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- nclbbs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19If anything, you'll see clock speeds lowering. The main thrust in CPU design now is doing more work per clock cycle rather than increasing the number of cycles per second.
- borninda818, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11http://Intel.youaremighty.com/
- bobbknight, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10This is old news.
- Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8This is starting to sound like the razor industry.
- DigitalDud, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Yeah, 10,000 support people, not engineers.
- cyssero, on 04/18/2009, -0/+3AcidBath,
Intel have stopped using HT for now. It was not a very efficient technology at all (IMO at least), and Intel went back to the Pentium 3's architecture to shape Core 2 Duo and Core Quad. In a strange turn of events though, Intel will be using HT (simultaneous threads) in the generation of CPU's after Conroe, Merom and Woodcrest. - bluemist, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5If it has HT then 2 x 4 x 2 = 16
- tHePeOPle, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Intel reminds me of Gillette. Intel adds cores to the chip like Gillette adds blades to the razor. Brilliant! Four cores!? Oh! Maybe they'll call it the "Intel Quatro" or maybe the "Intel Mach 4". I can't wait for the clean, close computing experience.
- Comatose51, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@blumist: The Clovertown won't have HT. HT ended with the Dempsey, which is not a Core architecture and part of the P4 family. Going forward HT is dead.
@stalk: HT and multicore is like night and day. HT only helps during context switch. It's basically a mechanism to split certain registers between two threads such that when the processor switches between the threads it won't have to flush its registers and reload. - cyssero, on 04/18/2009, -3/+5There are plenty of notebooks with Core 2 Duo processors in them at the moment. Most Core Duo notebooks are easily upgraded to the Merom CPU too - some Dell's just need a BIOS update.
I am not sure where you are looking, but there are heaps of C2Duo notebooks out at the moment. Notebooks will make the transition to Core Quad once heat dissapation and power can be managed efficiently. They will initially start in higher end notebooks, and by about Q2-Q3 next year you will start to see them in a wider range of models. - geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If adding more cores to a computer and using/not using HTT sounds like the razor industry, you're on the wrong website. Cores, unlike razorblades, can dramatically increase performance in applications by adding them, as long as the applications are aware of those cores and capable of using them.
Then again, I also love my triple bladed razor.. - size13, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Nope. It'll only show 8 cores. 2 x 4 physical cores.
- geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2They're "Extreme Edition" models, Intel plants to market them starting at $999, but the prices will fall as they produce more Conroe cores and have enough excess volume to build the units. The good news is though that the Core 2 Extreme Edition (based on one Conroe core) will drop in price.
Unless you've been waiting for Kentsfield/Clovertown (and for most of us, that means saving for it), you'll probably want to wait 6 months or so and buy them when they're cheaper. - Stalks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I found HT made multi-tasking a lot more responsive on my system. I had an Intel Pentium4 2.8 and an AMD 3200+, using similar components, the AMD would win in any benchmark tests, but alt+tabbing out of DAoC was noticeably smoother using the Intel. YMMV.
But how much difference you would notice between 4 real CPU's and an extra 4 HT CPU's is up for debate. - JAGUART, on 10/12/2007, -7/+9You're gonna need that power to push six-ton Vista through the mud.
- DigitalDud, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3They were unreleased prototypes.
- wildmXranat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Having just bought the E6600 Core 2, I must say that i hope its compatible with this socket and motherboard. Make it so , Intel.
- cyssero, on 04/18/2009, -0/+2It will be. Prototype Core Quad CPU's are used in standard Conroe compatibile boards. A particular Gigabyte board even claims "Quad Core" compatibility as a feature. Nearly all good boards should support this though, as they are all based on the i975 chipset from Intel. At the worst you may need a bios update.
- crbaker, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Tom's Hardware ran performance stats on the quad-core weeks ago. What's up with this post.
- FRAGaLOT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2yeah this isn't news this is kina old.. plus Intel has been getting back it's market share since the Core 2 Duo has been out being the current performance king. Even older is AMD creating 4-core CPUs as well.
