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James Kim's Body Found

ktvu.com — Spotted from helicopter

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  • LordHalo, on 11/02/2007, -576/+56this is unbelievable
    • jonathantneal, on 10/19/2007, -36/+314No this is actually believable, it's not sensationalized (like the other front pager), it's accurate, thank you. Thanks Digg for following this story so closely.
    • DeezNutz420, on 10/28/2007, -2537/+225"this is unbelevable'

      what is? that somone went missing and ended up dying? happens every day I dont see why this guy is so special. well, at least we wont have to read about his missing updates on digg every 5 minutes now lol.
    • LDanix, on 10/12/2007, -17/+36Link for live press conference.

      http://www.cnettv.com/?live=111991
    • matthewaaron, on 10/12/2007, -16/+77Thank you poorbusker for not jumping to conclusions on his condition...
    • jumanji69, on 10/12/2007, -189/+24I hope he is O.K.
      People have been known to survive through hypothermia
    • dolemite5005, on 10/12/2007, -9/+60At least this version of the story actually has an accurate title.
    • idreamincode, on 10/19/2007, -15/+394Found dead. So sad.

      Breaking news on kgw.com just said he was dead. Press conference from the Sherrif.

      Rest in peace. You will be missed.
    • jonathantneal, on 10/12/2007, -80/+7Okay, on the live coverage, the sheriff said something like "the body of james kim", I didn't like that, did anyone else see the live feed just now?
    • voldak, on 10/19/2007, -15/+138RIP James Kim. You will be missed. My thoughts and prayers go out to your family and friends. Such a tragic and emotional ending to this whole ordeal..
    • mrmontrose, on 10/12/2007, -33/+40RIP James......Just heard on the News
    • _Caboose_, on 10/19/2007, -57/+201@DeezNutz420:

      You, sir, are an *****. It doesn't matter if you know him or not - this is a person's life at stake. Grow up and have some respect.

      Anyway, I hope he's alright.
    • AmnestyGenocide, on 10/12/2007, -48/+34@DeezNutz420

      think about this comment next time you find yourself hurting...

      douchebag
    • Nichevo, on 10/12/2007, -6/+40Live report(hopefully works)

      http://www.kgw.com/sharedcontent/VideoPlayer/videoPlayer.php?vidId=57406&live=yes

      He did not make it.
    • twinklyJesus, on 10/12/2007, -54/+4The other frontpage story says "James Kim found dead", then links to this same story for details. It doesn't say anywhere that he is dead. Just that he was found face down and they are lowering rescuers to assist. No word yet on his condition..
    • Crass22, on 10/26/2007, -355/+37WHAT?!?!?!?! Huge media sensationalization of a missing person that isnt a blonde-haired, blue-eyed, upper middle class white girl?!?!!?!

      seriously though, terrible things happen to thousands of people everyday, Kim is just another one of thoes unlucky people. We've all seen the google maps, WHY THE HELL WAS HE ON THAT ROAD?!?!?!!? I live in Oregon and you gotta exercise some common sense when it comes to traveling, especially when the weather is bad. Also to anyone who doesnt live in cold climates, there was a guy last year that went missing in the forests here, and guess what they found first, his clothes. when people become hypothermic they get a false sense of warmth and will take of their clothes, rapidly killing themselves. He was screwed.
    • macfanboi, on 10/12/2007, -28/+92RIP

      PS- I know this is the internet, but please enough of the a$$hole comments.
    • blueorder, on 10/12/2007, -11/+77My thoughts and prayers are with Kati, their children and family

      May he rest in peace.
    • mtxe, on 10/12/2007, -77/+9Sux
      but i cant say its a surprise
    • Nydas, on 10/26/2007, -128/+20DezzNuts & Crass22 are correct. Stuff like this happens everyday. Sure they could have gone about saying it in a nicer way, but to digg them down for telling the truth is stupid.
    • Nydas, on 10/26/2007, -103/+14DeezNuts & Crass22 are correct. Stuff like this happens everyday. Sure they could have gone about saying it in a nicer way, but to digg them down for telling the truth is stupid.
    • snypa, on 10/12/2007, -32/+25R.I.P.
    • AlexMarar, on 10/12/2007, -7/+36CNN confirms that he is dead

      http://www.cnn.com (under breaking news)
    • Crass22, on 10/12/2007, -133/+12Also for a man who is supposed to be some type of technology guru, and I am sure he had atleast some cash to through around, WHY THE HELL HE DIDNT HAVE A GPS UNIT IN HIS CAR leaves me clueless. If he had one of thoes nifty TomTom machiens or whatever he would have never gotten lost in the first place.
    • dclowd9901, on 10/12/2007, -37/+87I feel sick. I feel like I can't even digg this article. I feel like it's disrespectful to the weight of the situation.
    • skyshock21, on 10/12/2007, -25/+123I hate to abuse the comment system, but in this case I think it's justified...

      Does anyone know of a way to set up a charity fund or something for his wife and kids? I don't know what their finances are like, but I'm sure being this close to the holiday season there's a lot of people that would like to help them in any way they can.
    • slsanity, on 10/19/2007, -11/+178I first encountered James on TechTV, he was one of my favorite personalities. Whenever I loaded up a cnet review I always crossed my fingers it would be James. I feel like we lost an icon.
    • appetite, on 10/12/2007, -13/+77Maybe the coverage led to finding his family or maybe it didn't. If it did, I'm glad about that.

