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- geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10And a really nice addition to office computers with the vPro system; now new office buildings can be built with less infrastructure specifically tailored to phone networks, and can simply do computer-based telephony, potentially saving millions. The card is a win all the way around.
Now Intel, how soon can you get this integrated into a southbridge? - pairanoyd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+81. Price?
2. Linux? - gorkish, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5If you think VoIP adds 20% network overhead you are insane.
G711 (uncompressed telephone audio) is 64kbps per active call and G729 is 8Kbps per active call.
If your network is 100mbps and built on even moderately decent equipment (ie some bit of QoS and/or VLAN support) then you can deploy VoIP in a business with no serious network bandwidth concerns. As for physical infrastructure, most phones are available with built-in two port switches that handle QoS for the connected computer, so even if you have an old network without advanced L2 controls you can still do it without having to severely rethink your infrastructure. - chad78, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yeah, and we see how well they are doing. There is obviously a market for this stuff. You can buy USB Skype phones at Walmart, buy they are pretty expensive (more so than a landline-type phone) and the wireless ones are very expensive (compared to a comparable landline phone). And, if you want to / have to switch back to landline - the USB phones are useless. With this - you already have the phone - and if you ditch VoIP - you haven't lost the use of the phone - just the card.
- Grimdotdotdot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"No need to buy a special phone, just buy a special PCI card!"
"How much?"
"We're not telling." - Numbski, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Erm....this has been around for years. Google "zaptel" or "Wildcard FXP". No digg.
http://www.digit-networks.com
http://www.digium.com - groogs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3If you buy skype hardware, and skype goes under, your hardware is useless. If you buy generic SIP hardware, and your SIP provider goes under, you switch to one of the other thousands of SIP/IAX/H323 providers.
- MatttK, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3My mom won't use Skype because she can't figure out how to use the computer. If I put this card in for her and plugged in a cordless phone, she wouldn't have to touch the computer (assuming picking up the phone and dialing will directly connect you to the software, etc.). This is a great idea.
- Saintlink, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Interesting development. If I didn't already depend solely on Skype and my cell phone I'd purchase one of these. Regardless, it is nice to see such technology for those of us that do have nice, expensive landline phones already.
- nonokiaboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"VOIPOPCI" ?
- CharlesV, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It seems like for the average user, a USB headset / handset would be easier to install, not to mention inexpensive (though I didn't see any pricing information on this card).
Now what would be neat would be if this was somethinglike the vonage / whoever boxes where yes, you can plug in a phone directly to make calls, but you could also connect from the card to a phone jack and have your whole house's analog system set up for VoIP dialing. - groogs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This is by no means the first. There are many companies that offer PCI fxo/fxs cards (fxo is for connecting to the phone network, fxs is for connecting to a phone) for a long time. See http://www.voipsupply.com/index.php?cPath=99_103 or http://voipstore.atacomm.com/Shops/Browse.aspx/27934028032-27950407168.htm.
Often ethernet devices are used for fxs ports, since they can just attach on the network anywhere and make an analog phone into a voip phone (see http://www.voipsupply.com/index.php?cPath=96). We have a couple sipura SPA-2000s at our office for a cordless phone and our conference room phone.
Of coruse, the better solution to all of this is to cut out the analog phones altogether, and get a hardware voip phone (http://www.voipsupply.com/index.php?cPath=95) that just plugs into ethernet. These phones usually use SIP and like any sip device, can connect to any sip provider.
Skype is the black sheep of voip. Yeah, nice service and all.. but it's totally incompatible with everything else. They've encrypted and obfuscated the protocol, so basically the only way to use it at this point is to have a windows PC using a flakey PCI card or USB adapter to connect to a real phone. See http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-skype for some info on skype - demonicume, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2i'll buy one if it's cheap and install it on my network backup machine. less space less mess. hell i can even run my home security system thru this thing and monitor it from my lap top remotely. the security company wants to charge me 300 dollar to access my security system wirelessly. the charge for cell phone alerts and the equipment to send them...
- Guspaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Huh? Why does anybody care about this? More convienient hardware has existed for years. They're called ATAs. They're tiny little boxes with an ethernet jack on one side and a RJ11 jack on the other. They let you turn any phone into a VoIP phone, anywhere, without a PC. So they can do everything that a PC can (since that PC needs a network connection to do this anyhow), but without the PC. And as I said, they've been available for years. I'd much rather have an ATA than one of these PCI cards.
Sipura seems to be a popular brand. - geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The idea of building it as a PCI Express 1x part isn't a bandwidth consideration, it's a platform consideration; Intel is trying to push PCI Express as the legitimate successor to both PCI _and_ AGP, and the article points out if they really want to sell this to everyone, they need to get peripheral manufacturers (including themselves) onboard with PCI Express cards (and thusly phasing out PCI cards).
My only guess as to why this card is a PCI card is so that current PCs can take advantage of them; as most computers today have both PCI and PCI Express busses, the legacy bus is the easier one to use. However, I would definitely expect Intel to ship a PCI Express counterpart and possibly integrate it into their next generation vPro platform. - Dhalgren, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Yeah, Zaptel has been doing this for quite some time. If you're looking for an external solution, you can buy a Sipura device. Both these are probably cheaper than an Intel card and both work with Asterisk on Linux.
- geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1ooopse
- sms021, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1it all comes back to mobility and hooking up the entire house. are you going to get a PC just to run your telephone, Get a MG3 from http://www.VoiceStick.com and boom your set. plus what is Intel going to charge to use the card, is it open for any service or just their recommended providers?
- anarchy99, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1didnt this used to be called a modem
i know if i connect a phone to a modem i knw how to make it show up as a input device
the quality is lacking though but that could be the aceint modem i use or the phone - osc1882, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1here's what I find funny.
It looks like a modem.
We started with pluging a phone line into a PCI card to get on the internet,
Now we plug a phone into a PCI card to talk on the phone over the internet. - pairanoyd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Who wants their own phone company, cheap?
I personally own a full blown 10,000 line exchange. T1 & T3 ready, it will power and handle TEN THOUSAND phones. It's a full blown system ready to rock and roll, came out an corporate/industrial environment. Just add 40vdc and T1/3 lines and you're good to go..
If you are interested check my profile for my website, the info is there. Disregard any prices you see. Make me an offer. I would like to find it a home. - JimXugle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1So... It's an FXS? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_exchange_station
- unbrooken007, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Why would u need a PCI Express x1? PCI is just fine its not like you are moving around a whole lot of data from a telephone. Wouldn't PCI Express x1 be a little bit of an overkill. Plus not a whole lot of computers that are more than say a year or two old have PCI Express x1 anyways. PCI is definitely the way to go./
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0But are they going to include free wire-tapping, or is that an add-on?
- Fly1m1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1My Vonage V-1000 box was cheap & has worked perfectly for almost 3 years. No need to rely on a computer being up to work.
- DEADB33F, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0That's all very nice, but I'm still waiting for someone to come up with some software which turns my bluetooth enabled mobile phone into a VoIP phone.
So calling people from home on my mobile would cost almost nothing.
And when the cost of bandwidth for mobile phones comes down I can use VoIP on the move too, completely cutting out the mobile operators call charges. - rainierez, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1This won't make it easier for phone systems to be put on a network. The network infrastructure will still need to be built to handle this. The increased bandwidth over the network of 20% of a company using the phone would probably bring down half the data networks at a company. This is only geared toward the consumer level. they have there dialogic cards for Enterprise solutions


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