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- jandsroberts, on 10/12/2007, -5/+82I doubt Al Gore is able to truly love a PC (since he's on Apple's board of directors).
- JK1150, on 10/12/2007, -16/+56His house will have more than enough electricity to run it.
- nixonrichard, on 10/12/2007, -5/+44As an alternative to this entire article, you can just buy a laptop and put it on your desk.
- Flump5000, on 10/12/2007, -9/+35well have you ever considered that all that power was used to run whale-saving machines?
- JorgeGonzalez, on 10/12/2007, -16/+30WTF do you expect him to do, swim across the Atlantic to give his presentations in Europe? Gore doesn't want everyone to live in paper shacks eating leaves, just be a bit more conservative and to try and convince the world's biggest polluters to make changes.
Christ, you guys are hating solely to hate. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -9/+22who the hell cares what al gore thinks about ?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+19He'll just claim that he invented the PC.
- kylesellers, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Nah, he would actually buy the biggest, most powerful, most energy demanding PC ever made and then buy "Computing Offsets" from Windows ME users.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14Al Gore wouldn't care. To him, it is OK to use lots and lots of energy as long as he is rich enough to donate to causes.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Try 20X. And the criticism comes from the hytpocrisy over what his entire life has been dedicated to the last 2 years.
And that 20X is NOT for travelling. That is how much more energy his HOUSE uses than an Average Americans. IF you facotr in the private jets, he uses FAR more than 20X.
You can just come up with your own GUESSES as to how much he uses, but that doesn't make it fact.
He can easily fly commerical if he cared.
But he doesn't. He blantantly revealed himself to be a hypocrite by saying that it is OK to use so much because he gives so much money to environmental concerns.
Wouldn't it make more sense to donate that money AND use less energy himself? - pabster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Quit with your pesky little facts.
Next you will tell us Gore is an oil man!
(Hint: Occidental Petroleum) - pabster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9@myko
Trying to apologize for the hypocrite makes you one too.
FACT: Al Gore consumed over 221,000 kWh of electricity last year. FACT: Average American home consumes roughly 14,000 kWh per year. That is 16X. In my case, he is using about 24X per annum what I do. - banderbe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I'm super serial!!!
- inarguable, on 10/12/2007, -24/+31Yes, and Al Gore has proven himself to be a personal conservationist, hasn't he? Haven't you heard about the electrical bills at his house? It is a great invention for old Al to preach to us about, but it is too eco-friendly a concept for his personal use.
- banderbe, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12Algore is a hypocritical piece of ***** and no amount of "carbon credits" or sorry excuses by weak ass liberals will change that.
- Fhionnlaoch, on 10/12/2007, -7/+14"WTF do you expect him to do, swim across the Atlantic to give his presentations in Europe?"
He could at least go commercial instead of using a private jet.
It's kind of like John Travolta who's on some environmental committee, but he flies around in his own Boeing 707. He's even had an airstrip installed at his houses so he doesn't have to sully himself by having to drive between the airport and his home. - HarryBauzonia, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10He purchases carbon offsets from his OWN company. He burns massive amounts of coal for electricity then pays himself for "offsets". Basically he burning coal that others did not.
Does that fact set you straight?
Do a little research on what kind of phoniness "carbon offsets" are before you reply. - NanoStuff, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Incorrect. Al Gore would love for others to use that PC. He himself would love some R600 CrossFire.
- OriginalLucid1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Al Gore "took the initiative in creating the internet". Not the same as inventing it, but still a lie.
- VhaidraU, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13No Al Gore would use something that used 20x more power than the usual computer and then he would justify it by his "more important than us" work and double justify it by buying so-called "carbon credits" from his own company that he founded and chairs that allow one to feel good about polluting.
- skyfire1, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Does this mean I won't have to be afraid of manbearpig?
- jhaven, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8@Cam_86:
Apple's eco-friendliness really depends on who you ask.
The EPA rates Apple notebooks as the most environmentally friendly[1], while Greenpeace rates Apple as the 4th worst "Eco-Friendly Tech Business"[2].
[1] - http://tinyurl.com/ydrb4s
[2] - http://tinyurl.com/26w79g - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Gore apologists, shut up. Just how many houses does the ***** own? How often does he fly in private jets vs. commercial? The fact that he didn't have solar panels on the rooftops of his house from the moment he "discovered" that we had 10 years or whatever it was to fix this Earth just goes to show you how concerned he is of this supposed coming catastrophe. The USA Today editorial I posted here earlier said it all.
So what if he doesn't use as much as other celebrities? The fact is that if he's so god damn concerned about this coming global catastrophe he'd be criss crossing the country in a hybrid vehicle or something to give his speech, and he would always fly commercial when going overseas. He'd also try living in a more normal sized home.
I'll probably be dugg down by all the retards who continue to make excuses for that piece of human garbage for posting this. - Darel99, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Al Gore... Why does anyone believe a word this man says?
Our nation should be represented by fair, just and honest leaders. Without a doubt both parities are filled with liars and dishonest leaders Al Gore is now at the front of the so called Green Movement.
