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- ochito, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24Blu Ray and HD DVD BOTH use blue lasers. The difference is in the way the discs are manufactured, with HD-DVD being the most similar to DVDs and CDs, with the reflective layer on top, and Blu-Ray having the reflective layer sandwiched between two polycarbonate layers. This difference is what makes Blu-Ray more expensive since all factories have to basically start from zero.
A little googling goes a long way. You should take the time to look it up before posting. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22I was hoping for something like this. Good on Samsung and Toshiba.
- Pther, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17True; but then again, does that really matter? I know that since i got a hybrid dvd+/-rw drive, i stopped caring about the media i use. Let the industries fight over their standards, but with a hybrid plauer the consumer always wins.
- jmz635, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15I thought there was some licensing issue which stopped them making a dual player. Maybe they've settled their differences and realised they need to play nice, or they will both die?
- dobesov, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Both formats user a blue laser if i remember correctly...
- somesthetic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14thats not ending the format war any more than buying two seperate players is ending the format war.
its just more convenient. - Aidenag, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15this makes me happy.... though ill admit i was lookin forward to sony takin in the rear again like with beta.. man those were funny days.
- apoc06, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11from the article, it just says that the companies want to release a hybrid player. doesnt say anywhere that there are definite plans to do so. The article doesnt even have a source.
I think that more telling is the fact that sony has created a partnership with NEC, but samsung has only announced plans to create a hybrid player. They can announce all they want, but since that goes against the terms of their licensing agreement, thats just begging for a lawsuit.
The sony/nec partnership is quite vague. The linked blog source lists the creation of sony nec optiarc as a way for sony to create hd-dvd drives, but thats speculation. The article is dated feb 2006, well before the final breakdown in talks of merging the two disc technologies.
It would save consumers a big headache to have a hybrid drive, but since when have the big companies ever cared to save joe q. public a headache? Nothing has become of this merger just yet, so I dont expect anything to come from it in the future either. - MJBurnsy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Wait wait wait. Did anyone read this post before digging? THERE IS NO SOURCE! Just another random post at another random blog.
In fact, that second random blog indicates "under the licensing agreement for Blu-ray, partners aren't allowed to dabble in HD-DVD" meaning there cannot be a hybrid player anytime soon.
We would all love this but bury this story as inaccurate soon before more people jump on this.
NO DIGG - Inaccurate - chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10CAUTION!!!!
THIS PLAYER IS LARGER THAN MOST JAPANESE PEOPLE, USE EXTREME CAUTION WHILE MOVING!!!! - kratos, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Where is the proof?
- thewebguy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8this doesn't end any format war, it just means consumers will not be voting.
vote no to both formats -- don't buy anything blu-ray or hd-dvd. - Ezekiel2517, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Yeah, if this is true, it means that might actually be learning from it's mistakes (Beta, Mini-disc, UMD, maybe more I don't know about).
I think this would be the best thing to happen in this war so far, though, at least from a consumer standpoint. - Anomaly427, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9LOSE dammit, not LOOSE... ngaaaaaargh!.
/ No digg due to world's easiest to spot spelling mistake in summary.
// OK, maybe "teh" is easier to spot.
/// But then again, "teh" is a typo, the lose/loose thing is just poor spelling. - dmron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I fail to see how this ends the format war. I hope both formats die miserable deaths. Toshiba and Sony deserve such fate for failing to agree upon a standard. Death to both.
- ViperDaimao, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Of course the big question is how much more will this cost than just a single bluray or HD-DVD player.
- wired4u, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Is hell frozen over?
- lifeimages, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Sony did not lose with Beta. We did. Every news station had to use Beta for broadcast quality video the whole time we suffered with VHS. With every Beta Cam sold, Sony, I am sure, sold a nice editing system along with it. That is a monopoly most companies can only dream of.
- Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8This is very good news!! If I can in the future put either a Blu-Ray or HD dvd disk in computer and not worry will it work or not. The computer figures out what to to and does it then great, absolutely great!
- Jeebugorn, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8memory stick, ATRAC
- Dannychico, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5This is story is a complete fallacy. There will be no hybrid player. There are no sources - just an endless stream of linking blogs.
- MatttK, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I don't get why they throw the Nintendo comment in at the end of the article. Everybody already owns 6 DVD players, so DVD should be no concern for console purchasing. Wii is a gaming system, not an entertainment centre. Why can't people accept this? Seriously, between my roommates and I, there are seven or eight DVD-playing devices in the house.
- keviniskool, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Now I can spend $2,000 on one worthless player instead of $2,000 on TWO worthless players.
