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- Colbear, on 10/12/2007, -1/+64You make a ton of cash selling an inferior model and then six to eight months later bring out the new color one. Then you release a B&W with a better resolution, then color with a better resolution
That's how the tech industry works - juheimbu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24At least get the quote right. GEEZ!!!
- adamfalkofske, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20If I can see my screen and tell who is calling at noon outside, I'm sold. This looks outstanding.
- da5id, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18B & W first, then color. You watch the vid? All bleeding edge devices work that way, from TV to laser printers.
- ahhell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17It kind of looks like the cell phones from Earth: Final Conflict.
- Ollin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17by 2010 we are gonna be watching videos on displays like that........thats my guess :D
- thefirelane, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12I think RGB is for light emiting color.. which is why we don't have RGB printers
- wingnut21, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10And you were going to construct a prototype how? I have an idea for a flying car, but it's worth nothing because I don't know how to execute it.
- gmillerd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10I and many others would love a simple monochrome palm3 with a display the size of legalpad and a lithium ion battery (that doesnt burn my house down) and a network sync option of some sort and some modern storage.
I am not sold on using my blackberry for taking notes or a crappy windows tablet (though the note taking software is slick) - kurtergad87, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Isn't Sony's e-books DRM only? I'd rather have a normal book and then wait for something like what the video shows with whatever format is going to be for books what the mp3 is for music and DivX is for movies.
- malloc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8That you took from Gene Roddenberry?
- Slovenian6474, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7As a college student, one of those replacing 3-5 hardback text books...GOLDEN!
- Fordi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9The B&W is due to the nature of how the eInk works; it's tiny little mircodots that are white and positive on one side, and black/negative on the other.
- fjvwing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6You do the same with cola bottles. They could be reused, nobody does.
Once something is cheap enough to be deemed disposable, it will be disposed off. - rockets, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Thanks, I was trying to remember the name of the series
with the hot chick and the gay guy... - stuartjmoore, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4eInk can only do about 4,000 colors so far...
- tomwb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'm waiting for e-ink technology to replace the computer monitor completely. Staring at a light all day can't be good for my eyes. Imagine having the surface of your desk and the wall behind it acting as your display, illuminated by the ambient light in the room.
We coud even do away with mice, using touch-sensitive input.
I wish someone would hurry up and develop this. - myheaditches, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'm pretty sure the ghosting is quite bad on these displays.
- Suchmann, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Yeah, i had this about curing cancer. I hope nobody steals it!!!
- xtmno3, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Good ideas up until using touch screen. Have you ever tried to use a touch screen monitor for anything remotely precise? BLAH!
- ArchonMagnus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4In dcasegr's defense, the OP did say "refresh rate" as opposed to "response time". These won't have a refresh rate as in CRT's but as tylerni7 said, the response time is similar to LCD displays-the smaller, the better.
- Topher06, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4What I have found hillarious in some Sci-fi shows is where a person is reading a newspaper with animated stories, but then throws out the paper after he was done with it.
Forgot which movie or show it was, but I thought it was funny that paper with the ability of showing dynamic content would be thrown out instead of simply uploading new content to or getting new content wirelessly.
The sad thing is that it will probably happen in reality where it is cheaper to put fixed content into a cheap eInk display for disposable purposes rather then adding a few extra dollars of electronics to make it reusable.
Kind of like disposable digital cameras. - chrisek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@ollin: We will see it sooner, 2008 i think :)
Btw this gadget looks like communicator from Earth Final conflict :) - daldredge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@dcasegr
It does matter. Some of the 'e-paper' displayes take 750ms to 1.75 seconds to change the entire screen. That is a noticible amount of delay and is really noticible. View the above video at around 40 seconds is and notice the slow/weird way the screen redraws. - josegutz, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5I liked the idea very much...I like the Flexability... but not as much as that Zlata video that was a couple videos away. DAMN Talk about flexxing...
- Shutter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@furan: Of course not. Books with eInk == ideal for students.
- daldredge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2http://www.eink.com/products/matrix/High_Res.html
Contrast Ratio: 8:1 (typical)
Viewing Angle: 170º
Grayscale Capability: 2-bit (4 gray levels)
Image Update Time: 1000 ms (grayscale mode) 500 ms (1-bit mode)
http://www.eink.com/kits/index.html
The screen can only be refreshed once per second per the specs and this rate isn't 100%. T - wingnut21, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Close, but that's not drool. It's battery acid dripping out of their mouths after an explosion.
- xtmno3, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I don't think I did, but I can't prove it, and it is a moot point now anyway.
Oh well. - DrunkPikachu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Just imagining using a larger version of this to replace my college textbooks makes me salivate. Too bad publishers/vendors would still overcharge for the e-book version.
- rockintom99, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Making non-reusable e-ink displays? If it ever hits the point that they become that cheap, i say that would be a good time.
And enough Tom Cruise bashing. Yes, i know. He is a scientologist. As an atheist, *all* religions look pretty crazy to me. Plus, Cruise is a decent actor. - BufordT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I can already see drool coming out of the mouths of overpriced, under-performing battery manufacturers.
- kamitsuyo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It's still a new idea comming out. I'm sure they will get more durable
- Hermitwise, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Firefly? I love that show, the goofiest thing was the holographic pool table, it seemed so terribly needless.
- subbzzz, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5ebook reader: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Reader
e-ink: http://eink.com/ (which SONY Reader uses) - rearden, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It would be nice if they could use two memory metal supports to "extend" the screen out, thus removing the need for that back hinge for support. It would/could also make it more durable. I see a real likely hood of problems from that hinge with everything from it getting bent to it simply getting broken by someone bumping into me. If someone bumps into my paper, big deal, if someone bumps into that thing... well it looks expensive.
- cmfrolick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Looks like everyone's missing that this is a Philips product, not eInk, and they are obviously thinking color will be soon.
http://www.polymervision.nl/ProductsApplications/Vision/Index.html
Another article about the prototype:
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=5142 - kamitsuyo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1nodong i'd assume it'd kinda work like buying mp3's now. they wouldn't be just free
- kamitsuyo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Harry Potter has this to
- Minos, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Send a letter to your Congressman. He'll get to the bottom of it. :D
- cmfrolick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I need to read farther, eInk is a partner, and looks like they may license the tech for their implementation, especially since eInk doesn't seem to list it on their page.
- prytz420, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What is "wellstone"?
- richiestang78, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Very cool, even with B&W it still will be useful and just plain cool
- nodong, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1But the cost of printing a textbook is less than $2 per copy, sometimes less than $1. The price is all editorial expenses, royalties and profit for the company. The companies would have to make cuts somewhere to make the books any cheaper. If you think you can make quality textbooks cheaper then you should make a fortune. Good luck.
- JasonPrini, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wellstone might be sci-fi, but programmable matter is real and working on lab benches at Universities all over the world.
- rockintom99, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Using this for school would be beyond brilliant, as it would be a heck of a lot cheaper, and you can take notes on the text itself (provided it is touchscreen, but that is pretty much a given in PDAs)
- rockintom99, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wellstone is a "programmable matter" that came from a *very* goo sci-fi series The Collapsium (http://www.amazon.com/-Collapsium/dp/055358443X/sr=8-1/qid=1156909741/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-6990667-7022219?ie=UTF8)
I'd wait a few hundred years or so for that, though. - anagoge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://img.engadget.com/common/images/3238125246845557.jpg?0.4762977971553337 - First thing I thought of when I saw this.
- crashingechelon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I would love to use this for school. Be able to have my books in my pocket and when I get home type up my notes and put them on there to study at school. I think students may be more productive with this thing.
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