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- Rev0lver, on 03/19/2009, -3/+21And totally not worth it. A core 2 Quad, 4GB RAM, and a 4870 will hold you over for a VERY good while right now, and at a fraction of the price, too.
- richi1173, on 03/19/2009, -2/+143265 dollars!!!
No thanks, I'll make it myself for about half the price with keyboard, mouse and an LCD monitor included. - Fire4Effect, on 03/19/2009, -0/+12Can run Crysis at a solid 65 fps (on medium settings)
- Ricochetbiscuit, on 03/19/2009, -4/+15You folks crack me up. First, how is a full system evaluation, benchmark test and review an advertisement?
Secondly, you're all pissing and moaning about the price but you totally missed a couple of major points of the system.
FTA: "That said, one of the major points to consider is, for its $3265 price tag (after current discounts), do you get what you pay for? We'd offer a "yes", but with a few major caveats, depending on your own personal needs. First, you need to take significant stock in the fact that you're buying a heavily overclocked system with a full 3 year parts and labor warranty. From this perspective, you're getting a processor clock speed and setup that actually handily outperforms Intel's fastest Core i7 Extreme 965 chip, which alone would set you back $1000 if you bought it retail yourself. And our system was very stable under our barrage of benchmark testing. Then, factor in Digital Storm's policy for lifetime labor charge free upgrades of components, for what appears to be very competitive prices on the company's web site. From these two perspectives alone, the value profile of the product we tested improves significantly..."
People, this system comes with a 3.8GHz factory overclock Core i7 that INCLUDES a 3 year warranty. True, you could do it yourself perhaps but you'd get zero warranty from any manufacturer in that scenario. A lot of component manufacturers don't even offer 3 years for the individual components, much less an entire overclocked system.
So, take that component list that some of you are calculating at $2K+ or so and tack on another $700 or so for a Core i7 Extreme 965 and then you're still running stock at 3.2GHz with a 1 year component warranty.
It all depends on your priorities... These sorts of systems aren't what the hardcore DYI crowd buys, plain and simple, so no need to judge it from that perspective. - inactive, on 03/19/2009, -0/+10Cooler Master V8. It's mentioned in there.
- Fire4Effect, on 03/19/2009, -1/+11Nice but $ 3,265.00? Unless I have the sudden urge to try and replicate the movie "Up" I'll stick to newegg.
- sildude, on 03/19/2009, -0/+9Yea but how many times? 3 and counting here.
- Lewie, on 03/19/2009, -0/+6Good thing I spent my youth playing with legos.
- inactive, on 03/19/2009, -0/+6Yes, with those awesome Phenom II triple channel boards. /s
- jasmus, on 03/19/2009, -3/+8Advertising much?
- lazyslacker, on 03/19/2009, -1/+6Whoa over $3,000? Somebody didn't shop around. I know this sounds like bragging but the fact is I myself built a i7 system over a month ago for about $1200. i7 can be had for this price, people.
I used the cheapest motherboard I could find, the Gigabyte EX58-UD3R. I got an Antec 300 case, 650W Antec PSU, G.Skill RAM, Radeon 4870 1GB, used an existing DVD-RW, mouse, and keyboard. Hard drive is a Velociraptor. I was able to cut corners by not buying the best brands and models but my system performs just as well or better than that $3,000 thing. I got everything from newegg, I literally waited for a combo deal for nearly every part I bought. I think the only thing I couldn't get a combo for was the RAM. Saved considerable money. $100 alone on the combo of the case + PSU. It's possible to get a reasonably price i7 system, you just have to be patient and look for the best deals. - Duggan360, on 03/19/2009, -2/+7Hmmmm, Nice rig, Wouldn't pay that much for it, Only has one GTX, should get three for that price!
- DamienHellion, on 03/19/2009, -1/+5you guys realize you just dugg an advertisement. this is going to be horrible if ad/articles like this start getting to the front page.
- TransmitThis, on 03/19/2009, -0/+4Fact - You are forced to ship the whole thing back when anything goes wrong, at your expense, imagine how that adds up
Fact - You are forced to use their store if you want to upgrade, and if you think that they will be good value think again, "competitive to online shops" is advertising speak for more expensive.