- forumreader, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This is tougher to pin down since Bluray's machines cost so much more at the moment. I would probably be willing to pay $500 for one, but the prices are going to have to come down quite a bit to make this happen.
- Seidoger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Betacam was good, but wasn't licensed.. That's why it failed. Not the case with Blu-Ray
And as someone mentioned, broadcasters used (and still use) [newer] numeric versions of Betacam as far as i know.
MiniDisc worked well in Japan no? Their true failure was Atrac-3 if you ask me. They have a very good chance of winning with Blue-Ray. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This story is inaccurate, Toshiba and Samsung do have a partnership, but it is not for the purpose of releasing a hybrid player.
- RuBot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Any confirmations? It was only yesterday Toshiba's head talked about spec unification between HD-DVD & BR.
It may be inaccurate folks. There's no report on any of the respected tech journals. I think the blogger was interpolating things. - tolkan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Okay, two readers on the same unit; The next war: Who's on top?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4whats this supposed to mean? hmmmm
"Interestingly, it appears that Samsung is calling Sony's bluff - under the licensing agreement for Blu-ray, parters aren't allowed to dabble in HD-DVD. It seems that Samsung is testing whether Sony will really push that." - MJBurnsy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5NOT TRUE
check out: http://digg.com/tech_news/Samsung_-_No_plans_to_release_HD_DVD_and_Blu-ray_player/who - Jeebugorn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@pther
i agreed completely. i dont care which format wins...or if they both stay. if i have a hybrid drive that can play both....i dont care if i'm watching something from Blu-Ray Group on BR or something from the HD-DVD consortium on hd-dvd. both will play, both discs will cost about the same. so long as both will play on one drive...i say both formats can stay. - Dannychico, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3They actually already picked Blu-Ray - at least the largest distribution/production company did.
- pabster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3My sentiments exactly.
Choosing one or the other of these flawed DRM-laden formats equals the further demise of Fair Use.
Boycott them both and encourage others to do the same. - conigs, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/06/22/hybrid_hd_player_from_samsung_and_toshiba/
http://tomshardware.co.uk/2006/06/21/samsung_dual_format_hd_player/
Both linked to in the article.
http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/02/27/sony_hddvd/
A bit more open to interpretation, but also points this direction.
...just sayin. - jordan1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4no digg, false story
- ToRoE, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I say, rumors and bunk. This story (after 3 links) quotes a middle manager as the source, who has already been slapped-up-side-the-head for talking out of turn...
Great idea, but I doubt this particular story, which is contently written on c grade sites loaded with ad's and blurry corporate logos... - jmz635, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Are the pigs flying?
- NSMike, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Um... Since most HD-DVD/Blu-Ray players play DVDs as well, I would think this problem was solved long ago.
- jedi0utkast, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This does not make sense.
Why would Sony release a hybrid player?
this sounds like some made up story on my book. - r3zonance, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2As in one reads at the front of the drive, the other at the back. I assume that is what is meant by "side", rather than top/bottom.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"not really, this way you buy a hybrid drive at a higher price, you fret over which media to buy, and you still don't know if when your hybrid drive breaks will you be able to replace it or be left in the dust."
What? A hybrid drive eliminates all the issues about which format to use. There will always be multi-format drives. You don't have to worry about the industry suddenly stopping production. Heck, Sony still made beta players after DVD took over. - recon16, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2THIS IS NOT FALSE LOOK AT THIS STORY BY REUTERS!
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=technologyNews&storyID=2006-06-27T153058Z_01_T85076_RTRUKOC_0_US-JAPAN-TOSHIBA.xml&archived=False - rastan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This is FALSE, all the sources mentioned are just speculation and Samsung PR flatly denied it:
http://digg.com/tech_news/Samsung_-_No_plans_to_release_HD_DVD_and_Blu-ray_player/who
Mark as inaccurate, and check your ***** facts next time recon16 - acurism, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3This story is false...read the following...
http://www.cepro.com/news/editorial/13850.html
It looks to me that Toshiba is getting a little scared they will lose as well as they should. Blue Ray is the superior product. - rileyjt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm with you - paying even MORE for a player that plays both standards because the industry couldn't decide on one doesn't sound like much of a bargain to me.
- glc17, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Se really can't tell who will win until the porn industry decides on the format they prefer.
- dlawrence, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This is good... I refuse to buy a player that may be obsolete in a couple of years. When will companies realize that format wars are bad?
- XSforMe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Are pigs flying?"
They have been doing it for quite a while now:
http://bps.fika.org/Animals.html
=) - tboutcher, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3will is cost $2000?
- nicepants, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Doesn't this seem kind of backwards? It would have made much more sense to just pick one format and stick with it. Instead they're going to release the equivalent of a VCR that also uses Betamax.
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