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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+101Dance Dance Revolution players.
- eexlebots, on 10/12/2007, -12/+57Hipsters can't allow themselves to admit that they enjoy something everyone else likes.
- joel8x, on 10/12/2007, -8/+53You know what, can they explain why the pictures of themselves playing the Wii in the article feature them with smiles on their faces while playing. Isn't that the point of a game?
- KSUdesigner, on 10/12/2007, -13/+52"6 hour stretches are almost a daily habit for me."
*****. Get a job. - Doubledown, on 10/12/2007, -14/+52Well, Children will love to be up and running around while playing. Parents will love that because it will get the kids to spend energy. Parents will love the Wii for the downloadable games... Seems like a win/win/win system for families.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+39They are overweight by hipster terms, which state that "one must be able to fit into his little sister's jeans in order to be considered cool".
- GuyHitByTruck, on 10/12/2007, -4/+35These guys are overweight?! Gosh, western society these days!
- chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -5/+35"Too many journalists are giving out the impression that the Wii will provide an unbelievable, unique experience unlike anything you will have ever played before. That the Wii remote allows for completely dynamic gameplay that will revolutionise the gaming world. These facts are half-truths, based most probably on people spending a small amount of time with the console at a booth at one of the big conventions. When you get down to the nitty gritty of the Wii you find something a bit different from the 360 and PS3, but not drastically as you may have thought/hoped."
found that part more intresting. - Xarou, on 10/12/2007, -9/+32What is a "regular" controller? A joystick? A square one with only the D-pad, Start, Select, A and B buttons? How about rounding the edges and adding the X, Y, R, and L? No no no, let's make it kinda pointy and have a Z button on the back and add a port for a vibration pack? No, that's dumb, let's add two more R and L buttons, get rid of that silly Z button, make it look like a dog bone and put some analog sticks on it? How about we just turn it white and make it futuristic looking and take away the cord all together?
If you catch what I'm trying to say, there is no such thing as a "regular" controller. All the controllers from Atari to XBox 360 have been different. Do you want to play with a wireless controller? If so, you aren't using a regular controller. Up until now, the standard controller was wired. Where do you define "regular"? It's called innovation. I bet you didn't complain when games went to 3D instead of 2D side scrollers. The video game industry has changed and it will change in the future. I can see in the not so distant future being in VR games. Will you not want to do that? Don't be stagnant, change is good. If they never changed, we'd still be playing Pong.
There, I'm done. You can dig me down if you want, but you people who complain about Nintendo's innovation being a bad thing disgust me. - Lain1k, on 10/12/2007, -5/+28I see Wii as something for my friends and I. We have gotten older and have less time and interest in those 6 hour sessions of hard core gaming. We might pick up the must have games like God of War or Halo but for the most part our gaming revolves around quick and fun party games, mainly gamecube games. Think we have spend more time on SSBM and Mario Kart then any other game.
Think thats the Wii is going after people who arn't really hardcore gaming, someone that wants to play something fun every so often but doesnt want to spend 400-600$ on it. - Paroparo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23I would have to agree. Those guys aren't all that skinny, but sure as heck aren't overweight. Notably so at least.
- jocnnor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17"At the top you saw the Nintendo produced images, pictures of models enjoying themselves, frolicking around or looking like they are intensely embroiled in a game. Below are pictures of 'real' people, looking overweight, disjointed and ungainly – we're still having fun, albeit of the ugly and humiliating kind."
They did explain it. His point was not that it wasn't fun, but that it wasn't as dramatic as he was led to believe it would be i.e. they weren't spinning in circles, diving over couches, while swinging their arms frantically. Honestly, that was exactly what I pictured when I thought of the Wii. And actually, I am somewhat relieved. If I want to look insane to those people unfortunate enough to see me through my window, I can just plug in my eye-toy (it was a gift....so stop laughing) and flail around fighting off tiny, jumping ninja men or cleaning invisible windows.
