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- MarkusX, on 05/14/2009, -1/+19Hopefully they have ironed out those floating point calculation issues of the Pentiums they'll use.
- AngelBunny, on 05/15/2009, -0/+11from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larrabee_%28GPU%29
"Graphs show how many 1 GHz Larrabee cores are required to maintain 60 FPS at 1600x1200 resolution in several popular games. Roughly 25 cores are required for Gears of War with no antialiasing, 25 cores for F.E.A.R with 4x antialiasing, and 10 cores for Half-Life 2: Episode 2 with 4x antialiasing."
"Each Larrabee core contains a 512-bit vector processing unit"
In other words don't expect this to blow your games away. Sure it will run crysis but nvidia and ati will blow this away. What this gpu is special in is cpu aided encoding. Having a 512 unit is like saying, "hi mr 512bit RSA. Want me to decrypt you? Yes you do." ... er, it makes video encoding and decryption / encryption a breeze especially any big num math. - SimCutie, on 05/15/2009, -3/+13It will never succeed as graphic processor. 2T flops (32 core) performance at 2010 is not so impressive. Competitors are selling GPU of comparable performance right now. They are preparing two times more impressive products later in this year and next year.
Most of all, Intel is infamous for making poor graphic driver software. Don't even think of any significant market share in graphic card market before they regain credibility in this regard.
Larrabee will be mainly used as a computational engine (like desktop supercomputer ), not graphic engine. - JshMRsn, on 05/15/2009, -0/+7As a 3D graphics engineer, I am extremely excited about this!
(not that it's coming later than may have been expected, but just the concept in general) - Narishma, on 05/15/2009, -0/+6If it supports OpenGL it should work on XP.
- adgrou, on 05/15/2009, -1/+6It would seem that Larrabee will hit the market first for the professional market, with a consumer oriented version not being released until 2010. Even more disappointing for some consumers is news that Larrabee may not be supported under good old Windows XP, but rather just Windows Vista and Windows 7. For Microsoft’s sake, let’s hope by 2010 that Windows XP support will not matter anymore at least.
- AlekNovi, on 05/15/2009, -0/+5That makes sense, as Larrabee would be directx 11. Windows xp doesn't support past directx 9.
- DarkShroud, on 05/15/2009, -3/+7Looks like ATI will get a few more video card purchases out of me now.
- kmoed, on 05/15/2009, -1/+5Just in time to take over the vaporware top honors now that DNF is gone.
- Elranzer, on 05/15/2009, -0/+3Graphics cards that support DirectX10 and DX11 still work in XP, it's just DX10 and above doesn't work. The only thing keeping support back would be a driver.
- kmoed, on 05/15/2009, -0/+3AMD is all over the low end market, Intel does not stand a chance.
- AngelBunny, on 05/15/2009, -0/+3In case anyone is curious http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larrabee_%28GPU%29
I must be living under a rock. I never heard about this until now. - lostinseganet, on 05/15/2009, -0/+2As a gamer I am excited too :)
- SteveMax, on 05/15/2009, -1/+3You do realize that Intel is the absolute leader in graphics market share, right?
The impressive part of Larrabee (for me at least) is its CPU-like programmability. It can do conditionals and breaches as well as a Pentium, while each of those can take milisseconds on a Radeon or GeForce. This means it's MUCH more interesting as a computing platform; and not even mentioning the amount of compilers and libraries already available.
Maybe it won't do much for gamers, but as a scientist I'm wetting my pants with the idea. Complex calculations should see a huge performance gain over current workstation machines, without even mentioning the easy expandability. - AngelBunny, on 05/15/2009, -0/+2I'm confused. How will windows xp not support it? I can understand not supporting the graphics card aspect of the chip but shouldn't the cpu part at least work?
forgive my ignorance please - alent1234, on 05/15/2009, -2/+4intel never cared about the high end graphics market. larabee will kill ATI's and Nvidia's low end market. wouldn't be surprised if AMD/ATI and NVIDIA end up merging because of this
- HairyPoter, on 05/15/2009, -0/+2intel once told it would be delivering 80 cores in 5 years... time passed and I do not see them doing that...
- h0ly, on 05/17/2009, -0/+1I see it as a first step towards affordable real-time raytracing on the market... who knows what they'll come up with in the future? Maybe a lot of complex effects like subsurface scattering and radiosity will be possible to do compute in real-time at 60 FPS?
- AngelBunny, on 05/15/2009, -0/+1it will be interesting when it hits osx 10.6 and directx 11.
hopefully this will help accel bignum math too, but maybe that is a dream. - BluesFan, on 05/15/2009, -0/+1I want to see some games take advantage of the current generation of cards first.My 3850 is still doing me good.
- trevorh, on 05/16/2009, -0/+1Larrabee seems really interesting to me. Even though it probably will not have the pure power of some higher end GPUs if you look at how it performs rasterization for graphics you can see where the cpu like flexibility is a real advantage.
http://www.ddj.com/hpc-high-performance-computing/ ... - mrBitch, on 05/15/2009, -0/+1@ kmoed, RE: " ... AMD is all over the low end market, Intel does not stand a chance."
Correct, and ATI is also clobbering nvidia at the low to middle range of the market.
@ alent, RE: " ... intel's larabee will kill ATI's and Nvidia's low end market."
You mean just like intel's itanium chip killed AMD? Just like intel's first 64 bit "core" cpu failure killed AMD?
It took intel 3 attempts to finally build their core2 64 bit designs... I'm pretty certain that "larabee" will require a few more iterations before intel come out with something that works as well as their marketing dept says it will... - dronex, on 05/15/2009, -0/+1One more player in the graphics chip playground...
- MrInfallible, on 05/15/2009, -1/+1There will be scene drivers for xp even if they don't support it
- winry, on 05/15/2009, -1/+1if you've ever made pdf-checks scripts you have to hate dot matrix printers
- nextTopModel, on 05/15/2009, -4/+1EU fines Intel $1.45 billion for sales tactics
The European Union fined Intel Corp. a record euro1.06 billion ($1.44 billion) on Wednesday, ordering the world's biggest computer chip maker to stop illegal sales tactics that shut out its Silicon Valley rival AMD.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090513/ap_on_bi_ge/eu ... - vsujohn2, on 05/15/2009, -8/+1H1N1
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