      But I can't help but feeling manipulated by the media in this whole story. I feel grief right now that I wouldn't feel if this story wasn't covered out of proportion because it got ratings for news outlets. I had never heard of James Kim before but now I am depressed about his death. People do go missing all the time, and the choices of news outlets to cover some and not others are completely motivated by ratings. I fear the day when we have to be completely cynical and emotionally numb over serious human stories because events like this have turned into a good business model for the media companies.

      Overall, this really sucks.
    • pipdip, on 10/12/2007, -9/+15It's currently breaking news on MSNBC.

      RIP James
    • coolian, on 10/12/2007, -13/+56I just got a lump in my throat.

      RIP, James.
    • huyhuy, on 10/26/2007, -147/+5Hate to say this...but...

      I TOLD YOU GUYS SO! lol

      shouldnt wander alone!
    • glock22ownr, on 10/26/2007, -86/+8@ _Caboose:

      "Anyway, I hope he's alright"

      Uhm... he's dead! RTFA lol
    • mongrel, on 10/12/2007, -18/+83If you're looking for people who need your money, there are plenty of charitable foundations still around for victims of Katrina, for a start. James was well-to-do, and unlike countless other survivors left around the world, his family's hole won't be filled with cash.

      RIP
    • twinklyJesus, on 10/12/2007, -18/+95At crass22 and others:

      I don't know how much you think you know about technology, but, I would like to point out:

      Yes, James Kim was a tech expert. He may or may not have had GPS.

      NEWS FLASH: GPS does not work everywhere. For example, North of Boston, along the coast, in many coastal areas, satellite coverage is "spotty" at best.

      Technology is not the end-all-be-all solution. Sometimes, no matter how well you plan, the reality of the situation can overload the best planning. He had extra clothing, food, fire, and water. They ran out. It doesn't mean he wasn't smart or didn't use available tech. Sometimes it's just not enough.

      You are just using someone's misfortune to point out their "failings" and how you would've done it better, because you are so ***** much smarter than James. Well, the reality is, you are probably bloated tech-nerds, about two donuts from a heart attack and in the same situation (providing you actually got off your ass and went outside) your entire family would probably have died by now, so STFU and stop making snide, snarky comments.

      FOADAH
    • shosterman, on 10/12/2007, -46/+14Does typing "Rest in Peace" really consume so much of your time that it must be condensed? "RIP" changes a sentimental statement into a shortcut for blithe unconcern.

      Just something that's always bothered me.
    • peterfry, on 10/12/2007, -17/+7Oregon State Police -- Update: Search for James Kim Ends; Searches Located Him Deceased

      http://www.flashalert.net/news.html?id=1002
    • da_bradler, on 10/12/2007, -24/+21Wow I think this might be the biggest downer ever I was really hoping this story would turn out that they just wanted to get away for another week and forgot to tell someone.

      How does something like this happen? did they not have a cell phone? how could they get so badly stuck? did they hit the ditch? couldn't he have just followed the cars tracks to walk back to the highway, why didn't they...

      really awful story thank god his wife and kids survived.
    • SAOSiN, on 10/12/2007, -42/+11Someone get the guy from the 4400 or the girl from Heroes or somebody!!! He gave his life for his wife and two beautiful kids....he doesn't deserve this... :'(
    • NyteStarNyne, on 10/12/2007, -27/+50As I was browsing the comments I noticed a lot of people's condolences were being dugg down. Come on guys, I know you're more mature than that. This is not the time for Digg-Down games...
    • jeffreym, on 10/26/2007, -72/+13Could someone show George Bush where Kim was found?

      And leave him there?






    • tyho, on 10/12/2007, -5/+33My heart goes out to his family. Poor kids having to grow up w/o their dad. I was praying for a happy ending but it's not to be.
    • Al3x, on 10/12/2007, -14/+2http://www.ktvu.com/news/10472234/detail.html
    • Al3x, on 10/12/2007, -17/+3http://www.ktvu.com/news/10472234/detail.html
    • jakeAmadela, on 10/12/2007, -15/+25it is confirmed.

      this is really sad. I am from Asia and Im surely going to miss James. I mean, he is one of the reason why I'm now into the world of tech.

      RIP James.
    • CharlesDarwin, on 10/12/2007, -20/+2@BearOwned If I laughed at that, does that mean I'm going to hell?
    • jus1haz2, on 10/12/2007, -13/+26Thats really sad but let this be a lesson to people that if you are lost stay put.
    • tyho, on 10/12/2007, -17/+3..
    • imcompa, on 10/12/2007, -32/+9ROFL at deez nuttz.

      I'm going to go pray for him, oh wait, there is no God.

      Sure it's a tragedy. I wanted them to find him alive, but he's dead now. Good Game.

      I think I'm going to write a program that posts every obituary and missing person on digg.
    • aletoledo, on 10/12/2007, -15/+4the publicity didn't help at all. The helicopter that found the family was a private one hired by the family.

      I have to agree that its surprising peoples reaction here. they digg down any comment of reason? they dig down any comment of his death? what fantasy world are you people in, he's been missing in a freezing climate for days, of course he died.
    • crash013, on 10/12/2007, -9/+25If only we could use digg like this for all missing people. Then maybe more effort will be made into helping them.
    • Nichevo, on 10/12/2007, -5/+32@twinklyJesus

      GPS does work everywhere. I have spent some time in the far north and subarctic regions of Canada. My handheld unit only had problem when under heavy canopy. DGPS is the one that has limited coverage.

