoo :
you cant do that because colors are a mix of the red green blue and white,
if you have a red on bottom, green in middle and blue on top you couldnt get a purple out of that because you get rid of half the blue and then youve got a teal. - P3ST4, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Hopefully they speed up the print times. Almost 40 minutes to print a high quality black and white disk label is toooooo long. I can't even imagine how long RGB labels will take.
- Durrok, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2He is saying that is the most he will pay for the dvd version of it.
- PrimaryRamus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2-For color, I think that CD inkjet printers win in the end. Lightscribe is too expensive per disc for for people to label many discs, and too fancy for those who don't need to label many discs nicely.
-The competing NEC labelflash seems to be better than Lightscribe for current monochrome labelling. I wonder if they will have a response. - dotdan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I just got a DVD RW with Lightscribe for ~$35 at NewEgg.
I haven't tried out Lightscribe yet, but where are you pulling $99 from? - MioTheGreat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3My CDs don't last long enough to justify this. Seriously....I reburn crap all the time...Thankfully we have Daemon Tools to reduce the need to burn cds by 99%.
- MikeSD34, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Inkjet printers mix the colors before putting them on, if the layers are already there, there's no way to remove just a little bit of a particular color, to get the color you're looking for. It's either all red, all blue, or all green. You can't just remove a little blue if it's in the middle.
- diecastbeatdown, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1the thing is they are planning on it and if good enough in the future it will get better/faster/cheaper/etc.
currently i use printable surface dvds and my epson 300 dvd printer. the quality is great, but i would like it to not involve inks and be an all-in-one process in my burner.
looking forward to what this technology can bring, especially if they ever make clear discs or white, whichever would provide a good base for great colors. - ScootUnder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1in november '05 an HP rep said they would have them out at the end of q4 or q1'06... this isnt that new of news, its just been pushed back so far that it seems like new news
- ellisgl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Lightscribe.com FAQ:
Q: Does the additional use of the laser in a LightScribe-enabled drive shorten its life?
A: Under typical labeling circumstances, there is no significant reduction in laser life. Based on typical use for both data and label sides of the disc, the laser is well within the design specifications. - barthosch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1lol, yes.. if anybody would, we would have heard of that probably two years ago.
- Nesh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Daemon Tools is now adware apparently"
All you have to do is uncheck the checkbox. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1they don't have silver ones do they, all the lightscribe discs i have are the gold ones
- p51d007, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2You know if you used a bunch of colored sharpie pens, you can acheive the same effect for 2/3 the cost
and time LOL....of course, you'd have to be a good artist.
I haven't read anything into the lightscribe thingy, but does it use a separate laser for the etching or the same
laser as burning. If it is the latter, it would seem that the laser would "wear out" sooner using it to burn and then to etch.
I use to make cd labels, but they take too long, sometimes impact the performance of the disk, bubble off, so I went back to just simply using a sharpie pen.......cheap and works just as well. - fredinator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Daemon Tools is now adware apparently
- koko775, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1capty99: Not necessarily. How do you think dual-layer DVD's work? They change the focal point for the laser. It's not unthinkable that you could have differently-colored layers involved in etching.
- IVIrMP3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is old news. Colored backgrounds were announced 6 months ago.
As to longevity, my LG lightscribe drive stopped burning Cd's or reading burned Cd's, but real Cd's are fine. Either it wore out or I had unknowingly installed some game with starforce the day before. - mrops, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Awesome for sure, but at the moment I havn't been able to find single dual layer lightscribe media. CDs and DVD5 media that I did find costed a fortune and is rare to find as is.
I can't figure out when there is a good demand for this, why aren't we seeing more media. - Suplyndmnd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wouldn't it be more logical (perhaps quicker too) if they could just get a coating that would turn a certain color based on laser intensity rather than trying to burn through layers.
- chongli, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@MikeSD34:
Inkjet printers do not mix colours. They print in a pattern called a halftone pattern. When the manufacturer states "2880 DPI", they are referring to the halftone pattern. The printer does not actually print 2880 unique pixels per inch, every dot is more or less exactly the same size and colour. It is the pattern of dots that produces different colours in the image.
Read up:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halftone - glafira, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think this should have been in the original.
- Crypty, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Meh. Lightscribe is kinda lame as it is. It takes way too long to do the same thing you could just do with a sharpie marker in 5 seconds. Also the software I have used for lightscribe has always been awful.
The worst part about it is the price of lightscribe media. - Diseage, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I work at Circuit City and we had an HP guy give us some info on upcoming lines and stuff. They said they have Color Lightscribe working fine in the labs, just the only problem is it takes about an hour to burn it, with about fifteen minutes to burn through the four layers. But he said it was coming. They just have to improve the time.
- ellisgl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0single colored - Clear, Green, Blue, Purple, Red, Orange and Black (just a really dark red - which I find the best of the dye's I've seen out there - of course texas heat will kill it off). You can do picutures - just of a darker tone on the data side (in Linux). This was done on CD-R not on dual layer DVD media.... Of course that makes me think that if you were able to do this you might be able to have 3 tones of dark..
- reevolutn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0it has to be CMYK or some similar you cant have RGB because that works by subtracting colours,
eg when R=0, G=0, B=0 the image on the SCREEN is black...
whereas CYMK adds colours, for example, when C=0 M=100 Y=100 K=0 you have red
you cant subtract inks from other inks once they have been layed - rig0rmortis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is pretty old news...
- mdougla1, on 11/18/2008, -0/+0the fastest software i know of to lightscribe discs, is nti's cd/dvd maker
i have it and it seems to do the job quickly. go check it out, www.ntius.com - VyRuZ, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1You must have bad writing then...
- ellisgl, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0A possibility would be to make a RGB (Or would it have to be CYMK?) layers on the top that when the laser is focused on that later it can burn the dye to clear (or clear to that specific color). Of course I don't know how well that would look and plus I can imagine $25 disc's. But it's just my 1/2 of a cent of an idea.
- ellisgl, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I guess that would be CYMK then (read above)
- sandpaperback, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I got a cheap lightscribe drive from newegg recently. It's really good for say, burning CDs of mp3s for the car. Like I have a Pearl Jam disc, a Weezer disc, a Queen disc, etc and they all have a decent image on them.
That said, I've all but switched to Linux full time now, and lightscribe isn't supported. So like someone said before "Sharpies FTW!" - lhsonic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0burying this topic because this is not talking about true color lightscribe but rather, different colored CDs.
- olddirtycr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0some people would rather it do it all by itself instead of having to burning it, bring it to a printer, then spray it.
- dirtyfratboy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4Aren't there colored CD-R's everywhere?
- Alkaline411, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3Agreed Sharpies FTW
- buzzert, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2I second that.
- Splizxer, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Wow, that looks like ***** to me.
- LooterMcBeer, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2I wont touch lightscribe until it does all of the following
- Costs the same as a Dvd burner does right now ($99 max)
- Media costs the same
- Does it in color
- Does it at the same time its burning the DVD or CD so i dont have to wait an additional 20 minutes for the top of it to be done.
Until they can do all that lightscribe is just something that is a cool idea but is completely pointless -
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