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- ijustam, on 10/11/2007, -10/+175@thepixelator,
For what it's worth, "it's" is a contraction made up of "it" and "is." - ziki, on 10/11/2007, -5/+167was all that worth it?
- sonick, on 10/11/2007, -13/+117@ijustam,
For what it's worth... you have good grammar. - ThePixelator, on 10/11/2007, -34/+120@gulpy
for what its worth....you misspelled you're - chrisgeleven, on 10/11/2007, -4/+71Is it me or does $1800 seem a tad expensive for best "bang for you buck" PC?
I would consider a bang for your buck PC to be ~$1000.
Who the heck considers a $300 video card "bang for your buck"? - lordtyros, on 10/11/2007, -4/+50e6700 was a poor choice.
- Insomniac33, on 10/11/2007, -2/+44e6700 is a bad choice. e6600 is only a tad slower, $90 cheaper, and can OC with the best of them. And you can get much better ram than that Kingston HyperX for probably cheaper (i.e. 2GB of DDR2-1000 Ballistix for under $100). And I won't even get into the PSU/Case/motherboard choices.
Buried for inaccuracy, you can build a much better PC for cheaper. But at least it's still loads cheaper than a pre-built Dell piece of *****. - borninda818, on 10/11/2007, -1/+39it was a poor choice. Ge the next step down for half the money and overclock it 400 mhz with almost no change in temperature. I also think the sound card was unnecessary.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115003 - reddfox321, on 10/11/2007, -7/+44Get a mac and get cornered into the same hardware configuration forever...
Oh wait, I forgot you can put more RAM in, right? *chuckles* - toppgun, on 10/11/2007, -1/+31the e6600 is the way to go. best bang for the buck.
borninda818: thats the same cpu I have and I love it. rock on. - Daniel591992, on 10/11/2007, -1/+26yeah...cause we all know how cheap Macs are...
- NadeChaser, on 10/11/2007, -1/+23@keyboardduder
I tend to disagree, my experiences with Logitech's products place them significantly above industry average. Sure, you can buy better, but their products don't "suck." - desistere, on 10/11/2007, -5/+24Sweet. Now all I have to do to save money is save $1866.
- zdiggler, on 10/11/2007, -2/+20I built a 5600+ AMD on Asus MB with 2 gig of ram with 7900GT for ~500 bucks. and run all game so far with everything maxed out without loosening FPS.
- geekee, on 10/11/2007, -0/+17That's actually not true. There usually is a sweet spot in the price/performance curve for processors, and price/size for memory and hard drives that is not the slowest/smallest. There's a certain amount of overhead you need to pay for a component that is non-zero even if the component has zero performance/size.
- NadeChaser, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18Agreed, almost every item on that list was a poor choice for a budget PC. You can build a computer with similar specs for a little over half that price. And if you were intent on laying down $1800, a little shopping around would get your hands on an amazing system. I wish I had that much to spend...
- gorac369, on 10/11/2007, -0/+14you think $300 for that video card is bad, they selected a $60 dvd-rw with light scribe. The last optical drive i bought also had light scribe and it was half the price. How bout that for bang for the buck. Also $1800 isnt a bang for the buck its more of a mid range game rig if anything.
- swordedge, on 10/11/2007, -0/+14Lets see, newegg
E6300 1.86GHz $164
E6320 1.86GHz $165.50 get this over last, 4M L2 cache vs 2M L2 cache for a buck and a half
E6420 2.17GHz $186 A buck cheaper then the 00 model that has only 2M L2 cache
E6600 2.40GHz $223.90
E6700 2.66GHz $317
You guys have a point on the $90. And for most of us, we'd be hard pressed to notice any real speed difference. I would, however, spend the buck fifty if I were doing that sight budget PC as it uses the E6300.