      I am going to go out on a limb here and say that technology may very well be to blame. I have watched many people follow their gadgets blindly. I hope he had a much better reason, but if he thought he could take a shortcut through the bush because it looked "shorter" by map, I wouldn't be terribly surprised.

      That said it is important to note the silver lining here. His mistakes will hopefully educate many people.

      #1) Stay together
      If you have to leave I think that if you have alright clothing it's OK to walk 20 miles in those temperatures. Even jeans, a fall jacket, and something light to cover your ears/head will be fine, you'd probably overheat if you are battling snowdrifts. The key is that you can't stop, you must go until you reach shelter.

      #2) If you do leave the group for some compelling reason stay out of the bush.
      After all the time I have spent in the bush I still dread the thought of even going a mile through it in crappy conditions. Some bush is so terrible that even an indian guide could get lost in under 100 yards without a compass. Although from the pictures the terrain looked quite tame, It is still a good general rule.
    • miamilaw, on 10/12/2007, -23/+9and suck on Deez Nutz, DeezNutz420. Welcome to my block list. bastard. so many diggers have known james through his work on various tech shows. his daughters are beautiful. he was a strong and caring father. he's from the bay area, the mecca of techdom. so, that's why we care about him. he was almost like part of our family or a close friend and we wanted to know every update.

      so, go keep digging stories that demonize muslims, boast how lib the "media" is, how truly righteous evangelicals are, how privileged the brown man is and articles arguing why the police and the executive should have increased, unchecked powers. moron.

      and don't give me, "I'm a Marine! I fight for you freedoms! I'm a 6 year veteran, ***** sucker.

      SPC J. Lopez (E-4)
    • maiku00, on 10/12/2007, -3/+54his last act was a selfless and brave one. he died doing all he could to save his wife and daughters. class act man. Rest in Peace.
    • CanceledCzech, on 10/12/2007, -6/+40@DeezNutz420

      Congratulations, sir, for I believe you have the most buried comment I have ever seen.
    • chicksdigme, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12My deepest sympathy goes to the Kim family. These two girls will grow up without a dad. How very sad...
    • buzzedlightyear, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16James i'm positive is/would be happy though that his family has been found and are perfectly ok, i'm sure thats what he'd first ask about if we was found alive and most concerned about.
      rest in peace.
    • jetfuel, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8This story was one I really hoped would turn out good. Now I just feel sick. Rest in peace, and my condolences to the family.
    • metasin, on 10/12/2007, -7/+35why are some people being such dicks about this story? did you assholes ever consider that kevin rose, one of the founders of this website, used to work with mr. kim and it's very likely that they were still friends/acquaintances? if you had a popular website wouldn't you do everything within your power to spread the word and hopefully help your friend out? gee, you must've been sooo inconvenienced by having to skip through 4 or 5 stories. if you're not into the story, digg it down, *****. there's no need for the moronic comments. what the ***** is wrong with some of you???
      RIP
    • waremaster, on 11/10/2007, -10/+24.@DeezNutz420

      I won’t even give you the respect of calling you sir. You are an ***** and I truly wish there was a way to ban you from this site permanently. James Kim may he rest in peace was an acquaintance and probably a friend of one or more of the founders of this site. And out of respect to them you should not be making your uncalled for statements.

      That said.

      My heart goes out to all of the family and friends of James.

      Tom
    • tagawa, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Your heroic self-sacrifice is a shining example to us all.
    • KyleGoetz, on 10/12/2007, -11/+5@DeezNutz420:
      That's gotta be some kinda ***** record 743 diggs down in an hour. That's faster than a lot of stories get dugg up.
    • skyshock21, on 10/12/2007, -8/+7As a follow up to my question about a possible charity fund... there's now a PayPal link on their site http://www.jamesandkati.com

      I also submitted a separate entry in the hopes that it might help them - http://www.digg.com/tech_news/Make_donations_to_the_family_of_James_Kim_here
    • Brak710101, on 10/12/2007, -7/+7In response to the GPS comments above me...

      Yes, GPS works everywhere, absolutely everywhere unless something is above you is blocking singal from the sky.

      At the North Pole? Signal.
      South pole? Signal.
      Random place in Boston? Signal.

      The GPS systems uses a web of triangulating groups of satellites, not one place on earth is out of its reach. No where.

      --

      R.I.P. James. :(
    • twinklyJesus, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3@ Nichevo:

      Good for you, but you are wrong. GPS doesn't work everywhere. I have experienced it FIRSTHAND. Not just on one or one type of GPS. North of Boston, near Ipswich MA, and the other places, with the receiver in plain view of the sky, I could not get GPS data. When I verified the problem I was told that this is a common problem in these areas. "GPS doesn't work everywhere, all the time."

      In mountanous areas, with tall trees blocking the lateral access to the sky, it is distinctly possible a GPS would fail to get triangulation. RTFAs about the terrain he was traveling through. I'm sure in polar regions, with flat terrain, and no vertical obstructions for MILES, GPS may work great, but for James, and others like myself, I've seen situations where it fails.

    • molobolo, on 10/19/2007, -7/+22My Grandma also died today, thus making it the worst day in my life so far. :(
    • shark615, on 10/12/2007, -7/+10First off RIP.