Wii still sounds fun to me...even if I don't actually have to do a back flip to make Link do one. - spidoman, on 10/12/2007, -13/+29No, the point of a game is to have good enough graphics that you don't pay attention to gameplay. And to be able to sit down and be as sedentary as possible. The premium version of the PS3 has an IV of fat and sugar.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+22"No instructions, no tutorial, just jump in and play. It was simple and effective and everyone, including the Nintendo-rep watching us, was chuckling at our efforts. Then we switched and started boxing – a similarly instinctive, though far more tiring game. In this, you had to punch backwards and forwards with both nunchuck and remote, swinging your hands right and left to dodge, moving up and down to duck. Despite each round lasting only a minute the whole process was hugely active, the Nintendo Wii will put paid to Jamie Oliver's plans to go on a crusade about 'Fat kids play games'. The Wii generation will be super fit, super toned athlectic Gods amongst men. Well, maybe not - but at least they won't be fat like this generation."
So they contradicted their earlier statements. What is it guys? Innovative active gameplay or just an ad on? Make up you rmind - masona3, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18Fat people, rejoice! You can play the Wii without having to move your lazy ass, after all! Hip hip, hooray! Hip hip, hooray!
- RandomGuySteve, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Did school let out early?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10I was expecting to see NumaNuma guy sized "Overweight" journalists.
- ejstacey, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15It's sort of dumb... no matter what people will complain.
"You can play the games while sitting on the couch. This is lame!"
"You have to stand up to play the whole time! Who will do that? This is lame!"
I think Nintendo has taken a good approach. You CAN get really interactive and jump around if you want to. If you want to sit down and have a hardcore gaming session, you can do that too (since it sounds like it's based on wrist flicks). The only problem is you have reporters writing dumb articles about one aspect of it. You can be sure that if Zelda/Trauma Center/whatever requested the jumped around the whole time, they'd be complaining about that too. - felchdonkey, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Grimdotdotdot has a good point, I don't know what the negative diggs are about. If you have a disability that keeps you from standing up, I would hope the Wii can still be as fun. I don't see why it can't be, though - it seems like the actions are all arm-based.
- matrixfusion, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12I dunno, I'm a pretty hardcore Nintendo fanboy and I think their biggest concern is my concern, too: the follow-through. But I think that's just an issue of developers and game makers utilizing the controller in all its infinite-possibility glory, that's all. The first wave of games is rarely the best. Even then, there sure are some good games coming out.
And Twilight Princess is a GC game, plain and simple. Not a Wii game. - Grimdotdotdot, on 10/12/2007, -9/+18What about people that *can't* actually stand up?
- teknotant, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14But some people NEED to stand-up and play for an extended period of time.
- spyrochaete, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9"The point isn't whether or not the system is fun, but whether or not the system will deliver the utterly euphoric experience that is being hyped."
Give me a break. That's just marketing. When you see a car on sale for $19,999 are you relieved that it's not in the $20,000 range? Do you think women on their periods ride bikes and go swimming and ride horses when they use Playtex?
If you've heard anything about the Wii it's been delivered by Nintendo's marketing department. That's what the article author was comparing his own observations to. If their engineers were invited to address the public (props to Sony and their very technical E3 keynotes) there would be a very different brand of mystique hovering in the air about the product. If you take a salesman's words as gospel you're destined for disappointment.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but products - ALL products - may not be as fantastic as advertised. Read between the lines.
Batteries not included, some assembly required, must be supervised by an adult, do not place bag over head, for external use only, keep out of reach of young children, may cause redness of eyes, do not use an hour before driving, consult a doctor before regular use. - 83457, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Wrist flicking versus arm movement CAN be an issue with some party/multiplayer game enjoyment. If you are battling someone in a contest and using realistic large motions while your opponent is beating your with short wrist movements, that sucks. There should be an option to tweak the movement range allowed. A prime example is a boxing game where wrist flicks might have the same affect as realistic punches and movements. There should be an option that can be enabled to allow only realistic movements.
