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- smackhero, on 10/10/2007, -3/+69RTFA: "It worked with nearly every worldwide cellphone carrier, not just AT&T, and not only in the U.S."--5th sentence of the first paragraph.
how ***** hard is it to read the actually article before you comment on it or ask others for information it clearly provides? - canewediggit, on 10/10/2007, -4/+67mmmmm digg double standards;
copyright and ip protection for music and movies- *****
copyright and ip protection for apple- important - Puppetfunk, on 10/10/2007, -4/+61Well if you can teach a ***** monkey to Solder then he must be a ***** smart monkey and I trust his capabilities.
- twrife, on 10/10/2007, -15/+60Those damn Chinese are so damn resourceful.
The rest of the world is screwed. - Battlecry, on 10/10/2007, -22/+66The only reason the Chinese can do this is because they don't recognize copyright law. They reverse-engineer things, steal the ideas, and then output it as something they made. And what they make is crap.
- informality, on 10/10/2007, -0/+37People, you're kind of missing the point of the article. The whole iClone thing was an introduction to the greater point. They're saying that China is going through the same transitional period as Japan in the 70's and Korea in the 80's, where their industry moves first from shoddy clones, to quality clones, and then finally to legitimate original products. Look at Japanese and Korean products now. The interesting thing, as the article points out, is that China's gone through most of this change in just 10 years--faster than Japan or Korea ever did.
- Petarded, on 10/10/2007, -2/+31The heck with the article. He didn't even read the description.
- davidcg, on 10/10/2007, -15/+44I'd buy it, but only if it's cheap! Only way i'd ever get a iphone is if becomes a free upgrade phone for at&t. haha. I'm a cheap basterd.
- 10goto10, on 10/10/2007, -11/+37I love Chinese pirates! ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!
- fkr3, on 10/10/2007, -1/+22They're 1/6th of the people on the planet.... it's inevitable that they be some of the smartest people on the planet.
- psykiv, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18Will NOT produce the complete works of Shakespeare. Just look at Digg.
- mcorto, on 10/10/2007, -16/+33"miniOne looked just like Apple's iPhone"... Uhm, uhm... "JUST LIKE"?!?! OMG... you must be blind! Check out the video.. that sucks! The interface looks awful... why would you wanna buy such a disgusting clone? Buy a Motorola, a Nokia or if you really want, buy an iPhone... not that chinese crap!
- InetRoadkill, on 10/10/2007, -2/+16The biggest improvement they could make would be to free the iPhone from the scourge of AT&T. That would be worth the price in itself.
The New AT&T,
Your World Delivered (to the NSA) - proghead, on 10/10/2007, -11/+25Did any of you actually watch the video?
its complete garbage!
GOD! RTFA! - Murdats, on 10/10/2007, -3/+17maybe you should look at half the stuff the rest of the world makes.
you know how people say things USED to be built to last, china isnt the only one making items that will fall apart quickly - captjc, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12I don't think intelligence is really the issue. The issue is incentive. As someone stated above, the main issue is that the only reason the Chinese can do this is because they don't recognize Intellectual Property. They have the incentive of creating a cheap knock-off and making a *****-load of money with little repercussions. If someone in, say, the US did this, they would get sued to hell over copyright and patent infringements. Therefore, there is no incentive to do this. I guarantee that if the incentive of not getting sued was there, there would be a *****-ton of iPhone lookalikes and knockoffs on the market.
- halavais, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12Where do you think most of your consumer electronics are *already* being made? The quality of Chinese products are already excellent.
- KiTchMe, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11Or, they just don't raise the price by at least 100% for having an apple on it.
- DrawingTheSun, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11that's not the miniOne, that's the other phone they guy was talking about, did you even read the article?
- vvaduva, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10The best line of the article: "Most bold of all, the bogus NEC actually charged the manufacturers it worked with royalties on its designs."
- isaaccs, on 10/10/2007, -6/+15I'm sure it works just like the real thing. Just don't feed it to your pet.
- quincymd, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10Meizu, the guys who make the miniOne, do actually make great products even though they may be "knock-offs"
I've got one of their miniPlayer M6's and miles better than the Nano. It plays ogg/flac amongst others, decent video playback, FM radio and isn't crippled with any DRM gunk.
But most crucially, it has regular firmware updates. Meizu pay attention to the posts on their forum about what could be improved and respond to what the users want in their device. All this and way cheaper than a nano.
If they have keep up that level of service for their phone, I'm in.
Check it out:
http://www.meizume.com/showthread.php?t=720
- CReyes4182, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10iClone... now you can rotate the screen manually.
- allaboutdatiki, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10It's a bootleg world.