      Secondly GPS works EVERYWHERE outside of cities for the obvious reason, even then you can get a signal. There are no "blind" spots like there are with radio, even in mountainous terrain unless you are standing beneath a rock the angles work out. I have even taken mine hiking in heavily forested areads and it worked fine under trees.

      If it can work in the deepest darkest depths of the southern ocean it can work in Boston. If you can see the sky it will work. The majority of the time if a GPS unit isn;t working it is either buggered or the user doesn't have a clue.
    • DoMaGe, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5I hope James does not have Internet access wherever he is now... it would suck to have to read many of the comments people are leaving about his decisions.

      I pray I am never in that situation with my family and have to make (any) decision after being lost for almost a week, after running my car out of gas, battery out of juice, burning all the tires, and down to 2 jars of baby food... because I just might not be thinking rationally either.
    • TNHitokiri, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2I would say RIP but I dont believe in an afterlife, so my condolences go to his family..

      btw, almost 1000 comments! must be a new record.. its killing my firefox tho..
    • dolemite5005, on 10/12/2007, -7/+9And over 1,000 -diggs for DeezNutz420's comment. I think anytime your comment is buried >1,000 times should result in an automatic burial of ones self in real life.
    • DeezNutz420, on 10/12/2007, -11/+4holy ***** thats a lot of digg downs lol. sorry to anyone who was offend but I just didnt see why this guy was getting so much attention when this happens to people all the time. and If anyone i knew went missing they wouldnt have looked half as much and probably would just give up after a day or two. my bad for offending anyone
    • TheIguana, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3When I first saw this come up on the front page I was just completely speechless. I just could not believe that he had actually passed. All I know is that we have collectively lost a great person in the technology journalism field and with that in mind I can hardly imagine what his family are going though right now. My heart goes out to his wife, family and children. Peacefully rest James.

      Iain
    • DharmaTurtle, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4His kids are going to have the ***** Christmas ever. Please donate, people.
      http://www.jamesandkati.com/

      And remember that sometimes bad things happen to good people.
    • Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8This is so ***** sad, I cried, yes that's right, I shed a few tears. It's a times like this that I'm glad I believe in God and heaven. Rest in peace my friend, you were a good kid.
    • XZanatos, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4@skyshock21

      We should first find out if Mr Kim has life insurance. I shall miss him as well as most everyone else here, but lets not overreact. If he planned ahead as well as he programmed then his family is well take care of allready.
    • Providence, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5@DeezNutz420

      I've been looking for an excuse to put you on my Block list for a while now. You're a constant source of negativity and crap. Now I have my reason.

      Blocked. This guy never contributes to Digg in a positive manner. Ever. Just check his history.

      Everyone should block him.
    • AttackKitty47, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Just a lesson to learn from this:

      Number one tip for survival in the wilderness:

      DO NOT WANDER AWAY FROM THE CAR (assuming there is one). Your chances of being found are much greater than your chances of finding help.
    • TheReport, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1"DeezNuts & Crass22 are correct. Stuff like this happens everyday. Sure they could have gone about saying it in a nicer way, but to digg them down for telling the truth is stupid"

      Sure its the truth I agree, but at this point they are just saying it to be assholes. Show some ***** compassion
    • TheReport, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2"I have to agree that its surprising peoples reaction here. they digg down any comment of reason? they dig down any comment of his death? what fantasy world are you people in, he's been missing in a freezing climate for days, of course he died."

      You cynical assholes that post on here dont get it do you? Open your ***** heart and realize you condescending pricks are not the key holders to all things rationale we all know the chances of his survival were slim but that dosent make you the king of observation motivating you to come to a thread and pretend like we dont know ***** and you know everything. The matter at hand is James Kim has been found and will be dearly missed. Feel some compassion for his loss and his families loss. Grow the ***** up and stop being a douche.
    • burke, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3I think DeezNutz has set the record for most dugg down comment ever. Care to push it further?
    • Pile, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1One thing that is probably a fact... if he had a GPS it would have worked where he was at. If there were anything blocking the sky, he could have moved a very short distance to get a signal. The people claiming a GPS may not have worked don't know what they're talking about.

      It's really sad this guy died, but if anything it isn't a bad idea to analyze the situation and learn from it. CNet was famous for reviewing and critiquing issues and I see no reason to apply the same standards to their own staff and the choices made.

      If the guy didn't have a GPS, then it's just plain stupid. It could be possible the GPS gave bad routing information, which many of them, especially Garmin's are notorous for doing - sometimes the most direct route may end up being on the most treacherous roads.

      In any case, it's really ironic that there are probably ten thousand tech gadgets that CNet has done stories on that could have saved this guy's life. It's still very sad, but let's not get so morose that we can't identify the possibility that the situation could have been different.
    • Mirag3, on 10/30/2007, -3/+2Great guy - loved him on techtv. Rest in peace.
    • ShrimpCrackers, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Lets take action now to prevent this from happening again!

      A a free survival guide wiki has been created,in remembrance of James Kim, with the goal of becoming a condensed, free, 20 page printable emergency survival guide you could just throw into your glove compartment. Simple knowledge like what fauna is edible would have saved James Kim's life. He wouldn't have had to watch his kids go as hungry and may have been able to stay longer.