- themattman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3How much will these cost :$
- jonnyeh, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Also, it's important to realize that it is often difficult to use all the available cores at the same time. If you are into gaming, the game your playing has o be designed with multi-threading in mind, which is very difficult. Even if you are using an app that is optimized for multiple cores, you start to run into IO and memory bottlenecks. Just imagine 4 or even 8 cores trying to read/write from memory, or even the hard drive. You can't just go to 80 cores and assume your machine will be 80 times faster.
Amdahl's law: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl's_law - cyssero, on 04/18/2009, -0/+1@timing
I see now :) Maybe they were quick enough to edit their comment and I missed that. Whoops. - squirpy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm on the verge of buying a Mac Pro, but thinking I should wait until they implement quad-core processors because they sound like a major leap forward. Good plan? Any guesstimates on when Apple will start putting the quad-core into Mac Pros?
- AcidBath, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Great time to be a geek right now. As soon as get the money from the bone morrow and kideny I sold, I am SO going to put together a dual CPU with quad HT cores with a quad SLI graphics system.
What does that end up showing as in Windows? 16 cores? - mzwaterski, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What about performing calculations on vectors and matrices is hard to multi-thread?
- sweetnjguy29, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I call B.S. Right now, I am running at least 50 processes on my computer. It would be so much better if that load were divided up among 4 cores...or 8 cores...or 64 cores.
- Rathmore, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What I can't believe is that other diggers are busy gripping about how old a digg is (age of a story doesn't drive digging, interest does) instead of digging up new and interesting stories.
- Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I can see it now. Apple releases Leopard and upgrades the MacBook Pro to a Core 2 Duo and thousands flock online to scoop one up.
... and then next week, Apple shoves in a quad-core.
I would cry... so very much. - fartingbob, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2So we started out with clock speed being the main selling point (pushed pretty much exclusively by intel), then AMD began showing the world that a lower clock speed can do just as much, and often more. Now multi-core is the new GHz. Add more and more cores, even though developers are still getting to grips with using 2 cores effeciently, they now have to start thinking about 4 cores. There comes a point where more cores wont be of any use for 99% of users.
- thomasprebble, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4Does this mean CPU speeds will start getting faster than 3.0ghz? We've been hovering at that speed for quite some time.
- BWhaler, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Speaking of old, is Apple just sitting out this round of updates? Or perhaps, are they trying to fix their quality issues in the first generation of Intel products?
I am looking forward to upgrading my PowerBook to a revised MacBook Pro, but the timing on Apple's end is just perplexing at this point. - timing, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1@daza: I don't know if _MACBOOK_ pro's do or do not ship with a Core 2 Duo chip. I don't mind. But Blizzwatch talks about Macbooks, while you talk about Dell Pc's. And yeah, those Dells might have a Core 2 Duo ofcourse.
- GatorLCA, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Are you ***** kidding me....where the hell were you last year when this news broke...I can't believe the people on Digg even Dugg this article so much, we've known about the Kentsfield just as long as the Conroe
- shamitpatel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I guess you havent seen vista yet
- bleachlizard, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Ya know... with the fact that a P4 takes a lot to cool it down... and the 2Duo takes even more... I would work on perfecting my technique of cooling the dang chips before I come out with something that will run hotter than them all combined. It's like M$ comin out with Vista before doin something with XP64. It takes brains... work out the issues before you come up with something new... "let's just ignore it and move on..."
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1haha@ everyone that just bought a core duo, you should have waited , but doesnt it always seem that way? i bet apple will start useing them to
- shamitpatel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Intel just fired 10,000 employees. where are they going to get the resources for something like this!!!
- bs101, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Moron, he was making a joke and he didn't need you correcting him.
- ioncewasaspy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1@ acidbath
Morrow- a type of snowboard, a town in Georgia, the last name of a senator.
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http://www.alibaba.com/catalog/10893799/Red_Kideny_Beans.html - chickenselects, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2probably 1500-2000 for base model
then again i could be completely wrong. - rancidpony, on 10/12/2007, -4/+02006? 2007? The article says 1st quarter 2007.
- kidcodea, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2OLD
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -11/+3Is this why the macbook pros haven't see an update to core duo 2s?
Skipping straight to 4 cores?
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