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- 93TILL503, on 02/12/2008, -17/+117HD DVD DIED OF TYPHOID. EVERYONE IN YOUR PARTY HAS DIED. MANY WAGONS FAIL TO MAKE IT ALL THE WAY TO OREGON. DO YOU WANT TO WRITE YOUR EPITAPH?
- withremote, on 02/12/2008, -22/+109HD DVD is going away soon.
- jmeskimen, on 02/12/2008, -8/+58Amazon emailed me today with over 100 HD-DVDs 50% off.
- yabos, on 02/12/2008, -2/+34They're trying to unload their end of life stock on you.
- trogdor282, on 02/12/2008, -19/+50Too bad. You can't beat cheaper players, no region coding and players that actually play all the discs. This is a win for the studios and nobody else.
- 1jaxstate1, on 02/12/2008, -20/+50Let's just open up the pipes and get the HD downloads kicked off. So we can kill off both HD DvD and Blue Ray. That's going to be the true winner.
- RedHawk911, on 02/12/2008, -22/+47But in this case, The better technology actually wins
- wild, on 02/12/2008, -5/+27Surpass how? Because I don't see them taking a significant margin for 5 years+
People just aren't interested right now. - rmw132, on 02/12/2008, -12/+33I was a huge supporter of HD DVD. I own about 25 titles and the 360 addon. But HD DVD's time has clearly come and gone. I hope with the recent announcements of Netflix and Best Buy, for the good of high definition media, HD DVD suspends their campaign and supports Blu-ray in the race for High Definition Media.
Blu-ray 2008. - kingatrock, on 02/12/2008, -3/+23I personally don't care which format wins, I just want a winner so the burners will be cheaper sooner so we can rip our own.
- TomK88, on 02/12/2008, -15/+33It's been over for awhile. It's now just a question of how long it will take Blu-Ray to surpass DVD. I think it could take up to 3 or 4 years.
- wild, on 02/12/2008, -3/+20You won't ever replace physical mediums with digital downloads. They can co-exist, but there will always be a huge contingent, myself included, that don't care for digital distribution.
- kingmanic, on 02/12/2008, -8/+24Both formats were controlled by the media conglomerates. Don't kid yourself about HDDVD.
- snobrder218, on 02/12/2008, -7/+22 While the Best Buy announcement says they will recommend Blu-ray, at least they will continue to carry HD DVD and offer consumers a choice at retail."
"At least"?!?!?! Wow...HD-DVD really needs the change their PR.
"Well...at-least my boxer still is alive....but he's on life support"
GIVE UP ALREADY! Stop confusing consumers. - fantasticFlan, on 02/12/2008, -0/+14"Let's" is fine. It's a contraction of "let us".
- Fallout911, on 02/12/2008, -6/+19I find it amusing that the same ***** sucking idiots that post things like "***** MPAA" are happy about this news.
Complete ***** idiots. - winmywii, on 02/12/2008, -2/+15I just bought a tube TV a few months ago because I couldn't afford anything else.
- spyrochaete, on 02/12/2008, -12/+23Why is blatantninja being dugg down? He's absolutely correct. The Blu-Ray spec is now at 1.1 which has an additional encoder, allowing for picture-in-picture. Early adopters who paid through the nose for the 1.0 spec aren't able to use the extra features on new movies. Sony and Samsung are effectively punishing the people who were most supportive and enthusiastic about the technology.
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/02/11/23 ...
Without those early adopters HD-DVD would have won this war, and they will probably wait until a new standard matures before buying their next player. - bigbadgoat, on 02/12/2008, -13/+25Go ahead, find me a Blu-ray movie that won't play in every blu-ray player.
The movies will always work, now the special features on the other hand, maybe not. - sadatoni, on 02/12/2008, -0/+12Really?
Samsung sued over "defective" first-gen Blu-ray players
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080211-sams ... - SkippyDoorknob, on 02/12/2008, -3/+13I guess you missed Toshiba's giant payoff to Paramount to make them HD-DVD exclusive? You may want to look closer at Microsoft too.
- TheG2, on 02/12/2008, -11/+21Hence the disc (the entire thing) not working in all players. Don't split hairs, he's right, this is a win for the studios and no one else.
- punkyetti, on 02/12/2008, -1/+11You can buy tube tvs that go up to 1080i, I have one sitting in my dorm room right now.
- flashboy131, on 02/12/2008, -1/+11I'm gonna wait, because I have too much money invested in DVD to switch right now... later maybe.
- lukemann, on 02/12/2008, -1/+10You can still buy tube TVs. There are even 480i tvs out there now that have a digital tuner that down converts HD to 480i.
- eryximachus, on 02/12/2008, -6/+151) You really have no idea what you are talking about
2) Toshiba, as a company, has spent far more money bribing supporters than Sony. Sony has merely released the PS3 with blu ray and used the format for their own studio. Sony has had less to do with blu ray than they did with the DVD or especially the audio cd.
3) 1080p content requires a huge amount of bandwidth that will not be available for years or decades to come. I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. - TypeEE, on 02/12/2008, -9/+17sony's players are coming down in price.
- noloveIII, on 02/12/2008, -0/+8never is too long a time frame, however nowhere in the near future will we have downloads only.