      Thousands of Americans die of exposure every year. If this project saves a few lives, it would be worth it. Please help compile this guys. Its a worthy effort to help increase the chances of survival.

      http://survivalguide.wetpaint.com
    • RomulusX86, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4@deeznutz
      way to be the most hated digger
    • sicc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0sad stuff, what a hero he is!
    • ThreeDee912, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@DeezNutz420
      Most buried comment ever?
    • chewy5000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i think he meant unbelievable as in extraordinary
  • LordHalo, on 11/07/2007, -68/+3oh boy
  • poorbusker, on 11/07/2007, -42/+38They said they found him face down..doesn't sound good:(
    • DeezNutz420, on 10/12/2007, -88/+4"hey said they found him face down..doesn't sound good:("

      no ***** sherlock, usually when someone is found face down it isnt good news.
    • 10poundbrown, on 10/12/2007, -198/+5deez nuts is my hero, ***** that Kim guy, he was a dumbass and ***** happens.

      oh yeah, and btw, thanks for digging me down bitches

      ZOMG!!!!!!!!!!! HE SMELLS LIKE BIGFOOT'S DICK!!!

      block me, giggles.
    • soopafly, on 10/12/2007, -20/+4DeezNuts and 10pound.

      I guess they're right that weed isn't harmful. But tell me why you're both so stupid?
    • numb401, on 10/12/2007, -14/+2Finally, a good reason to break in my ignore button :)
    • SirBryce, on 10/12/2007, -3/+27Submitter getting dugg down on his own story, classic.

      He was simply providing updated news.
  • Egotrippin, on 10/12/2007, -116/+15Good to hear they found him, I hope he is ok. This dudes will to live and intelligence is amazing. Leaving a trail for officials to find him if something went wrong, and his sacrifice for his family is unbelievable.
    • zybch, on 10/19/2007, -34/+149I'm sorry, but you have to be joking right?
      Not meaning to rip on the guy but he did everything wrong from not notifying friends about their exact planned travel route, leaving the car, not simply walking back along the road he drove in on etc.
      Now I'm real sorry that James possibly/probably has not survived, but to say he did intelligent things during his ordeal is just flat out wrong.

      If any positive thing can be drawn from this sad story it is that thanks to the huge publicity around it, a lot more people will now know the correct things to do if they ever get into a similar situation.
      Hopefully that will save lives in the long run.
    • bryguy000, on 10/12/2007, -28/+32Hey, I want him to live as much as most, but saying that he was totally ingenious for leaving clues after dropping off into a deep/steep canyon where he doesn't have the strength to get out of doesn't make him the smartest guy in my book.

      He should have spent those first couple of days getting their car back down the road they turned onto by 'accident'. Light vehicles can be helped a ton with some branches placed down on the road over snow or mud.

      They shouldn't have gotten off of the main hi-way anyway.
    • jcdickerson, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14I hate to agree with the critical comments to your post, but James was human, he made mistakes, and while they did some very smart things to survive, leaving the family and not following the road was not a smart move on his part (not to say that I wouldn't have done the same to try and save my family). I agree that the one bright spot here is the publicity to what happened may give people the context and tools to make better (life-saving) decisions in the future.
    • sstidman, on 10/12/2007, -4/+22@bryguy000

      While I generally agree with your sentiment, be careful about making presumptions about the stupidity of his actions. We don't know (and will probably never know) why he made the decisions he made.

      My guess (and I realize it's completely speculative) is that he saw or heard something off the trail. Maybe he saw smoke, a clearing with a tent, a car, etc. It could be that he hallucinated any of those things. So he may have left the road heading toward what seemed like his best chance of getting help.

      And I think his decision to leave the car was very reasonable. He left his family with the car because he knew it was their best chance of getting rescued. But he himself left the relative safety of the car on the off chance that he could find help. He took a huge risk in order to save his family. After 7 days, what else was he supposed to do?

      We'll never know why he did what he did, but he seems like a hero to me.
    • superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -8/+9After seven days, you stay put just like the first six days, and make sure you have enough signals that can been seen from the air that people will find you. There's pretty much no-where in the US someone will not find you eventually.

      That's the real lesson here, all you people that think it ever sounds reasonable to leave where you are at "even after seven days" need to UNDERSTAND that no, it is not reasonable! There is no good reason, don't do it if it ever happens to you. Stay put and let someone find you.
    • wjglenn, on 10/12/2007, -3/+26Just check out SurvivorMan on the Science channel. He'll get your head right about survival.

      Seriously, the Kim family made some good moves. Leaving the family there to use the car's heat while they could was a good move. So was burning the tires (both for warmth and signaling ability). She's lucky she was nursing, too, as I'm sure it helped prevent dehydration and hunger in the kids.

      James' decision to move off to look for help was I'm sure a heartrending decision. When you're in the moment like that, I'm sure it felt like they would not be discovered. Had he stayed put and they had not been found, I'm sure the same people would be criticizing his decision to stay. Had he made it to find help, you'd also be thinking differently.

      It's easy to criticize the decisions of someone who was in a life threatening situation with his family when you're sitting at your computer. James made a heroic decision. Was it the perfect one? Maybe not. But he was there and he made it. Who are you to criticize?
    • mike17032, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6"That's the real lesson here, all you people that think it ever sounds reasonable to leave where you are at "even after seven days" need to UNDERSTAND that no, it is not reasonable! There is no good reason, don't do it if it ever happens to you. Stay put and let someone find you."

      Wrong. There comes a time when you need to make a choice about saving yourself. He had no way of even knowing for sure if people were looking for them. He took the risk to try and save his family. There are plenty of examples of people that wouldnt have survived if they had stayed put.

