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- amrush4th, on 01/28/2008, -5/+102On the next page they predict the sun will come up tomorrow.
- BinaryDelt, on 01/28/2008, -5/+97SCORPION WINS. FATALITY.
- DiscoLando, on 01/28/2008, -4/+65Can we get the ad with the pus filled zits removed please? I'm trying to eat lunch.
- inactive, on 01/28/2008, -26/+67bluray is a better format and its easier to sell
i might even get a ps3 to sit next to my x360 - FredFredrickson, on 01/28/2008, -0/+33But wasn't Sub-Zero the blue one?
- NeoCortex, on 01/28/2008, -2/+29Formatality!
- DaveBG, on 01/28/2008, -8/+31Well we already know that. But i guess it would not hurt to see it from Gartner once more time :)
- isewise, on 01/28/2008, -3/+25HD DVD is planning a super bowl ad see here: http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/28/hd-dvd-ad-to- ... which I think is fine and dandy but a little too late, they should have given the money to Warner or some other studio to try and keep them with HD DVD.
- kingmanic, on 01/28/2008, -2/+22@GerbilSoft :However obviously compressing 1920x1080 to a 50 gig diskis much better then compressing 1920x1080 to a 8.54 gig disk.
- noxcel, on 01/28/2008, -5/+25yes...
- Ryosen, on 01/28/2008, -2/+22That's Gartner for you. Always stating the facts about a month after they become obvious.
- elvenseven, on 01/28/2008, -1/+19Because downloading a 22 GB HD movie is quick and easy.
- otakushark, on 01/28/2008, -1/+19Rarely has "I can't afford it" been said with such pride.
- AlKo, on 01/28/2008, -0/+18Sub-Zero was the blue one but Blu-ray did kinda rip HD-DVD's spine out but cutting off the studios. HD-DVD lost it's backing... (horrible pun intended)
- MScrip, on 01/28/2008, -1/+18K. But everyone else wants an HD optical disc.
- GerbilSoft, on 01/28/2008, -2/+18Blu-ray still uses compression. An uncompressed 1920x1080 frame takes up around 6 MB, which would result in 186 MB/s (encoded at 30 fps). That's around 11.1 GB for a minute of video. Not to mention that no current optical drives support reading anywhere near 186 MB/s.
- altgeeky1, on 01/28/2008, -2/+18>Blu is still trying to figure out what the final spec is going to be two years in.
Interesting point, but there's much to be said for upgrades. What browser or OS have we used that doesn't get or need upgrades?
Sony has set the bar high with the PS3 -- upgrades over the Internet. I doubt ANYONE can get away with selling a BluRay whose firmware can't be easily upgraded (live on the Net or using a ISO disc).
They're already exceeding 25GB thanks to uncompressed multi-channel audio. HD-DVD could have been a contender if they remained in the BluRay forum, and merged their ideas instead of forking. Now consumers got burned by Toshiba and Microsoft arrogance... but at least the way forward is clear sailing! - plizard, on 01/28/2008, -1/+16if you can put up with loud fans during silent parts of movies
- otakushark, on 01/28/2008, -2/+17I'm sure there are still lots of people enjoying their VHS players and all their tapes too. What's your point?
- chris4404, on 01/28/2008, -19/+33While I agree its easier to sell it's hard to argue its a better format. Yes Blu has more storage capacity but what else? HDDVD had standards set right out the gate, Blu is still trying to figure out what the final spec is going to be two years in.
- SpongeBad, on 01/28/2008, -0/+14Not to mention the bit rates on Blu-ray are higher than HD DVD. AVC or VC-1 at 40Mbps is better than the same codecs at 28Mbps. See: http://www.dvdfile.com/index.php?option=com_conten ...
- pr0verbs, on 01/28/2008, -6/+20I wouldn't suggest putting it next to the 360 because it might get console envy. You should just throw the 360 away if you buy a PS3. I have both and I only play one. Mass Effect did make me wipe the dust off the controllers for a small time though.
- kingmanic, on 01/28/2008, -2/+16No matter what you do the amount of data in 50gig > 8.54 gig. No codec is goign to avoid this truism. You can't get good HD content onto a DVD without sacrificing something. Be it artifacts in busy scenes (still common on DVD for SD content) or choppy motion(also semi common), or loss of color depth.
- ausfahrt, on 01/28/2008, -7/+21Yes. No compression, no artifacts. Way better in my experience. And way better sound hands down.
- slaystench, on 01/28/2008, -7/+21And we all know higher capacity doesn't matter, right? /sarcasm
- bigbadgoat, on 01/28/2008, -1/+14no scratch resistant coating on HD-DVD, only blu-ray.
- pr0verbs, on 01/28/2008, -1/+14Funny that the same processor that Toshiba helped develop went into the unit that helped destroy Toshiba's HD format...
