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- inactive, on 10/22/2008, -1/+61It's nice to see tech news on the front page.
- KMartSheriff, on 10/22/2008, -0/+15Dugg just for being tech news on the front page.
- po43292, on 10/22/2008, -1/+11Reminded me of a computer architecture class in college.
- Fixion, on 10/22/2008, -0/+7I was pleasantly surprised by the article, good find.
- maus56, on 10/22/2008, -0/+6Ah, actual tech submissions on Digg...loving it.
- jedthehumanoid, on 10/21/2008, -2/+7nice piece - it stretched my brain a little but it was a good read...
- bipolarruledout, on 10/22/2008, -0/+4I'm not sure Amy Winehouse really cares that much about CPU's.
- bipolarruledout, on 10/22/2008, -0/+4Please. It's not like ZIF sockets haven't been around for over 10 years. This might be an improvement but a technological godsend? And for the record heat sink attachments have improved significantly. Does anyone remember the socket A Athlon? One thing I do have to give intel credit for is that they have always had slightly better socket and heat sink systems than AMD. Of course AMD has never had the volume to be able to innovate quite as much but has smartly chosen to use similar albeit older socket systems as a cost saving measure.
- cdg52, on 10/22/2008, -0/+4It's good to see tech news once again :-)
Great article, can't Digg go back to having stuff like this again? - SwitchXFactor, on 10/22/2008, -0/+4Always good to stretch the brain now and then, isn't it?
- TheGuruStud, on 10/22/2008, -0/+4It's a Core2 with AMD's design (int mem controller, HTT type bus, L3), yes. AMD has out-innovated intel since their inception. It's no secret.
- dungbeetle, on 10/22/2008, -0/+4Yes there are no pins on the Core2 Duo. It's a freaking technological godsend too. It makes it so much safer to install. No all the have to do is change those awful awful heatsink snaps to something a little less evil.
- Junior612, on 10/22/2008, -0/+4I payed more than $1000 USD five years ago for my AMD64 FX-55.
And a year before that I paid $500 USD for my ATi Radeon 9800xt.
So these prices for such wonderful pieces of equipment are very much welcomed. - aurorous, on 10/22/2008, -0/+4just wait for a while. In the meantime there's no software that truly pushes a Q6600 today anyway. You can build a whole system around one of those for just over $500.
- inactive, on 10/22/2008, -0/+3You do not need 'top end rig'.
- chmcarro, on 10/22/2008, -1/+4The thing is, it's not top of the line, it's the cheapest Core i7. My point is that there is a lot of overhead cost outside the CPU.
- passedoutghost, on 10/22/2008, -0/+3No more little pins. Unlike my old P4 processor. I nearly shat myself when I accidentally bent a pin. Good thing you can bend it back.
- SwitchXFactor, on 10/22/2008, -0/+2Please : )
- MacBookForMe, on 10/22/2008, -0/+2but, that hurts sometimes...:)
- GreatDrok, on 10/22/2008, -0/+2I miss the Alpha. That was a real CPU. Assembly was like a high level language and you had so many general purpose registers and didn't have to bugger about with special register types, they were all 64 bit and you could use MVI (like SSE) on them directly. Not to mention the four independent integer pipelines, two FP pipelines (21264) and 1 clock cycle latency. Still, amazing what they have done with the x86 line but seriously....yuck!
- KMartSheriff, on 10/22/2008, -0/+2Have you ever bought computer hardware before? It goes down over time, and is replaced by *GASP* newer hardware. Yes, it costs a bit now but will go drop when it's replaced by something more insane than it.
- SwitchXFactor, on 10/22/2008, -0/+2Amen!
(wait a minute... ) - ethana2, on 10/22/2008, -0/+2I still wish we would have ditched x86 for SPARC, ARM, POWER or something..
Maybe AMD will consider it if they get desperate.. - HappyScrappy, on 10/22/2008, -0/+1It's rather weird to call the 8086 16-bit and the 8088 8-bit. If you do so, you are using the width of the bus to indicate the "bitness" of a processor. By that same measure, Pentium 4 would be considered 128-bit (even the ones that didn't even have 64-bit mode).
- SwitchXFactor, on 10/22/2008, -0/+1Awesome article. Very informative and it inspired me to really read up on Nehalem. I'm glad I've been putting off my PC upgrading for a while, I'll certainly be waiting till this time next year now in anticipation of this platform coming to full fruition.
- InfernoX, on 10/22/2008, -0/+1True enough, and I'd actually expect that the Core i7 chips would outperform some of the more expensive quads, so it might be worth the extra price when it comes down to performance.
- InfernoX, on 10/22/2008, -0/+1Couldn't possibly cost more than $1500-$2000, that's not terribly expensive for a top of the line rig.