Everything, Everywhere. Cars. Phones. Soccer jerseys ...
http://www.digg.com/soccer/Cheap_Knockoff_Beckham_Jerseys_Flood_eBay_Who_Wins_Who_Loses_pictures - hiro, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9And probably the same monkey that makes the iPhone
- Traiklin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7This is ridiculous, ir-regardless of whatever benefits it may hold, the eastern nations cannot continue to support this nation, its numerous civil rights atrocity, destruction of free speech, support of bush, oppression of the middle east and support for other international threats such as iran is far too terrible to simply ignore for the sake of business.
Wow, it's rather amazing how you change a few words and it becomes a repeat argument. - pintomp3, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7samsung, lg.
- DaffyDuck, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7LG, a Korean company, is doing quite well.
- ronaldinho, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7We Chinese are doing what we do best: cloning and copying everything in sight. Hopefully, in order for us Chinese to be even more a global force, we will eventually come up with originality. Don't be a world factory, be someone controlling factories around the world.
- EthylAdded, on 10/10/2007, -9/+15Finally: the first cell-phone positively guaranteed to give the user massive brain tumors.
- dagamer34, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6When you realize that production facilities for these phones are in China as well, it's not that hard to steal some prototypes if you grese the right wheels.
- o2o2o2o2, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6So you think by blocking great products from China to the USA will change anything? In the long run, it will just make the USA the least high tech nation in the world. If the USA cant get new products from other countries, where will that leave us in the worlds marketplace.
USA: Hey china, can I fax that to you
CHINA: Fax? We have'nt used one of those in 10 years. - Jambi, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9To be honest, I think they've come close to making an iPod killer; excellent form factor, the touchpad works very well for browsing, the construction on their players is sturdy, and the UI is a standard list setup that's well done. And on top of that, they're cheap. If they ever pumped a lot of money into US marketing, they could earn a bundle.
- andyduncan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5An open message to all OSS nerds: nobody cares about ogg. On the plus side, they're bringing back Futurama, so you've got that going for you...
- glitch47, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Irregardless isn't a real word, unless you mean it in a comedic sense.
- Kazbaeden, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Right above the video is the caption "A closer look at the P168:" RTFA.
- GMorgan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Patents tend to hold back innovation. In many fields the monopoly is so comfortable that there is no longer a need to innovate. The whole photocopier monopoly illustrates that.
- DaffyDuck, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Anybody have any first hand experience with Meizu products? I'm curious about their quality.
- nullcodes, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5@Battlecry
Don't be so sure that the chinese can't innovate..
From the article:
The key to its simple interface is a screen that responds to several touches at once. It makes rapid text entry possible and allows keyboard-and-mouse-type navigation through Web pages and the phone's built-in applications. The screen is built by a German company called Balda, but the technology itself, licensed to Apple's supplier, is neither American nor European. It was originally developed to aid in the rapid input of Asia's huge, character-based alphabets. It comes from China. - norman619, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5That depends on what you call cheap. Between $200 - $300 is cheap to me.
- norman619, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8Translation: THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!
- rivalius13, on 10/10/2007, -4/+9Chinese pirates? Wonder what their eye patches are like.....
- norman619, on 10/10/2007, -7/+12If China can make an iPhone knockoff and sell it for much less then more power to them. This should force Apple to ask for a more reasonable sum for their device if they care to actually compete for those non-apple fanatic dollars. Apple's $600 bloated price tag for the iPhone is insane. Not everyone thinks it's cool to pay the Apple cool tax they apply to their devices. I like that there will be offerings from Sun and others as well. Let the competition begin! For some reason I doubt Apple will lower their prices.
- DaffyDuck, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Well, knockoffs rarely sell as well as the original. Looking at the video, the OS seems very unpolished. White text on a yellow background is a bizarre choice for the dialing screen. When you touch an icon, the white text becomes briefly surrounded by a white (or light) background which looks out of place. The beginning starts with a stupid jumping question mark in an oversized white box (like a win3.1 popup in Vista). Also, there was no demonstration of text input. I am sure it will be lacking when compared to the iPhone.
- igob8a, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Yep, Samsung has been the world's #1 consumer electronics brand, beating Sony in 2005. Their profits are more than double that of Sony's.
Korean companies tend to have their hands in many markets. Samsung not onle sells electronics, they also manufacture army tanks, Howitzers/Artillery, Large Freight Ships, and many many things you would never think about. they also build buildings, own 2 sports teams and run a cell phone network.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung - RapeApe, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Damn they even clone cars. Someone get me a Chinese Ferrari.
- DirtySnachez, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4oh snap.
- coffeebot, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4so far, China has completely failed at cloning my BANANA PHONE
- Lewie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I see what you did there
- cgruber, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Even Bilo can tell that's ***** lame.
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