23 Comments
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16While this is a good chip, their site ***** SUCKS.
- diggfinity, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13I was under the impression for a while now that technology has truly gone much further than chip-makers are letting on. Things are being bled slowly onto the market, gradually over time, so consumers and software engineers can catch up. Also, if Intel went from 2-core to 24-core within six months, think about how much revenue they would lose out on with the in-between cores not being released.
- TWEAK, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11You're exactly right - DDR-3 will help improve things. I don't like linking spamming so I will quote our CeBIT 2007 coverage about DDR-3.
"DDR-3 is much different to DDR-2 in that more calculations can be performed per clock cycle. DDR-3 will also be able to read and write data at the same time. TEAM made the comparison of a CB radio – with DDR-2 and previous memory, you needed to wait for someone to finish talking before you start talking back to them but with DDR-3 you could both talk at the same time as each other.
DDR-2 running at 800MHz and DDR-3 running at 800MHz will not provide the same performance numbers – a rough example given to us by TEAM would be that DDR-3 800MHz should be able to provide the same performance as DDR-2 operating at 1066MHz but of course no real-world numbers have been proved yet as Intel are still validating and testing DDR-3 modules." - sucks, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13not as good as the "deerpond" chipset, but a close second
- maninblac1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I'm gonna say it straight out, intel has got to do something with their northbridge, cause what they have really isn't cutting it. For example, the P965 has more advanced technology than the 975X, but it's still slower. You get an out of order memory fetcher and lower power consumption, but you still can't beat your big brother, and you can't run SLI or crossfire.
I think intel has hit a wall on the northbridge and really has to innovate something new, like the did for core 2. Or more exactly, get rid of the gd memory controller and give me 7 cores and a controller on the CPU. I know they've got it on the road map, but do we really have to wait 3-5 years to finally see it. - HollisJamison, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7The true performance should come when they can put some DDR3 memory in this sucker with the new processors.
- Phyltre, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7When you say interrogated, do you mean integrated?
Because that would make you not crazy. - maninblac1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7@tweak
The problem lies in the fact that right now, the best DDR3 modules still have a CAS of 6 and 7 cycles. You just killed your frequency gain there, ignoring the full duplex transmission of course. Intel needs to get off their butt and get an integrated controller, then we won't need DDR3. - lobofanina, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Phyltre Thanks for the correction, I'm not crazy. (Nothing sounds crazier than saying that though)
- lobofanina, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Maninblac1 which company is in the performance lead right now? How does the future look for AMD compared to Intel? Which company already has a interrogated controller, but don't forget about question 1.? Intel has a trump card in interrogated controllers that they can play when ever they want to.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Works and looks perfectly fine on latest Firefox with AdBlock Plus installed.
- AReallyGoodName, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Hi tweak,
On my browser (IE6) your site doesn't look right unless i have the IE window maximised.
eg. open an IE6 window, not maximised and then reduce it to about half screen width. The text actually goes over the left hand border and there is no way to read it, even with the scroll bars.
(yes i know i should install firefox but this is a work computer, not mine) - geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The problem with integrated memory controllers is they waste a lot of diespace doing something that locks a chip into a generation. For example, when AMD was struggling to get more performance out of the original Opterons, it was often cited that many applications were memory bound, the DDR memory controller just couldn't keep up with Intel's DDR2 memory controllers. Putting in a new DDR2 controller means respinning their entire CPU core, which can cost hundreds of millions in validation. Leaving the controller on the chipset allows Intel to update the controller without updating the chips, which means when one part of the equation gets old, toss it and get a new one, which is exactly what Intel has always done.
Multichip packaging brings an interesting new idea to the party of having a memory controller (with a really wide bus) connected directly to the CPU core but not losing performance to wire delay going out to the DDR RAM, but I don't believe Intel is there yet either (even though they've demoed a Pentium M processor with a northbridge and voltage controllers on the same package). Intel's decision to stay the course and simply bring out faster RAM seems to be working for them. - YellowBook, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1... and you need AdBlock Plus so that you see the content hidden amongst all the ads
- lucid270, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1There were ads?
/yay adblock - maninblac1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@lobofania
You have to realize that i'm a die-hard intel fan. And i know full well that R&D and fab wize AMD doesn't hold a candle to intel. I'm merely saying, if intel really wants to seperate the gap, then that's what they need to do. I'm critical of intel, because i like intel, and i know they can do better than this. - TWEAK, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5Why?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1It loads very slowly (before it was FPed). And the whole thing is inundated with ads. Also, my browser crashed. Try to fix that :).
- sucks, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4no im ***** SUCKS
- xShad0w, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2THis is so effing random for digg, it will hit up much better sites in a few days, digged down for spam, cant believe crap like this makes the front page
- danknerd, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1lol
- maninblac1, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1Lol
- DforSpiD, on 10/12/2007, -10/+1Why does it suck?
For crack money


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