You may be Reading the article, but unfortunately you are believing everything it says like some naive fanboy, I suggest you READ between the lines and see what they are actually selling, before you attempt to shoot holes in my understanding. Get yourself one of these machines before you speak. - phrenzy, on 03/19/2009, -1/+5Funny how many people that are digging up this $3000+ machine and posting "I came" are probably the same people who chime in to bash Apple as being "overpriced hipster toys" or whatever. Not that I'm bashing somebody for not wanting to build their own machine. They might have better things to do, like get laid.
- Heywoodj, on 03/19/2009, -0/+4@alls Expensive Lego's! Best computer building analogy ever...and true.
- dafragsta, on 03/19/2009, -0/+4They fixed the problem. None of the new drives have that issue.
- inactive, on 03/19/2009, -1/+5Not an esoteric overclock these days. A 1 ghz overclock is par for the course of any current intel on a good board with a good air cooler.
- nmanguy, on 03/19/2009, -1/+5Instead of spending $3000, I'd rather build a Core 2 Quad box for only $450 and then throw in that $300 card for a badass $700 PC. At the moment, i7 is no where near as big of a leap as the C2D/P4 leap was, so if I can build a $500 c2 machine or a $800 i7 machine, that 5% boost won't tempt me so much.
- Macintoshreader, on 03/19/2009, -0/+4The high-end Mac Pro costs $3299 and has 2x Intel Xeon Nehalem @2.26GHz with 16MB of Shared L3 Cache and it has a motherboard that supports 32GB of RAM. That alone makes it a lot better for both things you mentioned.
- Bendur, on 03/19/2009, -2/+5Or you could build the exact same system yourself for $2100...
- TransmitThis, on 03/19/2009, -1/+4They require You to pay the shipping each time this goes in for repair Seriously?
Way overpriced, and also impossible to upgrade without ruining the their warranty, Get back to me on how good it is when your still using it in 3y time.
If anything goes wrong with my selfbuilt system, I just whip out the component and rma it for a replacement, hell even the case fans have a standard 6y warranty - N0DIGGITY, on 03/19/2009, -0/+3Yeah with only one GTX285 it wouldn't even be considered high-end in some circles. My GTX295 is almost twice as fast.
- Vafthrutnir, on 03/19/2009, -2/+5All of that for $3k...what a rip off.
- dougfnny24, on 03/19/2009, -0/+3You don't get a warranty like this anywhere else on an factory overclocked PC to make things plain and simple.
- 3nder99, on 03/19/2009, -0/+3@michael
The thing with AMD though is, I can upgrade my m2n32 from 2+ years ago with a Phenom II AM2+ cpu.
I don't have to buy a new motherboard. Backwards compatibility is great. I hope they continue the trend when move on past the AM3 boards. - DarkShroud, on 03/19/2009, -0/+3Sometimes you only need one if the card has 2 processors like the x4870 (2).
- atm259, on 03/19/2009, -1/+4Well I'm a guy, so once
- DarkShroud, on 03/19/2009, -0/+3I dug you up since I'm doing the same soon myself. There are very cheap i7 boards that perform well. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
OCZ also has some good i7 memory kits for buying in bulk for these systems. - Allstarn08, on 03/19/2009, -2/+4This is ridiculously overpriced. You could build this yourself for maybe $1500, but without the 1.5 terabyte of coarse, but who will ever use that much? Computers arent as hard to build as most people think, and computer companies take advantage of that. All computers are is expensive Lego's, it's all popping things into their slots.
- inactive, on 03/19/2009, -1/+3Because there is no performance difference between an overclocked 920 and a 965, it's just a retard test. They hit the same ceiling on any rig that's not just for benchmarking. Unless you're trying to break a 3Dmark record (in which case you're going to use the hardware for about 15 minutes before literally trashing it) there's no functional difference between a 920 and an Extreme.
If you're actually being either of those processors, you should be well versed in overclocking. If you're not, you should spend some time becoming well versed in overclocking. Otherwise you're just an idiot who spends 700 dollars to get a clock speed that can be accomplished with literally no effort at all. Change a value in BIOS, restart. - inactive, on 03/19/2009, -0/+2@ TheThirdLevel
Yes, that's correct, but it's stunningly unnecessary under normal circumstances. Unlocked multiplier doesn't do anything special until you're dealing with dry ice. Everything else can be accomplished through BCLK manipulation in short order. May take a little longer, but then again it costs 700 bucks less.