- cthellis, on 02/12/2008, -0/+8No, there they're trying to sell you the OVERstock. ;-)
- pigfister, on 02/12/2008, -2/+10The MPAA anti consumer DRM advocates sony, disney and Fox chose blu-ray from the start because of the extra level of anti consumer DRM available with blu-ray BD+ and every ones favourite global price fixing regional coding (neither on hd-dvd) fox publicly announced that no content would ever be released from them until BD+ was finalised and would not use HD-DvD because of the lack of this orwellian DRM that will phone home with profile 2.0 statistical data on your hardware including usage, IP address and unique serial number of the player paving the way for a 1 user licence with media locked to 1 device or account just as sony have done with the PSN release of warhawk.
- trogdor282, on 02/12/2008, -3/+11If you got your hands on the very first VHS player, assuming it was still functional it would have no problem playing any VHS tape ever made. That's how it should be. Just because we're getting used to being shafted doesn't mean it's not an outrage.
- TheVigilante, on 02/12/2008, -4/+12HD DVD is the Ron Paul of the Hi-Def Wars.
- jayhawk88, on 02/12/2008, -3/+11Lol.
"At this point, we're just curious to see how it will all end: after investing so much time, energy, money, and vitriol on this bitter format war, how does Toshiba move forward in a world almost completely dominated by its rival in blue?"
They should probably just ask Sony, they have experience (Beta, Minidisc, Memory Stick) in this area. - TheG2, on 02/12/2008, -1/+8I have a Sony Wega HDTV CRT, its a great TV, none of that native resolution problems so SD looks fine, only problem is it weighs a ton (200+ lbs :().
- diggmc, on 02/12/2008, -4/+11The death of HDDVD reminds me of that Monty Python skit, where the knight has his arms and legs chopped off and refuses to die.... Com'ere I'll bite your leg...
- dvddesign, on 02/12/2008, -1/+8I'm all for it if you're paying for my 8 TB storage solution I'm going to need to hold all my movies in 30Mb AVC with uncompressed audio.
- cthellis, on 02/12/2008, -2/+9...because we were going to win with a format war going on?
We ALL lost when they didn't merge before launch (and there's conjecture as to what third parties were wanting them to duke it out), and--seemingly--they both had the opportunity to get embraced by studios, and were both tossing around scads of money to do so. It was a studio game to begin with. - CheeseheadDave, on 02/12/2008, -0/+7Then how do you explain why DVD burners are so cheap nowadays? Who is DVD's competition?
- Draked, on 02/12/2008, -1/+75 years? I'll take that bet.
- breckinshire, on 02/12/2008, -1/+7There will still be competition between burner manufacturers.
- kcfreels, on 02/12/2008, -1/+7At least it didn't drown trying to cross a river in a caulked up wagon...
- devophl, on 02/12/2008, -2/+8For those of us with HD-DVD players, we'll welcome it. The player still works and if I can get a few more years of use out of it before I buy a Blu-ray player, I'm game. Give me those half priced HD-DVDs.
- Skitals, on 02/12/2008, -3/+9This ending will not make burners cheaper. Without competition, it will be the opposite effect. Go read a Blu-ray forum... fanboys are already whining about where all their BOGO sales have gone. No one didn't see this coming. All the outrageous sales were to triumph over the competition. Without that competition, say bye-bye.
- cthellis, on 02/12/2008, -3/+9It holds more data, it was built more with recordability in mind, it uses the same codecs, it uses a large substrate that could eventually be manipulated is more interesting and economical fashion...
Other than paranoid DRM fears and the region coding that the extremely vast minority of ANYONE has actually cared about in the entire lifespan of DVD players, what about BR is so inferior? - misfit410, on 02/12/2008, -2/+8Not only that they are doing it a SECOND time with Profile 2.0
- BevansDesign, on 02/12/2008, -1/+7I'm waiting for digital downloads. I have no interest in replacing my DVD set with Blu-rays.
HD-DVD may be dead (at least in spirit) but that doesn't mean that Blu-ray will be a success either. - Chewie67, on 02/12/2008, -4/+10Why is everyone so down on technology moving forward? If you buy a 1st gen product -- ANY PRODUCT -- you had better expect that it will become obsolete in a year or less. Doesn't matter what it is. First Generation means Gamma Test (Alpha -> Beta -> Gamma). Let the public play with it, see what works and what doesn't, then improve.
If you want to be the cool kid on the block with the latest, greatest collection of gadgets, you know what you're getting in to. Prepare to upgrade... - blatantninja, on 02/12/2008, -3/+8Enough people that a class action suit has been filed.
- devophl, on 02/12/2008, -1/+6I think the hi-def movie market needs a killer app to get it to surpass DVD. Just a higher picture quality is not going to sell it. I've seen a lot of upconverted DVDs that look pretty good. So hi-def is not going to push people to move to Blu-ray. I think its going to be the integration with the computer and the internet that might do it. But you need a profile 2.0 Blu-ray player which won't be available until the 4th quarter of this year and movie producers are still 2-3 years away from coming up with ideas to use this technology.
The other issue was low cost players. No one, outside of those with a $5000 home theater system are going to spend $400 to $900 for a Blu-ray player right now. HD-DVD already had low cost players but it might take another 2 years to see Blu-ray players as cheap as HD-DVD players are today. That with the wait for profile 2.0 on Blu-ray will delay a lot of movement until probably 2010. I then give it about 2-4 years before Blu-ray starts outselling DVDs. I guess the movie studios could speed this up by just stopping production of DVDs...
So just because Blu-ray won the war doesn't mean that everyone is going to run out and get a Blu-ray player on its current merits. - Ndiggnation, on 02/12/2008, -3/+8I'm just waiting for the final, final, final-final-final nail in the coffin for HD-DVD..
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