      As to why he left the road, hypothermia can make you see and do lots of weird things. He definatly made his share of mistakes, but leaving the car to try and find help for his family wasent one of them.
    • B111, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4@zybch

      Your faith in humanity is hopelessly optimistic.

      And yes this is a real tragedy. Monday morning quarterbacking doesn't really do much good though.
    • succubuskiller, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5I for one would burn anything and everything around me to get some attention. Yes I know it was snowing out but I am sure once you get a fire going you can dry up some wet branches or something that will eventually catch fire.

      Note to self: Pack lighter in car

      Terribly sad story, condolences to the family.
    • slaystench, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3What a horrible ordeal. The cold weather most probably made him delirious, no one would take off their clothing if they were thinking clearly.
  • Qubous, on 10/12/2007, -21/+6Ya, condition unknown and lying face down is not a good sign.
  • mlock2k, on 10/12/2007, -23/+17 dammit this sucks RIP James Kim you will be missed
  • mrmontrose, on 10/12/2007, -37/+13Doesn't mean he is dead
  • mrmontrose, on 10/12/2007, -14/+5Who knows pray for the best
  • rediculous, on 10/15/2007, -33/+31This report makes NO claim that JK is dead. He could be passed out. They may be able to revive him. At least the hunt is over.
    • synaesthesia, on 10/12/2007, -11/+11Especially if the worst thing threatening his life was hunger/exposure. Both of them are (i'd imagine) rather slow deaths, so assuming they got to him in time its entirely possible that he was too weak to move but still far from death.
    • fclose, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4Well if he is dead, at least he died as good of a death as you can have.
      Searching for help for his family, incredible amount of honor in that.

      you will be missed though.
  • gophernut, on 10/12/2007, -17/+4I hope he's find, but it doesn't look too good if he's face down. Lets just hope he has a little more in him
  • ChileanGoD, on 10/19/2007, -20/+132Helicopter 1 Satellite 0
    • digitalhen, on 10/12/2007, -28/+3Great attitude mate
    • dilema, on 10/12/2007, -31/+5Either way, he obviously has friends in *high places*
    • drutest, on 10/19/2007, -9/+26Being the father of 2 small children about the same age as James kids I probably would have done the same thing. I'm sure he knew the risks he just wanted attempt something so that he at least made an attempt to help his wife and kids . Any parent probably would do the same thing in such desperate situations. I hope his kids know or are told how much of a hero their father was.
      God bless James his family.
    • superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -14/+9You would have committed suicide by nature, helping your family how exactly?

      That's what leaving the shelter of the car was. He in no way had the proper clothing to be out wandering around like that.

      Digg me down, and kill someone else. It's your choice. Only by making it clear just how bad a choice this really was will there be some good from this senseless and tragic death.
  • Corizzle, on 10/12/2007, -14/+5Doesn't sound too good, lets hope for the best
  • synaesthesia, on 10/12/2007, -26/+5"Body" indicates a dead person, something which the article makes no mention of.

    Quit hyping a man's *possible* death to make your e-penis bigger...
  • digital, on 10/12/2007, -28/+8Why is there two stories of this on the front page?

    Answer: Idiots


    -But this one is more accurate.
  • fleetskeet, on 10/12/2007, -35/+3Was he naked?
  • decruncher, on 10/12/2007, -28/+19CBS5.com reports "San Francisco missing father James Kim has been reportedly found alive in the Oregon wilderness, according to media outlets in Oregon."
    http://cbs5.com/
    • McGrude, on 10/12/2007, -18/+1great news!
    • blinkcowz182, on 10/12/2007, -7/+7They removed the "alive" like many of the other news sites...(crosses fingers)
    • fanzhango, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2it say his condition is unkown...
  • LustHog, on 10/12/2007, -9/+13Thank you for resubmitting with accurate headline
  • LDanix, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3Press Conference link!

    http://www.cnettv.com/?live=111991
  • The_Dude, on 10/12/2007, -10/+22If he was alive it would have been made immediately known.
    • armbar, on 11/07/2007, -9/+4Well, he was spotted from a helicopter. I imagine we'll get an update whenever a paramedic has a chance to check pulse, revive, etc. as necessary.
    • m3mn0n, on 11/07/2007, -6/+3are you an idiot? HE IS DEAD.

      RIP James Kim

      I remember watching you on Tech TV, you did a fantastic job. Your work on CNET is very valuable as well and I'm sure it has helped many people in their lives.

      You died a hero.
  • thesoze, on 10/12/2007, -54/+7should have done more research on the route...IT IS FREAKIN WINTER!

    now it cost him his life....
    • u8myfoood, on 10/12/2007, -12/+8ok... so you are telling me when ever you go on a trip, you buy 20 different maps and analyze ever segment of every road along the way?
      accidents happen, and this one is quite unfortunate.
    • superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Hell yes. I buy those state specific DeLorme topo/road maps before any trip, especially if I'm taking side roads. I take a lot of back country trips to remote areas by car and I have carefully examined the route ahead of time, and of course have the maps with me as well so I can see what I'm doing when I'm there and if a road will really pan out or not. And I do pre-route planning with Google maps or the like (can't beat satellite views for terrain understanding).