People Wake up:
He stated he created the Internet back in 99.
Evidence taken from CNN Late Edition:
GORE: Well, I will be offering -- I'll be offering my vision when my campaign begins. And it will be comprehensive and sweeping. And I hope that it will be compelling enough to draw people toward it. I feel that it will be.
But it will emerge from my dialogue with the American people. I've traveled to every part of this country during the last six years. During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.
How can you trust a man to lead this movement when he is a liar. Oddly he has teamed with Google and for the life of me I can't understand why they would work with a man who lied about a related issue.
Eco computers.... It's all hype. Even the UN's own report states only 6% (ONLY 6%) of the carbon issue is caused by direct human issues.. But they have an answer to fix the problem.... You may ask what it is? Well, guess what they want a Global Tax.
Does any of this make since? I'm not sold and neither are millions and millions of other people. - Cam_86, on 10/12/2007, -7/+12... The man was the vice president of America. Do you really think convincing people to go green with there lifestyles will make him much money, compared to what most OTHER out of office, high ranking officials take on? Christ, most of them get on the board of a think tanks that receive billion dollar grants to piss away, or multi-national companies that have there hands in almost everything from pharmaceuticals to military equipment.
What hes doing is VERY honorable. He really is trying to make a difference, and isn't making nearly as much as he would if he had sold out like his predecessors. - HarryBauzonia, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9He would love it only if it were intended for someone else to use. Mr. Gore has no problem with using gobs of electricity himself.
http://www.tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=367 - OriginalLucid1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7It's so cute how you liberals still believe Al won.
- banderbe, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10Actually Gore uses TWENTY FOUR times more.
Do a little research next time asshat.
And I love how you bitch and whine about U.S. consumption without ONCE mentioning the Gross Domestic Product.
The United States consumes the most because it PRODUCES the most. The countries of this planet should be on their knees daily thanking the United States of America for having such an astonishingly robust and thriving economy. - drizek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Or something absolutely ridiculous, like a more efficient laptop cpu that increases battery life.
- endersadvocate, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6"Some good information there"
your kidding right... this is the worst written ExtremeTech article i have ever read.
They are a tech site.
If they want to show their support for "green" tech.
at least write a valid article that sounds marginally professional
"I used the Logitech MX 3200 Cordless Desktop Laser, which squeezes a little more juice out of AA batteries than previous models did"
Oh.. since disposable batteries are so eco-friendly?
"My reasoning: You can build the greenest PC ever, but if you don't actually use it, you're not helping the environment."
So by using power.. your helping the environment? Come on... if you don't use the pc, your not using power, thus doing more for the environment.
"power-plant depleting DX10 graphics cards"
Sensationalized a tad?
Maybe i am just biased and think that everyone shouldn't be concerned with snipping power consumption here and there and should instead focus on more personal issues like family and friends. - chriskzoo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Does it consume 20X the power of the average PC?
- brd6644, on 09/01/2009, -6/+10So Algore makes $20K/year off a zinc mine on his property.. and this company is doing what exactly?
(thanks for the link above: http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2006-08-09-gore-green_x.htm)
"Gore receives $20,000 a year in royalties from Pasminco Zinc, which operates a zinc concession on his property. Tennessee has cited the company for adding large quantities of barium, iron and zinc to the nearby Caney Fork River."
Barium is POISON.
"All water or acid soluble barium compounds are extremely poisonous. At low doses, barium acts as a muscle stimulant, while higher doses affect the nervous system, causing cardiac irregularities, tremors, weakness, anxiety, dyspnea and paralysis. This may be due to its ability to block potassium ion channels which are critical to the proper function of the nervous system."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barium#Precautions - inarguable, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Bolerobell...You are right. The "Al Gore is a hypocrite" arguments do not lend anything to the general debate. Of course, if you read the headline of the article being commented on, you will see that the story being 'debated' here is not a generalized one, but rather one that was put on the topic of Al Gore by the original submitter himself - rather blatantly I might add.
I would submit to you that it is poor debating technique to attempt to generalize an argument being made about comments that were attributed to an article that - from the very beginning - specifically targeted the debate around a central figure. - camino262, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Didn't Al Gore invent the Internet?
- inarguable, on 10/12/2007, -8/+12JorgeGonzalez - I am FAR from a partisan hack my friend. It is simply called pointing out a blatant hypocritical behaviour, and one that is entirely relevant considering that this man has made himself into the Patron Saint of The Environment and adopted son to Mother Nature. While i agree with you about him needing to use aircraft to travel, he does not need a Gulfstream that costs 50K a transatlantic hop - a bird that creates a MASSIVE personal carbon footprint - when he could be flying 1st Class with any carrier in the world.
As i said earlier, his house is the best and most blatant hypocrisy, particularly after the way he is yipping about all of us plebians should be conserving at home.