As for what constitutes bang for the buck; that depends on the person doing the spending. Me, I am seriously thinking about replacing an Athlon 2200+ 333 FSB, 133 memory bus with E6420 and 2G of 6400 ram - arbulus, on 10/11/2007, -3/+17I'm a mac user, but I have to say parent's comment here is unnecessary.
Wrong place man. Just makes you look like a troll. - slythfox, on 10/11/2007, -4/+17How is that the E6700 the best "bang for your buck." I think it's a poor choice, too.
Imo, I think the AMD x2 3600+ (65nm core) processor has the best performance/price ratio... given also that it overclocks nicely. - Genma, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13with picks like that these people have no business telling anyone what to buy. there's no bigger bang than the e6420, or the e6600 if you got an extra $30 for the higher multiplier. hyperX is another horrible pick if you want to stretch your money, there are so many other choices with better timings and ICs for the same price; Crucial, Corsair, G-Skill, OCZ, Patriot, etc. all 800mhz c4 for $130 or less. $20 extra for the Sony burner at the same specs of everyone else without LS is also questionable. if I didn't have adblock I'm guessing I would see Intel, Kingston, and Sony ads everywhere.
- vince916, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13I agree completely. After taxes it'll be over $2000.
- postal21, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13Good read, I need to replace this 3700AMD soon... next gen gaming kicks my non dual-core ass.
- drummer1189, on 10/11/2007, -3/+14what a nerd :)
- toppgun, on 10/11/2007, -8/+19why the hell would he use vista? I cannot even get my games to play on it and had to go back to xp.
worst. driver. support. ever. - shadowmoose, on 10/11/2007, -6/+18Bang for buck? That comps fricken expensive as hell. Vista? wtf to this article.
- Snarfy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10
Here's a good one:
http://arstechnica.com/guides/buyer/guide-200706.ars/2
"Total price: $741.99, not including shipping and handling (6/10/2007, no OS)" - sam991, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10$3,500 a year? Care to qualify that?
Let's say at worst $400 of upgrades/year, an AVG license and a few other licenses, $100. How you get $3,500 a year boggles the mind. - joemommasfat, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10he's right.
I got a 433mhz, 128MB sittin around here that I'll let anyone have for free if they want it.
That's a bang/buck ratio of infinity!!!! - devindotcom, on 10/11/2007, -3/+12loosening? >:(?
- zdiggler, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9Wow, Actual PC related story on front page of Digg.
- EmperorAwesome, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11No seriously, I'm speaking from experience. A single 7900GT will drop below 30 fps when you're fighting a few monsters in oblivion with all the settings cranked up, it's particularly bad if there're some magic effects.
- spudnic, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9What sort of frame rates do you get in F.E.A.R or Oblivion on your mac?
Yeah, that's what I thought. - Homunculiheaded, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8I built a very similar system for about the same price, yes it doesn't run oblivion perfect, but it runs it pretty damn well, and it isn't worth $1000+ to get oblivion to run smoothly (on a 'bang for your buck' system at least). I have no problem with people who want a top of line system but the 8800GTX is simply not in the bang-for-buck price range (neither is the cpu they mention). I can run every game out there very well, and my system cost over a thousand dollars less than this one.The 'bang-for-your-buck' system should cost less than 1k.
- aaronm67, on 10/11/2007, -3/+10Why the hell would you dump Windows and get a better video card? This is a site catered toward gamers, which means the only reason they want a nice video card would be to play games, which (for the most part) neither OSX or Linux run.
- brianbennett, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7eBay and Newegg... that's how I get cool toys on the cheap.
- Zarxrax, on 10/11/2007, -4/+11Assuming anyone actually pays for windows?
- zdiggler, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7ASUS M2N SLI Deluex
EVGA 7900GT
Some cheap memeory.
5600+
Some cheap case with 500W PSU.
