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- dawgma, on 07/17/2009, -1/+18These Corsair's offer better performance than the Intel X25-M SSDs which cost ~$3.92 per GB. The Corsair extremes will be $3.42 per GB. Sounds like progress to me!
But silly me.. I actually go out and compare numbers when I make a definitive statement. Meh. - inactive, on 07/17/2009, -0/+11Good for a boot and game drive, not nearly large enough for a porn drive.
- zakatov, on 07/17/2009, -0/+9FTA: Estimates: $149.99 for the 32GB model, $219.99 for the 64GB model, and $375.99 for the 128GB model.
- Dugglous, on 07/17/2009, -0/+9They are much better than HDDs as system drives, but not so much as storage drives. Maybe I'm shortsighted but having 200MBs read/write for storage drives doesn't make a huge difference unless you have videos that need such bandwidth.
- kentifer, on 07/17/2009, -0/+7SSDs are definitely getting cheaper.
Give it a decade and hard-drives will be mostly obsolete. - dawgma, on 07/17/2009, -0/+5And in case you didn't know, the Intel SSDs have been by far the best consumer MLC drives for nearly a year.
- Myztry, on 07/17/2009, -0/+5Except you're not going to buy a spool of 50+ SSD's for $10-$15...
- everling, on 07/17/2009, -0/+3It's not that impressive actually.
Although Intel's ageing drives are slower in sequential read/write against most other competitors, Intel's controllers are still four times better than Indilinx's Barefoot controllers in regards to random write (24 MB/s vs 6 MB/s). And the Barefoot is the second best in random write in the market at this time.
Random write performance is rather important when you have a fragmented file system, which tends to happen after you have used your computer for a good long while. - erhanaltay, on 07/17/2009, -0/+310 years? I'm hoping things change a bit faster than that! I predict the end of both magnetic hard drives & CD/DVD players. Solid State will replace both. So for example PC games & software will simply come on a usb stick or be digitally downloaded.
optical drives will go the way of the floppy drive. - keyo, on 07/17/2009, -0/+3The read/write speeds are not always the best ways to measure performance. Anandtech has some very detailed articles on intel's drives that show they are winners in terms of other measurements like latency, lifetime, concurrency and so on.
- KlipschFan, on 07/17/2009, -1/+3@everling
Good point about random writes. SSD drives have to select write locations based on how many writes have been made to that space.
For this reason spinning platters are not going away any time soon. They have much longer lifespan.
I'm stubborn in my idea that we could improve spinning platters by using thousands of fixed read/write heads. Virtually no chance of head crash. - Culyt, on 07/17/2009, -0/+2The price of flash memory went up recently.
- zer0mass, on 07/17/2009, -0/+2I agree, SSD's are pretty much specialized right now as high speed low capacity OS and high performance app drives while all other storage needs are taken care of by slower cheaper high capacity magnetic drives. New tech advances are still being made on magnetic drives so I'm sure they have at least a decade or more of life in them. We should be seeing close to 1TB SSD's by next year in the enterprise market, but at tens of thousands of dollars it won't be over taking any HDD in the consumer market for many years. Especially with $80 1TB magnetic drives.
Ultimately I think the consumer market will switch to almost 100% SSD's in less than 10 years. - xplorecontent, on 08/16/2009, -0/+1next gen storage space....SSDs......gets cheaper as days pass by..
- PhonicUK, on 07/17/2009, -1/+2How about a little more focus on improving the existing SSDs and figuring out how to make them at a lower price so they actually become viable for consumers?
8 months ago I bought a 30GB OCZ SSD for about £80, and the price has gone *UP* - wtf :| - tnoy, on 07/17/2009, -0/+1Optical Drives and media are going to be around for a long while, in my opinion.
At some point flash media will be cost effective by comparison, but we're still long way off from being able to deliver a 50GB+ of data for a few bucks like you can with BluRay (or better) optical media. We're probably less than a decade away from having optical media that provides 1TB+ of data with costs comparable to what DVDRs are now.
Now, I do agree with you for delivering data of smaller sizes. I can see <5GB being delivered via a USB flash drive in the next few years. - inactive, on 07/17/2009, -0/+1Damn all the extreme stuff !