- Grimdotdotdot, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8280 people give a flying ***** - so far.
- Zman0101, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Being an office worker, who sits at a desk for 8 hours a day, I for one welcome any chance to stand up and get some exercize / be active, and if it can be done while doing something I enjoy, even better! This is a welcome change for me in the videogame world.
If you think you will get tired from being on your feet playing the Wii, maybe its time to re-evaluate your lifestyle.
The only problem I see with jumping around as a part of gameplay, is pissing off my neighbors downstairs ;) - loginname, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6@woodenturkey
Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. - felchdonkey, on 10/12/2007, -6/+12Wait, GuyHitByTruck just made fun of Seibei because he DOESN'T play video games for 6 hours at a time, and actually gets work done instead?
That's a little bit like making fun of someone because they can't eat an entire chocolate cake in one sitting, since they have to get ready to out on a date. - oldtimegamer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5This is the exact same issues that these guys stated and everyone flammed.
http://digg.com/gaming_news/Hands_on_Review_of_the_Wii_and_Launch_Titles
The truth will be available soon people.
(PS This story has already been on the frontpage, so no Im not looking for diggs.) - duddles, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I thought only women sat down to Wii.
- crilen007, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Please don't screw up Smash Bros...
Please don't screw up Smash Bros...
Please don't screw up Smash Bros...
Please don't screw up Smash Bros... - spyrochaete, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7I found some of their criticisms to be directed more at the programming implementation than at the hardware itself. I'm sure programmers are perfectly capable of choosing whether motions should be as "large as life" or minimized in little gestures. Hopefully games will give us the option to choose the one we prefer! That way we could play sitting or standing!
- cmburns69, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The point isn't whether or not the system is fun, but whether or not the system will deliver the utterly euphoric experience that is being hyped. They admitted they enjoyed it, but it did not send them to an instant, everlasting digital paradise.
(They also raised the concern in passing that perhaps it's just a gimmick, and that the fun factor would go away after a couple play sessions)
EDIT: Apparently, everyone but Joel realized this as well... - bootle, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I have a projector for my home theater. This poses two concerns regarding the wii...
1. Does the sensor bar have a long enough cable to reach the screen (I keep the electronics on a bookcase behind the couch, with the projector sitting atop it. More seriously
2. I'm over 6' tall, if I have to stand while playing, my head will cast a shadow on the screen.
Has anyone heard anything about these concerns?
Has - felyduw, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Why do people compare the PS3 price out of the box versus Wii + 360 + extra wiimote + extra nunchuk + extra 360 controller?
I find that somewhat fallacious. People will buy what they want to buy. I want to buy console A and just as long as console A has games I enjoy and I'm able to play them with my family I'm happy.
Granted, that's what made my dreamcast the best console I ever bought... and look what that turned out eheh. - ICSU, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5They ain't overweight, just lazy.
- spyrochaete, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Your comment reminds me of the recent South Park WoW episode where the kids are so immersed in the little world, sitting in their chairs and clicking and mousing, that they become completely non-expressive and apathetic. Maybe the Wii is the solution to that.
- Soulhuntre, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4ok. that makes the whole stupid name worth while.
- SkippyDoorknob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Don't you mean:
Big hips, Hooray! Big hips, Hooray! - falstaff, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7FTA: "Those of you who remain one step ahead of me may suggest that the Wii need not be played standing up. To you I make two points; first, some would suggest that would take away from the fundamental essence of what the Wii is meant to provide. That you're meant to be active, you're meant to be doing silly movements as this is what makes the Wii what it is."
Wrong. That's what Wii Sports is all about. There are certainly other really active games, but as he says in the very next paragraph, just a flick of the wrist is enough for most. If you want to really get into the game, stand up and be a part of it. If you want a relaxing break from reality, sit back and play some other game. The Wii isn't necessarily about REQUIRING more activity, it's about options, being intuitive, and being fun. If that ends up being 3rd best in the console market, I'll give up all hope in 21st century gamers. - mecole21, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9This is exactly what I want... I don't really play video games when I'm alone, but when friends come over we're always playing Madden, Racing Games, Mario sports games, and other various multiplayer games... this system is set up to bring the social aspect of video games that used to be the whole idea back in arcades back into video games....