- barnett25, on 01/28/2008, -2/+15Let me correct that....
Sony PS3s, Sony Vaios, Sony Cameras, Sony Camcorders, Sony HDTVs, Sony GPS Devices, Sony Car radios, Sony home theaters, Sony cell phones.... - FredFredrickson, on 01/28/2008, -15/+27I'll stick to my DVD's until the cost of HD equipment and HD movies comes down to an affordable level, thanks.
- jstohler, on 01/28/2008, -0/+12Well, my $100 HD DVD player was nice while it was relevant.
- Maciula, on 01/28/2008, -9/+21Resistance is futile. We wish to improve ourselves. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service ours.
- inactive, on 01/28/2008, -6/+18Just so yo know about 95% of Blu-Rays are region free
- inactive, on 01/28/2008, -11/+23I have no reason to support either one.
- kingmanic, on 01/28/2008, -3/+15@Chris4404, @FredFredrickson: They are both technically identical. Capacity and extra interactive features are the only real difference. Arguments about "changing versions" and "DRM" are superfluous because those will either be set soon or functionally the same.
- ibeetle, on 01/28/2008, -2/+14I know what you mean.. those stupid DVD and CD format. They should have stayed with cassettes and diskettes.
- bigbadgoat, on 01/28/2008, -2/+14I don't really understand people. This technology has gotten far cheaper far faster than any previous format. How many years did it take to geta sub-$500 DVD player? How about a sub-$2000 35+ inch TV or sub-$500 DVD burners? For all intents and purposes the technology right now is pretty cheap, its just not cheap enough for you.
- bigbadgoat, on 01/28/2008, -1/+12Because theres now A format instead of TWO. Everyone wins, well... besides HD-DVD early adopters, and Toshiba.
- edrift101, on 01/28/2008, -12/+22...but, I'm still enjoying my DVD player and all my DVDs...
- inactive, on 01/28/2008, -1/+11BLUTALITY
- g0thm0g, on 01/28/2008, -1/+11If you're talking about one of the $100 Toshiba HD-A2's try returning it. Luckily Wal-Mart accepted my return with receipt two days ago. When the customer service rep asked why I was returning it, I said that BluRay won the format war, making the player obsolete. No more questions asked and I got my refund.
- ibeetle, on 01/28/2008, -1/+10When DVD players came out they were $700. DVD's were 30-50 dollars.
Blu-ray Disc players are less than $200 and there are currently over 150 titles under $25 (many under $16)
When did $200 hardware and $25 software become high end unaffordable?
In this day and age of $60 dollar video games and $500 graphic cards and you bitch about the price of Cars on Blu-ray because it is $19.99 instead of $16.99. - EXTER, on 01/28/2008, -3/+12http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/?from=getfire ...
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/186 ... - iDoraemon, on 01/28/2008, -10/+19Whichever of these formats win, we lose. I just want to watch my f'ing movie, bro!
R.I.P. DVD (Or was it rip DVD?) - daybreak, on 01/28/2008, -27/+36More DRM, more expensive, backed by Sony, region coding, thrust on the consumer by movie companies, unfinished profile, why are people celebrating Blu Ray winning again?
- postalblowfish7, on 01/28/2008, -0/+9*psst* the war's over. dispense with the name calling.
- kingmanic, on 01/28/2008, -1/+91- Early adopters always get screwed from everyone who bought a HD DVD to everyone who bought first generation iPods, iPhones, PC's, Macs, etc... Early adopter don't usually care as they are the richer segment of the market who has more money to spend.
2- I was wrong about the ethernet
3- picture in picture is interesting but an odd feature for a movie format
4- There exists blu-ray players that aren't PS3's. - inactive, on 01/28/2008, -1/+9Nobody likes a sore loser.
- Breepee, on 01/28/2008, -0/+8You're dugg down, but it seems that is the way all non-North-Americans (should) see it. In Japan the PS3 supporting BR made the HDDVD irrelevant from the get go and here in Europe I have never even seen an HDDVD advertised player until yesterday, at bottom low prices (to get rid of stock now that BR is going to be it I think).
The 'format war' never took place outside N-America, for the rest of us BR seems to have been the followup to DVD from the beginning. - TheSeptimHeir, on 01/28/2008, -2/+10For the millionth time, Blu-Ray is NOT Sony's format. That being said, Sony DID ensure Blu-Ray's victory with what, in hindsight, was a brilliant marketing move: prepackaging the PS3 with Blu-Ray drives. While their decisions regarding the PS3 hurt them in the video game market (it also hurt video game consumers), it helped secure a format that they do, admittedly, have a large stake in. But Blu-Ray is not an updated Beta-Max or UMD.
- Shakermaker, on 01/28/2008, -2/+10Get Firefox, AdblockPlus, STFU, and GBTW
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