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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15FTV: "It's so new...It's Blue!" (at approx. 1:52)
What the hell is that supposed to mean? I didn't know blue was the new code word for new. He might as well have just said, "Here's a pointless line to make me sound informed. Now I'm sticking my shoe up my rectum!" - sakuraz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14hey, now now.
If Nintendo uses old technologies it's "proven"
If Sony uses old technolovies it's just "old"? - rhfb, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12The answer is yes for those wondering.
- thefinger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I am hoping that downloads will eventually put an end to this *****
- vertigoblue, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7quicktime / itunes, or VLC
- unloud, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7It's going sllooowww now. I'll upload it to youtube when the video is done downloading.
- stinkipete, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6@ uberlord:
They also said that CD's were gonna be scratch resistant too.
I remember on either Tomorrow's World or Blue Peter or something before CD's were in wide use, they had a sample one and did all sortsa stuff to it, like spread jam on it and put it in a toaster, and then put it in a player and it still worked. Nowadays it's obviously fake, but the claims were made. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6http://blue.imation.com/intotheblue/blue_podcast.m4v
- i440, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7The most interesting part is when they apply a nice and thick DRM layer on top of the data layer justtt before putting the plastic on the outside. It even has logos for each respective company!!!
XD - unloud, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I'm with you. That was a cheesy and badly placed line.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5And yes, I understand that both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray use blue lasers. But he makes no mention of that. He just says "It's so new...It's Blue!"
- poseitom, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4BD-R, BD-RE, HD-DVD-R, HD-DVD-RW (X4W12R24) here we go again… lol
- louse101, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I've converted this video and made it available on Google Video as the Imation website apparently sucks.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1250257575160328105&hl=en
Please Digg this link to the top of this page so others can actually watch the damn thing instead of spending 45 minutes buffering 3 and a half seconds. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3It's loading VERY slowly for me. I want to see it!
- uberlord, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@thefinger
Yah, I hope so =)
Actually I was expecting the fourth one to be holographic storage, but then again, he did say optical... - superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That was annoying to me as well, you saw about five seconds total footage of actual production. Other than that is was really just a commercial for new HD formats and hardly "mind blowing".
- uberlord, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7The thing I like about blu-ray is the scratch-resistant coating, the extra storage won't be used for much. A double-layer HD-DVD is more than enough for 7 full length HD movies with some extras to boot, but that won't do any good once it's all scratched up.
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Blu-ray = Same technology as HD-DVD - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Hooray for DownloadThemAll
From 50k/sec to 1.2MB/sec - robbak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Well, you would expect it to be more fragile, but thre are some things in its favor. I'd expect it to have much better error correction (remember, though, you can drill a 1/8" hole through a CD and still read all the data!), and better physical protection to the data (top) layer (don't they have a thick plastic layer, as opposed to just a laquer.
Surface scratches should have no effect: a recent investigation showed that the best thing to do with a scratched cd was draw a line over the scratch with a fine-tipped felt pen! - flyguy79, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Almost inaccurate, as you don't really get to see how they're made. All they say is that it's the only facility in the world that can make all 4 formats (BD-R, BD-E, HD DVD R, HD DVD RW). The video took about 45 minutes to load - hit pause and go get something to eat.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3That wasn't nearly as good as I was expecting it to be.
On a side note, I'm curious how sensitive these discs are going to be. Is one small hairline scratch going to render them useless? As they said in the video, if the grooves in the discs were thread, and you were to unravel them, it would stretch 17 miles. With that kind of density, I would imagine any impurity would break it. - JDiZZle300Z, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2No wonder they're havinf such a hard time getting the blue diodes for the blu-ray drives, they were theoretically impossible to make. That shoulda been their first hint.
- renman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1HD-DVD's data is in the center, so it's protected and Blu-Ray has a really hard coating to protect the data layer (even though its near the surface)
- PcChip, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1why are you people going throug all the trouble of converting it, etc?
Direct link to video: http://www.imation.com/intotheblue/into_the_blue.swf
Downloaded at 1400 KB/s for me - gmiller, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's a shame so many people digg without watching first. The video doesn't show any of the manufacturing process, let alone "the whole process".
- Arnold22, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Whoa So since I still use cassetes to I need to see this?
- geekylady, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0that's because you have to download the whole podcast for all the manufacturing footage. the streaming version doesn't get that far.
- erichcr80, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Mind blowing? Contrary to what the description says, this is mostly a guy spouting acronyms and an middle-school introduction to visible light wavelengths. If you're really interested in optical disk production you're going to have to look elsewhere.
- poseitom, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Well i guess cd's/dvd's are bound to disappear, this technology is to be replaced by better data storage media… within 5 or 10 years people will go like "oh euh… a hd-dvd-rw…aren't that those round blinking things…" and regardless of the past we put our petabyte-stick in the latest 3D-HD-TV-RW-X56turbo.
- nicepants, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Sub Rant()
I HATE when people use the phrase "digital quality" (as in this video). That makes absolutely no sense. Just because it's digital, doesn't mean that when it's converted back to analog it will have better quality than an analog storage medium. I can encode an mp3 at 16kbps and it will sound a LOT worse than the record it was recorded from.
End sub() - renman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0And the direct link to the full length 14 minute podcast:
http://blue.imation.com/intotheblue/blue_podcast.m4v - marksy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2what a terrible website
- binkyhuckaback, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1"It's so new...It's Blue!"
I recall a washing powder commercial some years ago (when I used to watch TV) which had the slogan "It's new, it's blue". Maybe it's a reference to that. - uberlord, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3A complaint about his cheesy comment was DEFINENTLY worth a reply.
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Hypocryticism is a virtue - Drizzit, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1Uberlord you're an idiot.
Blu-Ray's media layer exists closer to the surface than HD-DVD. So if the Blu-Ray disk gets scratched it'd done with.
HD-DVD's big advantage is that you can buy one DVD and it plays in your low def dvd player and your high def player. I dont see any of the Blu-Ray disc packs for movies containing both.
I really give a rats arse which format is better technically. I care only about it's worth to the consumer. - robbak, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0Hmm. Doesn't make you too confident when there are obvious errors. Their description of pits and lands is just wrong!
Firstly, the mirror is on the wrong side: the pits and lands are mirrored, and the light shines through from the unadorned side. When the laser beam shines on a pit, half of it is reflected by the base of the pit, and half by the surrounding surface. The pit is 1/4 wavelength deep, which throws that part of the reflection 180 deg out of phase: partially canceling out the light reflected by the surface.
He is right in suggesting that the bits are encoded as the presence or absence of a change (pit-to-land or land-to-pit) but 'scattering' of the light has nothing to do with it. - rhfb, on 10/12/2007, -14/+4So what plays .m4v files? Will VLC work?
- mlock2k, on 10/12/2007, -20/+3so blue ray = old technology Hd-dvd= new technology
Hd-dvd seems a little better of the 2 for hd video but who knows if they can make hd dvds hold more data it may work out. But if blue-ray disks take four hours to burn 36gigs what have we gained ?
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