- AngelBunny, on 10/22/2008, -0/+1the article is nice but it only covered a small bit about the cpu. the author should have talked about a lot more especially the difference between threads and cores in the hardware and how the i7 utilizes both like graphics cards do and information about how cache is the bottle neck but when programed productively multiple threads can work in sync quite well with eachother without pushing and poping from the ddr mem on the mobo (aka mem fits in the cache which is like 500x to 1,000x times faster for that given task) ....
- ry4nsm1th, on 10/22/2008, -0/+18088 was 16-bit, there were 16-bit registers.
- cherwilco, on 10/22/2008, -3/+4looks like the i7 is really just an improved version of amd's Phenom chip
- GreatDrok, on 10/22/2008, -0/+1I should have said high level in that it was easy. Sure, you had a limited number of instructions (joy!) and so on but the fact that you didn't have to mess about copying data from one register to another type just so you could use a specific instruction (SSE *spit*) made it a real joy to use. You could easily map .S code back to the original C for instance since there was almost a 1 to 1 relationship in many cases. I've done assembly coding on x86 and it is really nasty.
- HappyScrappy, on 10/22/2008, -0/+1Alpha assembly was not like a high level language. It was RISC. Name a high level language where you have to put in explict memory accesses and have to do it in a separate statement from any calculations you make.
Alpha was a fine chip. It definitely influenced the direction of future processors (mostly by being greatly superscalar). - cheez124, on 10/22/2008, -0/+1powerPC sucked, its only good for gaming consoles, and ive never heard of an ARM chip over 600mhz
- univerio, on 10/22/2008, -0/+1Long read, but very well worth the time.
- randumbusername, on 10/22/2008, -0/+1it hard waiting for the am3 boards to come out. i saw a 9950 125w processor on newegg for under 200. im tempted to just plow down the money for a am2 board and buy the new am3 two months from now.
- TheMachine1, on 10/22/2008, -0/+1Bake that cake with the waste heat from your CPU.
- dasmonki, on 10/22/2008, -0/+1Very informative article, I felt it explained everything well enough that I could completely understand it.
- inactive, on 10/22/2008, -0/+1Why do you need one?
- dungbeetle, on 10/22/2008, -0/+1I prefer the way the Socket A's heatsink was over the "do battle in a tight case" approach of the Core2's heatsink connector.
- dantheman003, on 10/22/2008, -0/+1very informative....lost parts but most parts i understood
- aurorous, on 10/22/2008, -0/+1it wa a 16 bit processor with an 8 bit external connection. Just like the 386SX was a 32 bit chip with a 16 bit external connection.
- bipolarruledout, on 10/22/2008, -0/+1Admittedly the alpha was far and away a better and FASTER CPU for it's time..... it's too bad they weren't able to keep up with x86 innovations. I'm just glad to see that AMD ended up with most of the intellectual property including the EV6 bus which pretty much lives on.
- bipolarruledout, on 10/22/2008, -0/+1You CAN'T be serious..... especially in a CPU discussion no less. It would be absolutely disastrous for AMD to adopt a non-x86 design at this point in the game. I'm also sick of people acting like AMD is totally done for when they haven't even shrunk their die size as small as Intel has yet.
- s4g4n, on 10/22/2008, -1/+1Core i7 runs 8 cores at over 3Ghz. Where can I get one?
- Giga, on 10/22/2008, -0/+0I would hardly call a history review "news", but it is still good to see tech related articles on the front page.
Edit: I suppose I should have read the article before posting that, it does have some recent information... - chmcarro, on 10/22/2008, -1/+1I am aware. But did you know that iCore7 is on a different motherboard socket entirely and a new power supply connection? I can't just upgrade the CPU, I must also switch to a $300 motherboard, way more than expected for your average motherboard upgrade and a new power supply style that hasn't even been released. Who knows how much that will cost.
- mynameistux, on 10/22/2008, -1/+1well, thats enough reading for one day.
- chmcarro, on 10/22/2008, -3/+3I can't justify the cost of an Intel Core i7 system. $284 for the cpu, around $300 for an x58 motherboard, and I believe you will need an unreleased power supply since the cpu takes an 8 pin connection, and DDR3 ram is required.
- mrsteveman1, on 10/22/2008, -2/+1"At launch, it will be clocked at well over the 3GHz mark. It has 1567 pin outs, and comes in the flat FCLGA (flip chip land grid array) packaging that will be familiar from the Core 2 line. That means that balls of solder meet the circuit board head on, and end in simple pads which are then laid on to of pins in the motherboard socket."
No more little legs to break off? I've never had to remove a core 2 so ive never seen the pin side, i don't think ive ever seen that type anywhere actually. -
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