      The thing I can't fault him much for is not telling anyone exactly what route he was taking - he did say the general area he'd be traveling through, and the destination. I mean it's not like all of use have not suddenly had the urge to take side roads - but again that urge should be backed up by a proper understanding of where you are going.
  • zone2oo0, on 10/12/2007, -21/+0lol......they are pissing you guys off, and it lookd like its working.
  • Poopoopants, on 11/04/2007, -9/+9Oh no! I can't believe it. I hope by some miracle everything is ok. He was a great guy.
  • grnerd, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3Damnit, they said the medivac helicopter took off, and then they said it didnt' I hate breaking news
  • AnniKat12, on 10/12/2007, -13/+0This is one of those things I will believe when more than one source is reporting it....
    • ArnoldTPants, on 10/12/2007, -7/+8turn on your tv. its on every news channel.
  • scribebox, on 10/12/2007, -289/+10he's dead .. but he left with TWO lighters, TWO pairs of pants.. i could have survived..


    dare i say? DARWIN AT WORK!!!
    • chembro84, on 10/12/2007, -31/+15Go to hell.
    • Ryetronics, on 10/12/2007, -32/+15Somehow you'd find a way to burn yourself to death.

      Oh, and you're an idiot.
    • Phocion55, on 10/12/2007, -18/+84The only difference is.....no one would waste their time looking for you.
    • manual, on 10/12/2007, -31/+27Well I got 2 lighters and 2 pairs of pants I'm willing to donate so you can prove your survival techniques....

      I mean,,, seriously,,, what kind of heartless ***** are you to say that *****?... this man was trying to save his wife and kids,,, and you come with that *****....

      I'm not even a believer in the afterlife,,, but I still think there is a special place in hell for assholes like you....

      Pompous ***** like you don't deserve to be alive... ***** YOU!
    • bozack, on 10/12/2007, -24/+11insensitive, yes.

      wrong, not really.

      honestly, everyone should learn a lesson from the mistakes made here because there were many.

      not being a smart ass, just sincerely hoping this never happens to anyone else.
    • manual, on 10/12/2007, -31/+102And you do realize that at this very moment,,, there is a wife crying for her lost husband,,, and kids missing there papa?

      You wanna see Darwin at work?,,, you will. Because when you are a heartless, self-centered, pompous ***** who will never be able to love another more than you love yourself,,, you will find that, even though there are many stupid girls,,, you will never find one that is stupid enough to pro-create with your selfish ass....

      Once more,,, ***** YOU! And I hope you have nightmares for the ***** you spout here... NEVER speak ill of the dead,,, especially of the dead who were good people.... Seriously,,, you make me wish we were face to face,,, so I could break all your teeth,, and shove an egg-beater up your ass....

      ***** YOU!!!!!
    • halik, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21Actually the odds of anyone surviving with the stuff he had are 1 out of 50 at best. Odds are he lost consciousness the first night and died the next day from hypothermia.

      Leaving the road was the lapse of judgement that killed him.
    • bozack, on 10/12/2007, -15/+2i can't believe i'm getting dugg down, i figured i'd be ignored at best.

      anyways - halik is 100% correct.
    • bozack, on 10/12/2007, -9/+0good call. digg up manual instead. his choice of expletives and capitalization are exactly what an offensive rant needs.
    • transeunte, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2I'm just as upset as the next guy: he was young, smart and had a family to look after. But people reactin' like manual here seem to have some serious anger management issues.

      And no, unless you're close to him or his relatives, I don't think okay to go ***** crazy over Internet trolling.
    • timla, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6I am sorry it turned out this way, I was pulling for him.

      His choices were questionable, but we were not there and do not know what condition mental or physical he was in.

      The one thing that did occur to me. They lit the tires on fire for warmth, but why stop there, even the wettest trees will burn with enough heat (Digging under the snow into the underbrush might find drier timber), and tires do not burn just a little or for such a short time. Build a bon-fire.

      Even without this, why did no one see the smoke? (Maybee the tires were used by the time they started looking, but still)


    • superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2It doesn't matter how many layers of cotton you have on if you get wet...

      It is odd he couldn't have made a fire, I figure there was some kind of accident where he fell in that canyon.
    • bozack, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0timla, suggesting that something could have been done better is this case is not being received well ... and i think manual is trolling the thread.

      again. 100% correct though.
    • chungthomas, on 10/12/2007, -4/+61.) To people who thinks Darwin is at work here. As much as Mr. Darwin loves his theory, I don't think he wants/needs such a mishap to prove his theory. Furthermore, his theory is well supported, the scientific community don't need James Kim nor anybody dead for that reason. So could you stop that non-sense please?

      2.) To people who call him stupid. Remember, it wasn't the stupidity that cost his life, it was the coldness. In fact HE WAS NEVER STUPID! He was brave, he went out there and looked for help. And as a man (or any supporting person in the family) that is the right thing to do. So he will get my salute for his bravery!

      In fact, people who argue for the above needs to think. We are told to not go out there and look for help is because we THINK that someone else can find us quickly. Often undermining the difficulties involved especially in such a big area. Many animals do go out and look for some kind of help or resource in situations. So us, human, being primates, naturally react the same. It is our survival instinct. At the end of the day, it is our primal instinct that wins, not our knowledge or whatever the book, tv or other fellow digg commenters taught us. It is our hard earned primal instinct that came from millions of years of experience that would lead our decision. And that is what I think Darwin meant at the first place. Not your stupid theory about Darwin sifting out stupid people.