- tnoy, on 07/17/2009, -0/+1Unless there wasn't enough space to add the cache due to the form factor of the drive.
- Yazilliclick, on 07/17/2009, -0/+1Myztry is right. USB/Flash is pretty cheap for what they are but they can't compete with how cheap and simple something like a DVD or Blu Ray is. Flash drives are just too complicated by comparison and costly to produce. And considering that if they cost only $1 more to produce than a disk then on sales of 1 million that's 1 million less profit. You're going to have a hard time selling that to publishers.
- dawgma, on 07/17/2009, -0/+1@everling
Are you sure you're comparing apples with apples? These Corsair drives are MLC and you can only fairly compare them to the X25-M Intel models, not the X25-E (SLC) models.
Intel MLC 4k writes have been in the range of 10MB/s - 20MB/s. The same range as the drives with the Indilinx controllers. Check out the OCZ Vertex series. There are benchmarks on those MLC drives that use Indilinx and they have the same 4k write performance as Intel's MLCs. - CircaSurvive, on 07/17/2009, -0/+1Seriously cannot wait until these drop more in price and have more storage. haha. So sweet!
- Bondheli, on 07/17/2009, -0/+1wtf corsair?
You already have a regular ssd that does 220mbps read and 200mbps write for $345.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ... (not to mention the newegg sale price)
So for $30 more I can get the "extreme" one that writes 50 mbps slower?
no thankyou - zer0mass, on 07/17/2009, -0/+1They do something like that in the enterprise market, as well as far more (in some cases up to 100% the drive capacity) spare cells for when rewrite limits are reached or other correctable failures.
- 4AntiStupid, on 07/17/2009, -0/+1I won't be long before the spinning platters go in the closet next to the 1200bps modem.
- inactive, on 07/17/2009, -1/+2Can't wait to build a PC with two SSDs in Raid 1 for Programs/OS and like a 5TB spinning hard drive for media storage.
- Myztry, on 07/17/2009, -3/+3I don't see why SSD's are still so slow. Inside a HDD enclosure you could place any number of chips in parallel and really blast it down the main interface. I guess it's going to be like CD's where despite breakthrough technical leaps they just dribbled them out as 1x, 2x, 4x, 6x, etc to fuel upgrade demand.
- Mohdoo, on 07/17/2009, -2/+2I'm going to check prices, as if there is any hope they are affordable :(
- brbeaird, on 07/17/2009, -2/+2WANT.
- happyMensch, on 07/17/2009, -1/+1Once "the industry" sets a price, they like to stick with it, and then just work with specs. If you want a cheaper price, you (like me) will wait to buy the drive that is 1yr old.
- everling, on 07/19/2009, -0/+0@dawgma
I was referencing Anand's articles on the matter.
Anand has Intel's X25-M 4K random write at about 23 MB/s and OCZ Vertex's (Indilinx Barefoot rev 1275) 4K random write at 6.4 MB/s.
http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=35 ...
That was sometime ago and considering the sequential read/write of the reviewed rev 1275 doesn't line up with Corsair's new release, I assume that there has been more changes. - musntSurfatWork, on 07/17/2009, -1/+0The only game I can see benefitting from SSD, is The Sims 2 and its 25 expansions.
Perhaps Diablo3 as well when that comes out, in 10 years. By then SSD will be rampant at $100 for 25 Terabytes. - Bean888, on 07/17/2009, -3/+1Do these things ever get released? I'm still waiting for the SanDisk G3 SSDs announced waaaaaay back in January.
- rhedrick, on 07/17/2009, -5/+2The impression I get from the article is that Corsair is coming out with drives that rival what their competitors already have out there. Nothing in the article indicates better performance or lower prices. Meh.
- FightTest, on 07/17/2009, -11/+3Woah, dude, my hard drive just did a nollie heel flip to 5-0 grind. That ***** was X-TREEEEEEEEME.
- Duncan3, on 07/17/2009, -10/+0*laughs* you can smell the MBA stink involved in this one...
"One anomaly with regard to Corsair's Legacy series drives is that the 32GB and 64GB models both have 128MB of cache, while the larger 128GB model has no cache. Hence, its read/write speeds are greatly diminished: 90MB/sec and 70MB/sec, respectively."
Sounds like they fixed that tho.


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