Went back to NewEgg and damn,, I could have gotten them for much cheaper today! - Joga5000, on 10/11/2007, -4/+11I just installed Vista on my gaming rig, and from my personal experience the performance hit is minimal. With my x1800xt and the latest Catalyst 7.5 drivers, my 3DMark06 score dropped a whole 100 points (4971 instead of 5074, oh noez!!!) and my average in the FEAR benchmark (max settings @ 1680x1050) dropped from 48 to 47. A little speed bump to my GPU core put me back up to XP-level performance. Other than that I haven't had any problems with stability or getting my games to run.
There were problems early on, but the drivers have improved dramatically in recent months (at least for ATI, I don't know what the situation is with Nvidia). If I were building a machine like the one in the article, I'd put Vista on it. DX10 games are beginning to trickle out (Company of Heroes DX10 patch was recently released), so you might as well put Vista on it to take full advantage of that 8800. :) - zdiggler, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8You build system and don't know how to keep your system away from virus so you went and got a mac. You must not be in it for hobby, go play with yoru mac.
- spudnic, on 10/11/2007, -6/+12@netdawg
So he meant to say 'for what worth belonging to it' rather than 'for what it is worth'?
Yeah. Because that makes perfect sense. - NadeChaser, on 10/11/2007, -3/+9That is well out of my budget... so I fail to see how it can fall into the "best bang for your buck" category.
- blacktaco, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6I just built a PC and while I agree with some, [I have the monitor, hdd and video card] I can't agree with much else.
The E6420 with a better cooler would be a better choice. Also, that Kingston RAM is way overpriced; try geil or gskill imo. The Seagate I agree with [but wish I would have been able to afford more capacity]. The motherboard I can't agree with with but honestly thats personal preference, I prefer ASUS or abit and wont buy anything else. Oh and the case, Antec? srsly? Ever heard of Lian-Li? ok ok brand loyal I guess... - cecil_t, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Yeah, exactly, I skimmed the article down to the component list and then said "***** that" - I can build a very competitive machine to that for way less than $1800. It's the little things that add up - why would you spend $300 on a video card or $315 for a monitor or $40 for a mouse or $60 for an optical drive or $109 for a case for a "bang for your buck PC" - those prices are all at least double what I would consider "bang for my buck". Oh yeah, and ready boost is useless. You want bang for your buck don't even build an ATX size machine - go microATX and spend $45 on a motherboard that performs the same as the $175 one. It's not like they were doing RAID or anything.
Also, one-page print version:
http://www.extremetech.com/print_article2/0,1217,a=209399,00.asp
Please don't link to the paged version of extremetech articles, print version on one page is much nicer. - spudnic, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6"That's actually not true. There usually is a sweet spot in the price/performance curve for processors....etc"
Not to mention the fact that if you're planning on gaming with it, as this article clearly states, then you certainly wont get the best bang for buck with the cheapest crap you can find, because it wouldn't play games at all. Hence no bang. - TehSwat, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Since when is 1800$ USD cheap? Holy *****.
- encognito, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5@ gorac369 & zdiggler
FTA: “This 18x monster from Sony doesn't include LightScribe,…” So, they spent $58 bucks and it doesn’t have LightScribe? LOL! You can get the Sony 7170 with the same specs for half the money! Or better yet maybe LiteOn.
@ cecil
RTA. The $109 dollar case comes with a 500W PSU. That’s like $30 bucks for a case and $80 bucks for a PSU. If that isn’t bang for the buck, then what is? - selrahc, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Actually, I wouldn't say that bang for the buck implies the absolute cheapest equipment you can buy. $1800 is still a good price if everything else cost $3000 or so for similar performance(disclaimer: I don't know much about these computer parts and whether or not they really are a good deal.)
I know people hate car analogies, but the Corvette is a good example of bang for the buck. It is by no means a cheap car, but it offers performance similar to cars that cost 2 or 3 times as much. - Anthracene, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6Make sure you have a quality mobo. With all the varieties out there, it can be difficult to decide....CPU's are fairly simple to pick: faster, bigger cache-usually better. There are not as many indepth reviews on mobo's as other parts as well.
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