      To give you an example, Emperor Penguins, after mating, would go out and look for food. And that journey would involve thousands of miles of traveling. Is that stupid? NO, because they have to, because it is their survival instinct. Because that is what evolution is all about, survival. No penguin, would sit there and wait for some other penguins to feed them. So why should human, who is also an animal?

      My point here is, James Kim was not stupid. His death is not Darwin's fault nor any of that matter. If you ask James to make the choice again, I am pretty sure he would make the same choice, over and over again. Because that is his instinct. And kudos for this guy to have the guts and will to stick to his instinct. Even though he didn't make it in the end, his braveness is definitely something which all of us should take in as a lesson.

      RIP, James Kim
    • manual, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1*****,,, ***** you! You think I need help because of how I react to some pompous prick speaking ill of a man, who may or may not have made mistakes, but tried his best to save his wife and children???

      I don't even know much about this man,,, but he died trying to save his family,,, so I don't need to know anything else. Any man,,, and I mean ANY man, who can view a story like this and make some ***** comment like that is a dirtbag in my books...

      Whatever James Kim did,,, right or wrong,,, he ventured out because he loved his wife and children... and I don't care if the man didn't succeed, he went out because he loved his family more than himself,,, something I doubt you will ever feel,,, *****...

      Don't worry, *****,,, you will have plenty of company in the cesspool that is your destiny....
  • LDanix, on 10/12/2007, -19/+3Deez, you're an ASS.
  • Jocose, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14traditionally when someone is found dead the news media doesn't not get the information until AFTER the family is notified. That is probably happening right now. If he was alive I think we would have already heard about it. I hope that's not the case though.
  • budyhead, on 10/12/2007, -13/+27There is a tear in my eye right now....
    • kidblast, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14I hear ya. This has really shaken everyone up. I can't imagine my family going through what they did. He's a heroic man for trying to save his loved ones. My heart goes out to him and his family.
    • afghanwhiggle, on 10/12/2007, -4/+25Me too, I worked with James at Tech TV, and even though I didn't know him past being an acquaintance, it's hitting close to home.

      It's really hard not to be upset a little bit too...why were you off the road James? Why did you get out of the car? We'll never know...

      Condolences to his family and the people who loved him...RIP James.

  • darkamster07, on 10/12/2007, -8/+8I just heard on FOX that they either found a dead body and are waiting to confirm that it is James Kim, or that they found him and are going to release whether he is alive or not. All of this will be announced in a press conference shortly, I hope he is OK
    • darkamster07, on 10/12/2007, -9/+6me again, FOX briefing just happened, cops looked really shook up. They say that it is true, he is dead, I can't believe it...
  • hiscores, on 10/12/2007, -11/+1KGW is reporting that the Medevac Helicopter has lifted off, which they're touting as good news. [edit: now KGW is saying that was incorrect info. Argh.]
  • o0joshua0o, on 10/12/2007, -11/+1Let's not jump to the conclusion that he's dead. He could be napping, in shock, comatose, or a host of other things. Hopefully he can recover with medical attention.
    • ArnoldTPants, on 10/12/2007, -20/+12I, too, like to nap face down in the snow.
  • criticman, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1Found, no mention of condition yet: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/12/06/BAKIM06.DTL
  • jav1231, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3KTVU: "There was no immediate word on his condition."
  • newfoundnoise82, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1briefing about to happen
  • EvilDoer, on 10/12/2007, -29/+3Walk it off
  • duhblow7, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3MSNBC.com had a breaking news headline that read:

    Body of missing Oregon man may have been found.

    I refreshed the site a few minutes later and it was updated to:

    Man who went missing in Oregon may have been found.

    Let's hope MSNBC know's something we don't.
  • timjbart, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17It's a disaster that a family road trip can go so horribly wrong.
  • dilema, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2CNN says body was found but doesnt say if it is *alive*.
  • apok, on 10/12/2007, -13/+8He's dead. They just said.
  • night141, on 10/12/2007, -26/+1There is an exact same story RIGHT BELOW THIS ONE about Kim, geez guys get a grip.
  • decruncher, on 10/18/2007, -6/+78James Kim has died.

    A valiant effort my good man. RIP
  • afosterw, on 10/12/2007, -14/+2dead
  • EbowUK, on 10/12/2007, -22/+10What the ***** is going on with this story?

    I mean the "reporting" of it here.

    The guy has friends here, a family, and people who wish the best for him, and yet the smacktards that submit these news articles go for the sensationalist headline before anyone actually confirms anything. Hint: being able to tell a chick in a bar you were the first to post to Digg about the guy's death is not more likely to get you laid.

    Show some ***** respect, read the articles before you submit them, and hope nobody has a video camera with them when you try to jump between two buildings because you think it's cool.

    Idiots!

    /rant
  • chrisgeleven, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17He's dead. They just said it on KTVU. Real sad :(
  • grnerd, on 10/12/2007, -8/+6Official word. Man I am sad.
  • mrdctaylor, on 10/12/2007, -6/+8Damn. Yeh, the officer at the news conference just confirmed that he was found dead. :-(
  • diggguru, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3cnn.com pipeline video text
    "Searchers have found the body of missing father James Kim in the Oregon wilderness."
  • Song0330, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Just confirmed live at the news conference - his body was recovered at 12:03.
  • robusteza, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3He's dead.
  • xeres, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3live: http://www.kgw.com/sharedcontent/VideoPlayer/videoPlayer.php?vidId=57406&live=yes

    :( :( :(
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