Any reasonable person would have trouble factually arguing against the claim that Gore is being grossly hypocritical. If the guy can't even practice what he preaches, how can i trust him? I would say you are the one who is being partisan in their thinking by forgiving him so easily. - inarguable, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8You have to give it to a dude like Ed Begley Junior. Yes, his glasses are geeky and he has that annoying lisp, but the bastard practices what he preaches when it comes to conservation.
- OriginalLucid1, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Postaldave is right. Sure Al buys "carbon credits", whatever the ***** they are. But he buys them from himself! Sweet gig if you can get it. If he truly believed any of the garbage he spreads daily, he would live like Ted Kaczynski, not Ted Kennedy. For christsake, the man is EATING half the worlds resources, not conserving them. It is a very Communist like lifestyle, all for me, none for thee.
- MountAthos, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I am VERY enthusiastic about Al Gore as a presidential candidate.
Anyone see Al Gore's Oscar acceptance speech??
Here is a transcript:
Ladies and Gentlemen! Comrades!
Climate change is a modern-day equivalent of class struggle. Global Warming is an easily understood, historically inevitable concept in Marxist Science designed to help the Party to crush capitalism and fulfill mankind's utmost desire to redistribute wealth and establish a centralized global government with an army of enlightened bureaucrats running a planned global economy based on world-wide quotas and five-year plans.
In the absence of classical Marxist preconditions for the Revolution - global crisis of capitalism combined with massive poverty and despair - Global Warming stands out as the most convenient, non-denominational replacement thereof. It provides both the means to manipulate the masses - and a moral justification for doing so. As such it replaces the previously promising but failed agitprop tools as "Overpopulation," "Ozone Holes," "Global Famine," and "Ice Age 2." Until the time when it gets replaced by another convenient agitprop tool, Global Warming must remain an unquestionable dogma in all political discussions (you shall be notified of changes, if any, by the NPR, the New York Times, and other progressive media organs.)
The importance of Global Warming for the Revolution is too great to leave it in the hands of scientists. The masses must believe that it is beneficial to have faith in Global Warming whether it can be proven or not. If Global Warming didn't exist it would be necessary to invent it.
This, and many other Global Warming trivia you will find in my new book which I will be selling in the lobby right after this speech, so you better start forming a line now. Get used to standing in lines, comrades, because when my plan for the future is implemented, lines and ration coupons will become a national pastime for non-Party members. In an easy, accessible format, my book will explain why, unless you appoint me the next President of Earth, you and your pets will all die a horrible death when this planet blows up.
The book consists of the following chapters:
1. How we're all doomed and the planet is going to blow up.
2. How stopping Wal-Mart can help the polar bears.
3. How higher taxes can help the polar bears.
4. How fairness doctrine can help the polar bears.
5. How higher unemployment is linked to cleaner air quality.
6. How poor impoverished countries like to stay that way.
7. How the printing of Bibles destroys millions of trees every year.
8. How to spot heretic scientists and other Global Warming deniers.
9. How to report Global Warming deniers to the authorities.
10. How greenhouse gases should be renamed so as not to offended the green party activists, people that don't live in houses, and anyone whose last name happens to be Greenhouse. - bagpipegoatee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I'm really sorry about the comment abuse. We need more info about power saving computers, but this guy's math is SERIOUSLY inaccurate, especially with how "normal" power supplies use "all" their rating. That's completely untrue. This guy knows nothing about electricity, and it's teaching people very inaccurate things. If you want more detail, I have a post much lower down. I don't want my misplaced comment taking up all of the space, as it shouldn't be here anyway.
- Muyoso, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4So wait, this PC goes around telling other PC's to stop using so much power, and while it does that it consumes 20x the power of the other PCs???
- Fhionnlaoch, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Lol, a buttler.
- ICSU, on 10/12/2007, -7/+10So how much has he earned from his environmental efforts so far, smart asses?
- crazywarthog, on 10/12/2007, -7/+10Just buy carbon offsets and waste as much energy as you want !
Gore buys his carbon offsets from, Generation Investment Management, is owned by: AL GORE! So he pays himself, interesting. And why do you think he might be touring the country promoting his movie, scaring people about global warming and convincing them to invest in carbon credits? Because he makes money from them! There are billions of dollars to be made off this global warming scam & “Green Al” has positioned himself to be one of the front runners. - kirbs, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6pro tip:
not everybody is selfish and greedy.
i'd trade anything to help other people out, ***** ignorant greed. you have nothing to base your 'its for the money' statements off. When have his actions or words indicated anything of the sort? - saigumi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Dugg down as innacurate.
Al Gore doesn't personally give a crap about ecosystems or saving energy. - aydoubleyou, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4im bad for the ecosystem :'(
- pabster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Nah, Gore would hate this PC. His needs to consume as much energy in 30 days as our PCs do in 12 months.
Perhaps those new solar panels could power the beast, too! - waterdrop, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2And a 2000W PSU to power that beast.
- origclubsoda, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Al Gore loves donkeys
- D3koy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4My Power Supply has 2 fans, a 120mm and a 80mm which run all the time...***** the 80 Plus power supply, I recycle
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