- Nightfall, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8Thats right! It all depends on how much enjoyment you get out of your investment. After spending $300 on the console and accessories, and then plop down $100 for a couple games, will you be satisfied? Will that $400 provide you many hours of enjoyment? Then why not pay for the Wii? I dropped $1500 on my computer and that doesn't include gaming titles I buy. I am on that PC a lot, and I love computer gaming so its a great investment.
Ok, so these people had fun playing it, but didn't see the long term enjoyment out of the product. Well, thats their viewpoint. I still want to get my hands on a Wii because of the control system. It just looks really cool.
I just hope I get my investment out of it. - felchdonkey, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9They look overweight to me, and I'm not being mean, they said so themselves. I agree they're not fat by American standards (that's a pretty high bar), but they could certainly hit the gym or get out and play some sports.
- Microdot, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8finally... a realistic viewpoint to the wii. big thumbs up to this guy for not playing into the hype, and being honest and subjective.
and i find it hilarious that every post so far in this article has been dugg down because they say something even moderately derogatory about the wii. silly stupid fanboys... oh when will you learn? - MikeUnwired, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I'd guess that the Wii is more of a baby step in innovation more than a revolutionary change in video games. What it does do is take the gaming action out of the fingers and spread it around the body a bit more. You can certainly stand-up and use more than just your thumb muscles now, but, other than DDR, there's really no reason. I've seen Madden players standing and shaking their controllers in all sorts of directions as their fingers pound at the buttons. Wii put an actual reason in getting off the couch to play other than getting excited.
I've got carpel tunnel -- not from video game play by the way -- and I'm hoping that spreading the control away from my thumb and fingers will keep my wrists a little looser and my hands from becoming the tingly achy appendages that keep me from enjoying game play with my son. And, maybe with a little practice, I'll be able to actually beat him at something other than chess and Monopoly for once. - kelbear, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Ecomni just spoke my mind.
I'm really excited about the Wii, for the hardware. But as for the games, there's only a handful of games that I want. I don't even have a whole bunch of gamer friends to come over and play multiplayer stuff with, I'm pretty much the only guy in my local crew that plays games extensively(We're 22-24).
I still like the "hardcore" games, and I don't see why the Wii wouldn't be able to support such games. But as for the launch line-up, only a few of them seem to be targetting me. On the horizon I see a few more I'd want, but not enough. I have zero interest in the PS3 and its games, but the Xbox360 has a whole bunch of games coming up that I'd like(Currently it only has a handful like the wii launch line-up).
I've gotta decide between the two. Xbox360 which is my safe choice, or Wii which has amazing potential. - Grimdotdotdot, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Bowling might be tricky...
- Xarou, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Hey buddy, if you look at the stick controller... and turn it on it's side, you will see the "regular" D-Pad and button combo. And if you want that particular set-up to be the "regular" one, guess who invented it. Nintendo. Guess what, it wasn't regular when they debuted it. They went against the grain and put out something revolutionary. Once again, Nintendo is doing the same thing. And to let you know, the PS controllers have changed. There was no rumble in the PS1 controller but there was in the PS2 controller. And there they just copied Nintendo. If you remember, they had the rumble pack for the N64 controller. So please, inform yourself before you go bashing stuff.
- Suspected, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4The original creator of Smash Bros is the one in charge of the Wii's Super Smash Bro, so we shouldn't be disappointed. With that said, he decided to not use the Wiimote's sensor tool for game play. I personally think that it's a wise move on his part. I think the Wii and the Wiimote is great, but just because you can use something does not mean you should. The Wii will have many games and some will be able to perfectly utilize the motion sensor while others will be great for deciding to abstain from using it.
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