@ dougfnny
That's really it, doug, you don't get much with the unlocked multiplier, I wouldn't say I don't want it, but it offers NO practical disadvantage. The main difference you're going to encounter is chip to chip what the thermals look like. 920s REGULARLY outclock 965s because sometimes a guy gets a good 920 and a ***** 965. - DforSpiD, on 03/19/2009, -3/+5Believe it or not, there are people who want to play games without building their own computer, many of these people are willing to pay a premium for a gaming system ready built...
Are you ***** stupid? - inactive, on 03/19/2009, -1/+3The 1.5TG Seagate 7200.11 is the Achilles heel on this
- dougfnny24, on 03/19/2009, -0/+2Atleast for the people who don't feel like tampering with anything other than the multiplier. Which is what I would rather stick with, But there marketing strategy is BASICALLY to make $600 extra by making the box black and adding "extreme" to the name.
- grantmoore3d, on 03/19/2009, -1/+3I own an i7 rig (built it myself of course for MUCH cheaper than what they have listed)... but for gameing. Seriously, don't waste your money. This processor is only worth it for video editing or 3D rendering.
- mirunit, on 03/19/2009, -0/+2$3650 and only 1 GTX 285, I was seriously laughing. Not even a 295, seriously?
- Darksoul, on 03/23/2009, -0/+1What is it with you, are you just uninformed or just stupid. Stop spouting ***** like you have the knowledge because you don't. Again my ***** Sapphire 4850 1GIG runs my 24 inch at 1920x1200 with no ***** problem and what kind of ***** board did you buy moron a crossfire board? then no ***** and you have a Q9550 and you can't run a 24" monitor? wtf.?
The 285 can easily run anything on a 24 inch monitor and please don't even mutter the words crysis to me the ***** game sucks period. - phrenzy, on 03/19/2009, -0/+1http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/fam ...
Again, not being a fanboy - but to talk about this as if the systems ARE comparable and at similar price points. - Ricochetbiscuit, on 03/19/2009, -1/+2How the hell is this an advertisement??? It's a damn system review from an independent site. Sheesh.. get a life. If you don't like something, don't digg it but for god sakes, please don't whine.
- inactive, on 03/19/2009, -1/+2I thought "lol gaming rig yea right" then saw factory overclocked a whole gigahert(z?). Holy ***** wow.
- Awezing, on 03/19/2009, -0/+1Or the GTX 295.
Or the 9800 GX2. - TheThirdLevel, on 03/19/2009, -1/+2965 has an unlocked multiplier for the lazy ***** like me.
- Darksoul, on 03/23/2009, -0/+1Give me a break, $3,000?
Seriously that is way way to much money unless your rich and just don't care how much you spend then more power to you but for three grand I could build something far more better and for alot less money. - N0DIGGITY, on 03/19/2009, -0/+1Good thing you didn't have a 680i though, it didn't support 45nm Quad cores, so I was screwed out of an upgrade path. AMD processors are generally better supported by a range of chipsets. Pretty much any AM2 motherboard will support any recent AMD processor whereas older socket 775 motherboards will likely not support the new processors.
- Ricochetbiscuit, on 03/19/2009, -0/+1Correction on the acronym there... "DIY" crowd... as in do-it-yourself... which you couldn't and still have a 3 year warranty.
- inactive, on 03/19/2009, -0/+1And the thing about intel is I can upgrade my P35 board from 18 months ago with a Core2Quad cpu.
I don't have to buy a new motherboard. Backwards compatibility is awesome. And I hope they continue to release socket 775 CPUs for a little longer, despite this socket being several years old.
However I'm also happy that intel also offers even higher end hardware that, while it necessitates a new motherboard, vastly outperforms not just the Core2Quad but also the Phenom II. While they still fully support the older platform.
And that's really it, your argument isn't a feature intel doesn't have, because intel does in fact have a vast array of 775 processors out there to any board released in a reasonable time frame. The only difference is front side bus support, admittedly an AMD advantage but since intel just dropped the FSB, hopefully no longer an issue.
AMD isn't offering anything better than what intel already does. Mind you Phenom II is a great chip, I'm not saying it isn't, but it's not exactly revolutionary. It's AMD playing catch up, plain and simple. Thankfully, however, it's competitive. - N0DIGGITY, on 03/19/2009, -0/+1Companies charge quite a bit extra for high end systems just because there really isn't much alternative except to build your own (which I did as well) That is certainly cheaper, but the average person wouldn't know where to start.
- mathcreative, on 03/19/2009, -2/+3Is this an advertisement?
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